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Sat, 26 October 2013 16:46  |
Dave Motorhome
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I had a transmission cable that would not allow me to engage s or l, so
doing research read and fixed that (thanks!) in doing so, now I can shift
to all gears, BUT the engine wont turn over.. I hear the clicks, all
electrical seems fine.. but nothing.
it started yesterday just fine. so I feel it has to be something I did
today...
which was disconnect the transmission cable on the top and bottom and use
plyers to run through the gears.
things I have done.
Battery all good. ( also tried boost)
disconnected the transmission from the cable made sure it was in neutral
tried in neutral
in searching I came across the ,ignition switch.. is that on the right
track? I read to move it up, not sure I have room to move it..
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p48874-ignition-switch.html
is it the grey or black thing,
thanks in advance,
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75 Glenbrook
Tulsa, OK
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| Re: [GMCnet] fixed stuck transmission cable.. now no start [message #227134 is a reply to message #227128] |
Sat, 26 October 2013 17:45  |
C Boyd
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Sir the grey thing is the ignition switch. The black switch at the bottom is the neutral safety switch. The ignition switch adjusts down for more pull, the neutral switch adjusts sideways. If you have done nothing inside I would think the outside adjustment needs checked. Unhook cable at top and make sure tranny is in park then make sure the transmission lever is all the way in park and see if it will start with cable off. Outside adjustment is on the tranny lever. Loosen bolt and slide on the lever till the cable drops on the column in the Park position then retighten bolt and attach cable.
| Dave Motorhome wrote on Sat, 26 October 2013 17:46 |
I had a transmission cable that would not allow me to engage s or l, so
doing research read and fixed that (thanks!) in doing so, now I can shift
to all gears, BUT the engine wont turn over.. I hear the clicks, all
electrical seems fine.. but nothing.
it started yesterday just fine. so I feel it has to be something I did
today...
which was disconnect the transmission cable on the top and bottom and use
plyers to run through the gears.
things I have done.
Battery all good. ( also tried boost)
disconnected the transmission from the cable made sure it was in neutral
tried in neutral
in searching I came across the ,ignition switch.. is that on the right
track? I read to move it up, not sure I have room to move it..
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p48874-ignition-switch.html
is it the grey or black thing,
thanks in advance,
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David Paliotta
75 Glenbrook
Tulsa, OK
http://75glenbrook.googlepages.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] fixed stuck transmission cable.. now no start [message #227139 is a reply to message #227134] |
Sat, 26 October 2013 19:14 |
Dave Motorhome
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I disconnected the top connection of the cable that goes to the gear
shifter (steering column) and loosened the bottom bracket (adjuster) made
sure the tranny was in park-- furthest position toward the front- put the
gear shifter in park.. nothing.
I am rechecking my ground to the battery, which is new from last year, and
put the coach on a trickle charger to make sure..
I figure I am do for some good luck with my GMC at some point....
thanks for the ideas, if you can think of anything further I am all ears!
David Paliotta
75 Glenbrook
Tulsa, OK
http://75glenbrook.googlepages.com/
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net>wrote:
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> Sir the grey thing is the ignition switch. The black switch at the bottom
> is the neutral safety switch. The ignition switch adjusts down for more
> pull, the neutral switch adjusts sideways. If you have done nothing inside
> I would think the outside adjustment needs checked. Unhook cable at top and
> make sure tranny is in park then make sure the transmission lever is all
> the way in park and see if it will start with cable off. Outside adjustment
> is on the tranny lever. Loosen bolt and slide on the lever till the cable
> drops on the column in the Park position then retighten bolt and attach
> cable.
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> Dave Motorhome wrote on Sat, 26 October 2013 17:46
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| Re: [GMCnet] fixed stuck transmission cable.. now no start [message #227141 is a reply to message #227139] |
Sat, 26 October 2013 19:31 |
A Hamilto
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| Dave Motorhome wrote on Sat, 26 October 2013 19:14 |
I disconnected the top connection of the cable that goes to the gear shifter (steering column) and loosened the bottom bracket (adjuster) made sure the tranny was in park-- furthest position toward the front- put the gear shifter in park.. nothing.
I am rechecking my ground to the battery, which is new from last year, and put the coach on a trickle charger to make sure..
I figure I am do for some good luck with my GMC at some point....
thanks for the ideas, if you can think of anything further I am all ears!
David Paliotta
75 Glenbrook
Tulsa, OK
http://75glenbrook.googlepages.com/
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I was going to say if you heard clicking sounds, the NSSS is not the problem, which means the shifter cable/postion is not the problem.
If the connections to the battery are all good, and the starter is ok, and the solenoid is not messed up, it must be the battery.
The trickle charger might be enough, but if not, you might be due for a new battery.
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| Re: [GMCnet] fixed stuck transmission cable.. now no start [message #227148 is a reply to message #227141] |
Sat, 26 October 2013 20:11 |
Dave Motorhome
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new starter,, actually rebuilt about a year ago.
the radio, lights etc all seem fine, would that discount a bad battery?
the clicking I hear is from the passenger side up by the battery, solenoid
area.
David Paliotta
75 Glenbrook
Tulsa, OK
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:31 PM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:
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> I was going to say if you heard clicking sounds, the NSSS is not the
> problem, which means the shifter cable/postion is not the problem.
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> If the connections to the battery are all good, and the starter is ok, and
> the solenoid is not messed up, it must be the battery.
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> The trickle charger might be enough, but if not, you might be due for a
> new battery.
> --
> '73 23' Sequoia For Sale
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| Re: [GMCnet] fixed stuck transmission cable.. now no start [message #227154 is a reply to message #227139] |
Sat, 26 October 2013 21:26 |
C Boyd
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Sir: the lower black switch has 2 connectors one has 2 larger wires, unplug it and jump these together with a big wire and see if it will start. If not plug it back up and loosen the 2 small screws holding the silver upper ignition switch and slide it down a little, tighten back up and try to start. | Dave Motorhome wrote on Sat, 26 October 2013 20:14 |
I disconnected the top connection of the cable that goes to the gear
shifter (steering column) and loosened the bottom bracket (adjuster) made
sure the tranny was in park-- furthest position toward the front- put the
gear shifter in park.. nothing.
I am rechecking my ground to the battery, which is new from last year, and
put the coach on a trickle charger to make sure..
I figure I am do for some good luck with my GMC at some point....
thanks for the ideas, if you can think of anything further I am all ears!
David Paliotta
75 Glenbrook
Tulsa, OK
http://75glenbrook.googlepages.com/
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net>wrote:
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> Sir the grey thing is the ignition switch. The black switch at the bottom
> is the neutral safety switch. The ignition switch adjusts down for more
> pull, the neutral switch adjusts sideways. If you have done nothing inside
> I would think the outside adjustment needs checked. Unhook cable at top and
> make sure tranny is in park then make sure the transmission lever is all
> the way in park and see if it will start with cable off. Outside adjustment
> is on the tranny lever. Loosen bolt and slide on the lever till the cable
> drops on the column in the Park position then retighten bolt and attach
> cable.
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> Dave Motorhome wrote on Sat, 26 October 2013 17:46
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| Re: [GMCnet] fixed stuck transmission cable.. now no start [message #227156 is a reply to message #227148] |
Sat, 26 October 2013 21:57 |
George B.
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In checking battery cable connections do not skip over the other end of the cables, that is the (-) connection on the engine block and the (+) on the starter and any connections in between. If you have a heavy duty battery jumper cable you can try connecting it from the battery (-) to the engine block any try starting. If the starter runs then you have a bad ground cable or connection.
George Butts
Las Vegas Nevada
73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven
71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
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| Re: [GMCnet] fixed stuck transmission cable.. now no start [message #227220 is a reply to message #227183] |
Sun, 27 October 2013 13:57 |
Dave Motorhome
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I am still going through all the emails. so far still no luck,
I have 2 grounds, one to the frame and one to the engine. full size battery
cables I guess 2 or 4 gauge
I moved the starter line to the battery ( I did leave a line to the boost
switch) not sure if I am supposed to.
I did disconnect all grounds and clean with steel wool, honestly they were
all clean copper.
I also wanted to mention I followed the manual yesterday when setting the
shift cable put gear in neutral, then disconnect the adjuster make sure the
tranny is in neutral I did (then pushed the rv to make sure) and then
reconnected the lot..
I also the trickle charger on.. finished topping the battery, then tried to
use jumper cables.. still nothing.
David Paliotta
75 Glenbrook
Tulsa, OK
http://75glenbrook.googlepages.com/
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 8:49 AM, fred veenschoten <fredntoni@cox.net> wrote:
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> Look to see where the engine bat. neg. cable is connected. On my coach it
> was connected to the frame. It should be connected to the engine.
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| Re: [GMCnet] fixed stuck transmission cable.. now no start [message #227226 is a reply to message #227220] |
Sun, 27 October 2013 15:01 |
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| Dave Motorhome wrote on Sun, 27 October 2013 11:57 |
I am still going through all the emails. so far still no luck,
I have 2 grounds, one to the frame and one to the engine. full size battery
cables I guess 2 or 4 gauge
I moved the starter line to the battery ( I did leave a line to the boost
switch) not sure if I am supposed to.
I did disconnect all grounds and clean with steel wool, honestly they were
all clean copper.
I also wanted to mention I followed the manual yesterday when setting the
shift cable put gear in neutral, then disconnect the adjuster make sure the
tranny is in neutral I did (then pushed the rv to make sure) and then
reconnected the lot..
I also the trickle charger on.. finished topping the battery, then tried to
use jumper cables.. still nothing.
M
David Paliotta
75 Glenbrook
Tulsa, OK
http://75glenbrook.googlepages.com/
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 8:49 AM, fred veenschoten <fredntoni@cox.net> wrote:
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> Look to see where the engine bat. neg. cable is connected. On my coach it
> was connected to the frame. It should be connected to the engine.
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At this point you should go under the motor home and see if you have 12 volts at the big lug on the starter . If there is have someone try to start it . If you still have 12 volts put the meter on the small terminal and see if you have 12 volts there when the key is turned if no the ignition or neutral safety is not right. If you have twelve volts when the key is turned at the big terminal and the small terminal the starter or starter solonid is at fault. If you have a points type 75 there 2 small terminal on the starter you must use the one coming from the ignition not the coil.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] fixed stuck transmission cable.. now no start [message #227238 is a reply to message #227234] |
Sun, 27 October 2013 15:49 |
Dave Motorhome
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whew!!!! they spin opposite,
I have not tried the nss yet, and I am going to take the battery tomorrow
to get tested..
thanks everyone for the help. I would be VERY lost without you!
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:42 PM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:
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> Dave Motorhome wrote on Sun, 27 October 2013 15:27
> > manually put the tranny in park.. I could rotate the wheels spins
> freely, well relatively freely, so seems that the tranny
> > is not in gear? how in the $#%% could I break that with needle nose
> plyers and moving the cable? or is this how its supposed to be? doesn't
> seem right.
> When you spin one side, does the other side spin in the opposite
> direction? If so, that would be normal. The final drive is between the
> wheels and the transmission. It causes the effect described.
> --
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> '73 23' CanyonLands For Sale
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| Re: [GMCnet] fixed stuck transmission cable.. now no start [message #227240 is a reply to message #227233] |
Sun, 27 October 2013 16:10 |
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Sir: the motor starting does not have anything to do with the tranny being in gear. If the cable is unhooked or out of adjustment it can start in gear and take off. The gear shifter in the column controls everstuff electrical. Is there any slop in the column? Lower the tilt column and see if it makes any difference. This will make the ignition switch actuator rod a little shorter allowing it to pull the switch a little further. Hold the shift lever in park hard against the stop and try it, put the column in neutral and hold the key to start then move the shift lever while holding in start and see if anystuff happens, this will indicate neutral safety switch adjustment. You have checked the connectors on the ignition and neutral safety switches for being tight and clean?
| Dave Motorhome wrote on Sun, 27 October 2013 16:27 |
so, the way my luck is I thought I would go out again.. just recheck all my
doings.
jacked up the coach just to give a little more room,
loosened the cable, and manually put the tranny in park.. I could rotate
the wheels spins freely, well relatively freely, so seems that the tranny
is not in gear? how in the $#%% could I break that with needle nose plyers
and moving the cable? or is this how its supposed to be? doesn't seem right.
David Paliotta
75 Glenbrook
Tulsa, OK
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| Re: [GMCnet] fixed stuck transmission cable.. now no start [message #227388 is a reply to message #227381] |
Mon, 28 October 2013 14:11 |
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You should repair it proper as it will start now in any gear. The DR419 from Auto Zone is suppose to be the correct replacement. There are 2 screws that hold it in place and will allow it to slide (adjust) bout 3/8". Maybe loosen the screws and plug the plug back up and slide it either way and see if it will start? If not replace. To adjust the new one with the engine off and the key on and coach scotched put the gear selector in Reverse then adjust the switch till the back up lights are on and tighten the screws. It should now start in Park and Neutral only. The neutral safety switch is also the back up light switch.
| Dave Motorhome wrote on Mon, 28 October 2013 14:45 |
YEAH!!
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-cranking-improve-for-free/p34373-nss-bypass-jumper.html
made the jumper started right up!.. so do I leave it that way or replace
the part?
I don't want to half-.. well you know..
and again thanks to all. with out this group I would never have even
attempted to take on the GMC project!
David Paliotta
75 Glenbrook
Tulsa, OK
http://75glenbrook.googlepages.com/
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:41 AM, David <75glenbrook@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ran out of day light yesterday,
> today had battery tested.. good..
> tried to start moving the shifter around nothing..
> I have a little slop in my gear shifter but I don't notice anything else.
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> I found the cable that the keys moves. mine is very taught, I doubt I
> could move it 1/8 inch.
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> as for the connectors to clean. is that the purple wires?
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> and for the test with the jumpers, I will try that at my lunch break.
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> thanks.
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