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Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224728] Sun, 06 October 2013 18:54 Go to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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We have a GMCer broke down on I-44 at the Super 8 in Sullivan, Missouri with a broken alternator belt. All he needs is a replacement belt.

All of the parts stores are closed. He is trying to make Ft. Worth, TX by morning.

The spare he as is too long.

He can not run on the Onan because the converter is also not working.

If you can help with a spare belt call me, or better yet call Brian direct at: eight one seven - 371 - four nine zero nine.

My home phone is: 219 - nine eight eight - 45 four seven.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224737 is a reply to message #224728] Sun, 06 October 2013 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cancel the help request.

The guys gave up for the night and will try AZ and Orelie's in the AM if the engine battery is not too dead.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224738 is a reply to message #224737] Sun, 06 October 2013 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hopefully I should be able to use the battery boost to get it started. We
have the power steering belt on and the store is about a mile away, so
hopefully we can make it. Thanks for all the help so far. Only 600 more
miles to get home!

Appreciate the help and assistance. I'll update all the info when I get
home.

I am the guy who posted the "First Timer" email last week. I guess I got
broken into the GMC RV lifestyle right away. :)

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Cancel the help request.

The guys gave up for the night and will try AZ and Orelie's in the AM if the
engine battery is not too dead.
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Re: [GMCnet] Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224739 is a reply to message #224738] Sun, 06 October 2013 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have been talking to Ken on telephone. If y'all had come down 57 to 55 I could have run you a belt over but I am a long ways from where you are now. Keep us posted as you can.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224742 is a reply to message #224728] Sun, 06 October 2013 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If your battery is old and you may need to get one anyway, put a battery on the floor and run jumper cables out the passenger

sliding window under the right hood to the dead battery. If you have a full battery in the day time you can get at least 50 miles if

you do an Apollo 11, close all systems. I have done this a few times and it gets you there. This is a good idea if you are at a costco

for you can trade the battery in for a new one once a year or if you have a new battery from costco they will give you a new one now

and you could use it, Just an idea that works for me with the alternators going out. Mickey Anaheim ca, 77 palm playa



On Oct 6, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Ken Burton wrote:

>
>
> We have a GMCer broke down on I-44 at the Super 8 in Sullivan, Missouri with a broken alternator belt. All he needs is a replacement belt.
>
> All of the parts stores are closed. He is trying to make Ft. Worth, TX by morning.
>
> The spare he as is too long.
>
> He can not run on the Onan because the converter is also not working.
>
> If you can help with a spare belt call me, or better yet call Brian direct at: eight one seven - 371 - four nine zero nine.
>
> My home phone is: 219 - nine eight eight - 45 four seven.
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> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Re: Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224757 is a reply to message #224728] Mon, 07 October 2013 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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a plug in battery charger will do in a pinch also. plug it in in the coach and run the battery leads out the window or just tie it in to the house system and jump the isolator to charge both sides. Of course this assumes the onan or replacement works.

Mark


Mark Grueninger 76 Palm Beach Valmeyer IL
Re: [GMCnet] Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224758 is a reply to message #224738] Mon, 07 October 2013 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brian Oakes wrote on Sun, 06 October 2013 21:36

Hopefully I should be able to use the battery boost to get it started. We
have the power steering belt on and the store is about a mile away, so
hopefully we can make it. Thanks for all the help so far. Only 600 more
miles to get home!

Appreciate the help and assistance. I'll update all the info when I get
home.



Brian,

If you are coming on down I-44, I am in Springfield,MO. You are welcome to stop by, spend the night, make any other needed repairs, etc.


Randy & Margie
'77 Eleganza II '403'
Battlefield, MO
Re: Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224767 is a reply to message #224757] Mon, 07 October 2013 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mgrue wrote on Mon, 07 October 2013 08:45

a plug in battery charger will do in a pinch also. plug it in in the coach and run the battery leads out the window or just tie it in to the house system and jump the isolator to charge both sides. Of course this assumes the onan or replacement works.

Mark



Both the Onan and the converter do not work. I could get the Onan running by jumpering the control board but the converter still does not produce 12 volts on the Onan or shore power. I thought about the battery charger idea last night but most chargers would not produce enough power for night time driving. So he decided to just replace the belt and do the the correct way.

If he was going to have to spend $50 on a new charger he just should put that money towards a new Progressive Dynamics converter. We did not have time to remove the converter and look at it other than fuses. It might be repairable. It is not a buzz box. It was a single voltage brand and style I have not seen before.


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Re: Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224779 is a reply to message #224767] Mon, 07 October 2013 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Burton wrote on Mon, 07 October 2013 09:55

Both the Onan and the converter do not work. I could get the Onan running by jumpering the control board but the converter still does not produce 12 volts on the Onan or shore power. I thought about the battery charger idea last night but most chargers would not produce enough power for night time driving. So he decided to just replace the belt and do the the correct way.

If he was going to have to spend $50 on a new charger he just should put that money towards a new Progressive Dynamics converter. We did not have time to remove the converter and look at it other than fuses. It might be repairable. It is not a buzz box. It was a single voltage brand and style I have not seen before.
Dumb question of the day: Does the Onan internal charger generate enough power to run the GMC? With headlights and dash heater/ac fan on too?
Re: Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224782 is a reply to message #224779] Mon, 07 October 2013 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A Hamilto wrote on Mon, 07 October 2013 11:23

Ken Burton wrote on Mon, 07 October 2013 09:55

Both the Onan and the converter do not work. I could get the Onan running by jumpering the control board but the converter still does not produce 12 volts on the Onan or shore power. I thought about the battery charger idea last night but most chargers would not produce enough power for night time driving. So he decided to just replace the belt and do the the correct way.

If he was going to have to spend $50 on a new charger he just should put that money towards a new Progressive Dynamics converter. We did not have time to remove the converter and look at it other than fuses. It might be repairable. It is not a buzz box. It was a single voltage brand and style I have not seen before.
Dumb question of the day: Does the Onan internal charger generate enough power to run the GMC? With headlights and dash heater/ac fan on too?


Not all of the Onans are using an internal charger, mine isn't.
Ken, I have a good spare converter. They really should have taken 57 to 55, you know what I mean? Very Happy
Travel by the black list. I think I warned him before he left Texas.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224785 is a reply to message #224779] Mon, 07 October 2013 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No. The Onan flywheel alternator's battery charger circuit, if not
disconnected, is rated at only 8A.

Ken H.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:23 PM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:

> Dumb question of the day: Does the Onan internal charger generate enough
> power to run the GMC? With headlights and dash heater/ac fan on too?
>
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Re: Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224787 is a reply to message #224779] Mon, 07 October 2013 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A Hamilto wrote on Mon, 07 October 2013 11:23

Ken Burton wrote on Mon, 07 October 2013 09:55

Both the Onan and the converter do not work. I could get the Onan running by jumpering the control board but the converter still does not produce 12 volts on the Onan or shore power. I thought about the battery charger idea last night but most chargers would not produce enough power for night time driving. So he decided to just replace the belt and do the the correct way.

If he was going to have to spend $50 on a new charger he just should put that money towards a new Progressive Dynamics converter. We did not have time to remove the converter and look at it other than fuses. It might be repairable. It is not a buzz box. It was a single voltage brand and style I have not seen before.
Dumb question of the day: Does the Onan internal charger generate enough power to run the GMC? With headlights and dash heater/ac fan on too?


No

I think it is around 8 amps maximum and is not hooked up on coaches without a rear stand alone starting battery.


Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224801 is a reply to message #224728] Mon, 07 October 2013 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I got a text around 3:30 PM and the guys are on the road near Tulsa. They replaced all three belts.


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Re: Need assistance tonight in Sullivan Missouri [message #224803 is a reply to message #224801] Mon, 07 October 2013 16:30 Go to previous message
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Ken Burton wrote on Mon, 07 October 2013 16:03

I got a text around 3:30 PM and the guys are on the road near Tulsa. They replaced all three belts.


Thanks for the info Ken.
Dan


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