Help with Mary's cruise control [message #223039] |
Wed, 18 September 2013 19:26 |
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Matt Colie
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Mary is getting a little annoyed.
The cruise doesn't work. The light comes on but it doesn't hold.
I've check the vacuum lines and the ball chain and everything seems to be as it should. I am hoping to have time to tear it down at Branson, but that still gives her a day of "Driving"
This is made worse because I now have all the parts but I still haven't had time to install the Dana Speedostat (c.1973) that I have in a special box in my barn.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: Help with Mary's cruise control [message #223041 is a reply to message #223039] |
Wed, 18 September 2013 20:03 |
Dennis S
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Matt Colie wrote on Wed, 18 September 2013 19:26 | Mary is getting a little annoyed.
The cruise doesn't work. The light comes on but it doesn't hold.
I've check the vacuum lines and the ball chain and everything seems to be as it should. I am hoping to have time to tear it down at Branson, but that still gives her a day of "Driving"
This is made worse because I now have all the parts but I still haven't had time to install the Dana Speedostat (c.1973) that I have in a special box in my barn.
Matt
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Matt
When you checked the vacuum lines did you also check the bellows?
Dennis
Dennis S
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Memphis TN Metro
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Re: Help with Mary's cruise control [message #223059 is a reply to message #223039] |
Wed, 18 September 2013 21:17 |
Dennis S
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Matt Colie wrote on Wed, 18 September 2013 19:26 | Mary is getting a little annoyed.
The cruise doesn't work. The light comes on but it doesn't hold.
I've check the vacuum lines and the ball chain and everything seems to be as it should. I am hoping to have time to tear it down at Branson, but that still gives her a day of "Driving"
This is made worse because I now have all the parts but I still haven't had time to install the Dana Speedostat (c.1973) that I have in a special box in my barn.
Matt
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Matt,
Well I was hoping for something simple.
I have read through the cruise control section in the MM -- and it does offer some good checks for the various components.
I can't recall that any one component has been reported to be more likely to fail -- other than the vacuum lines which you have already tested.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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Re: Help with Mary's cruise control [message #223072 is a reply to message #223039] |
Wed, 18 September 2013 22:11 |
Carl S.
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Matt Colie wrote on Wed, 18 September 2013 17:26 | Mary is getting a little annoyed.
The cruise doesn't work. The light comes on but it doesn't hold.
I've check the vacuum lines and the ball chain and everything seems to be as it should. I am hoping to have time to tear it down at Branson, but that still gives her a day of "Driving"
This is made worse because I now have all the parts but I still haven't had time to install the Dana Speedostat (c.1973) that I have in a special box in my barn.
Matt
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Matt,
A few years ago, when I was having intermittent problems with my cruise control, Ken B suggested I move the ground from the body to the engine. It helped. I eventually ended up replacing the transducer and the turn signal stalk switch and now it works perfectly.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: Help with Mary's cruise control [message #223121 is a reply to message #223114] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 09:36 |
Dennis S
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Matt,
I have MM X-7525B. Section 12, page 12-41, has a cc diagnosis, followed by tests for the brake and vacuum switches.
Someone at Branson probably has the same -- or I can scan and email. I could not locate it on bdubs list of manuals.
Dennis
Matt Colie wrote on Thu, 19 September 2013 08:37 |
Dennis S wrote on Wed, 18 September 2013 22:17 | Matt,
Well I was hoping for something simple.
I have read through the cruise control section in the MM -- and it does offer some good checks for the various components.
I can't recall that any one component has been reported to be more likely to fail -- other than the vacuum lines which you have already tested.
Dennis
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Dennis,
Thanks, I had read the MM I have on the drive and found nothing other than "Replace the transducer". Well, that's not going to happen on the road. There is still hope that I can open and clean it at Branson.
Matt
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Dennis S
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Re: Help with Mary's cruise control [message #223129 is a reply to message #223121] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 10:28 |
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Matt Colie
Messages: 8547 Registered: March 2007 Location: S.E. Michigan
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Dennis S wrote on Thu, 19 September 2013 10:36 | Matt,
I have MM X-7525B. Section 12, page 12-41, has a cc diagnosis, followed by tests for the brake and vacuum switches.
Someone at Branson probably has the same -- or I can scan and email. I could not locate it on bdubs list of manuals.
Dennis
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Thanks Dennis,
I actually have that set of manuals onboard. I went thought their checks, but I don't like the "replace the transducer" answer.
I've had it open before, but I was really hoping to not do it at Branson.
I was really hoping that someone would say, "check the ....."
and it would fix it.
Thanks
Matt - about into Cabool on the way to Mountain Grove for fuel
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Help with Mary's cruise control [message #223131 is a reply to message #223129] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 10:49 |
powerjon
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Matt,
When you get there and it is non repairable then Tom Hampton usually brings a few in the vendors area and I am sure that Jim K will also have one too.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On Sep 19, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I actually have that set of manuals onboard. I went thought their checks, but I don't like the "replace the transducer" answer.
> I've had it open before, but I was really hoping to not do it at Branson.
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> I was really hoping that someone would say, "check the ....."
> and it would fix it.
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> Thanks
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> Matt - about into Cabool on the way to Mountain Grove for fuel
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> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air)
> Now with 4 working Rear Brakes
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: Help with Mary's cruise control [message #223135 is a reply to message #223129] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 12:53 |
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wally
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Matt Colie wrote on Thu, 19 September 2013 10:28 |
Dennis S wrote on Thu, 19 September 2013 10:36 | Matt,
I have MM X-7525B. Section 12, page 12-41, has a cc diagnosis, followed by tests for the brake and vacuum switches.
Someone at Branson probably has the same -- or I can scan and email. I could not locate it on bdubs list of manuals.
Dennis
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Thanks Dennis,
I actually have that set of manuals onboard. I went thought their checks, but I don't like the "replace the transducer" answer.
I've had it open before, but I was really hoping to not do it at Branson.
I was really hoping that someone would say, "check the ....."
and it would fix it.
Thanks
Matt - about into Cabool on the way to Mountain Grove for fuel
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Matt, you might try poking out the fixed orifice in the "A" marked port. I have one here that measures about .072". A paper clip will go thru it. Beings the light comes on you know the solenoid is staying energized so it has met the minimum speed switch and stuff moved, electrically it must be OK.
Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
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Re: Help with Mary's cruise control [message #223157 is a reply to message #223039] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 17:23 |
JohnL455
Messages: 4447 Registered: October 2006 Location: Woodstock, IL
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Oxidized 3 pin connector giving less than full connection. (You wanted the easy spray can fix!) You sure the brake switch isn't leaking or a slightly split hose? When I read my Mopar Jeep manual EVERYTHING is "if there is a problem replace entire module". Nothing serviceable....at least most of the GMC is not that way.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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