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ljdavick
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I wonder how secure our door locks are. I know that they aren't vulnerable to slim-jim un-locking. The reason for this is that my local Fremont police blotter included a notice about a vehicle break in that has me worried - the criminals are getting bold.
Auto Burglary
During the night unknown suspects burglarized a vehicle that was parked on the front lawn of a residence on Third Street in Niles. The vehicle was ransacked, but the only item taken was a bag of elephant dung that the vehicle owner had received as a gag gift. Appears they may have thought it was a bag of marijuana. We assume they must have been pretty shocked by the surprise!
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223021 is a reply to message #223019] |
Wed, 18 September 2013 16:12  |
Dennis S
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Larry
When burglars broke into 7 rv's at the storage lot, they used a crow bar or large pry bar. Most of the door locks snapped easily.
The GMC door popped open.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5917-early-73-door-damage-from-break-in.html
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| ljdavick wrote on Wed, 18 September 2013 15:50 |
I wonder how secure our door locks are. I know that they aren't vulnerable to slim-jim un-locking. The reason for this is that my local Fremont police blotter included a notice about a vehicle break in that has me worried - the criminals are getting bold.
Auto Burglary
During the night unknown suspects burglarized a vehicle that was parked on the front lawn of a residence on Third Street in Niles. The vehicle was ransacked, but the only item taken was a bag of elephant dung that the vehicle owner had received as a gag gift. Appears they may have thought it was a bag of marijuana. We assume they must have been pretty shocked by the surprise!
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
A Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223050 is a reply to message #223019] |
Wed, 18 September 2013 20:44 |
Steve
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I have seen a GMC with a dead bolt installed on the door. Not sure how that would hold up to a crow bar?
1978 GMC Royal
Eastern Pennslyvania
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1969 Chevrolet C20 Camper Special
1985 Buick Electra Park Avenue
1992 Camaro 25th Anniversary Heretage Edition Black
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223067 is a reply to message #223046] |
Wed, 18 September 2013 21:40 |
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| hnielsen2 wrote on Wed, 18 September 2013 16:56 |
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Never gave much thought to brake in of the GMC's
Maybe some one has a good idea....
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Electric fence charger...three very thin wires. One across the door opening about a foot inside the door about shin high. A second one about neck high from the fridge to somewhere across the entrance. A baggie of Paprika on the kitchen counter as bait.
Third wire on a non conductive floor. Plastic on the floor might make cleanup easier.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223082 is a reply to message #223019] |
Wed, 18 September 2013 22:52 |
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hnielsen2
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That would work for me.
Good idea.
Thanks
Howard
All is well with my Lord
On Sep 18, 2013, at 19:40, Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com> wrote:
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> hnielsen2 wrote on Wed, 18 September 2013 16:56
>> ..
>> Never gave much thought to brake in of the GMC's
>> Maybe some one has a good idea....
>
>
> Electric fence charger...three very thin wires. One across the door opening about a foot inside the door about shin high. A second one about neck high from the fridge to somewhere across the entrance. A baggie of Paprika on the kitchen counter as bait.
>
> Third wire on a non conductive floor. Plastic on the floor might make cleanup easier.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
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> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223104 is a reply to message #223097] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 08:00 |
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Gene,
I reckon audible alarms are a waste of money, unless there's a cop around.
I don't know about you but there is no way I would approach any vehicle with the alarm going off, the perp might be inside.
In this day and age in the USA it is quite possible you'd get you're a$$ SHOT!
Come to think of it I wouldn't do it in Australia either.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: gene Fisher
I saw a door alarm installed in a GMC
came from the dollar store, for a dollar,
http://www.dollartree.com/Window-and-Door-Alarm-System/p184790/index.pro
I think it was done by
John Chalfant for his 1978 Birchaven
maybe he is on here
often a very loud noise is better protection
gene
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223105 is a reply to message #223067] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 08:00 |
jhbridges
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Choose the correct travelling companions and breakins are no worry.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/chick-magnet/p42449-ch-duke-and-paula.html
At home, we put the coach in the backyard inside the dog fence. They go check if they hear something. They have real good hearing.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm bach
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On Thu, 9/19/13, Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Thursday, September 19, 2013, 2:40 AM
hnielsen2 wrote on Wed, 18 September 2013 16:56
> ..
> Never gave much thought to brake in of the GMC's
> Maybe some one has a good idea....
Electric fence charger...three very thin wires. One
across the door opening about a foot inside the door about
shin high. A second one about neck high from the
fridge to somewhere across the entrance. A baggie of
Paprika on the kitchen counter as bait.
Third wire on a non conductive floor. Plastic on the
floor might make cleanup easier.
--
Kerry Pinkerton
North Alabama, near Huntsville,
77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being
re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223106 is a reply to message #223105] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 08:07 |
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What breed are those? Them's some big dogs!
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> Choose the correct travelling companions and breakins are no worry.
>
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/chick-magnet/p42449-ch-duke-and-paula.html
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> At home, we put the coach in the backyard inside the dog fence. They go
> check if they hear something. They have real good hearing.
>
> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm bach
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 9/19/13, Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Thursday, September 19, 2013, 2:40 AM
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>
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> hnielsen2 wrote on Wed, 18 September 2013 16:56
> > ..
> > Never gave much thought to brake in of the GMC's
> > Maybe some one has a good idea....
>
>
> Electric fence charger...three very thin wires. One
> across the door opening about a foot inside the door about
> shin high. A second one about neck high from the
> fridge to somewhere across the entrance. A baggie of
> Paprika on the kitchen counter as bait.
>
> Third wire on a non conductive floor. Plastic on the
> floor might make cleanup easier.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being
> re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223108 is a reply to message #223105] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 08:18 |
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YOU ARE RIGHT
often it does not take much to stop an intrusion
- a flashing led might do it
- car alarms do not call the police
- alarms call attention not the police
- and dogs barking do much more good than their teeth do :>)
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:00 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> Choose the correct travelling companions and breakins are no worry.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/chick-magnet/p42449-ch-duke-and-paula.html
>
> At home, we put the coach in the backyard inside the dog fence. They go
> check if they hear something. They have real good hearing.
>
> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm bach
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 9/19/13, Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Thursday, September 19, 2013, 2:40 AM
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>
>
> hnielsen2 wrote on Wed, 18 September 2013 16:56
> > ..
> > Never gave much thought to brake in of the GMC's
> > Maybe some one has a good idea....
>
>
> Electric fence charger...three very thin wires. One
> across the door opening about a foot inside the door about
> shin high. A second one about neck high from the
> fridge to somewhere across the entrance. A baggie of
> Paprika on the kitchen counter as bait.
>
> Third wire on a non conductive floor. Plastic on the
> floor might make cleanup easier.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being
> re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223109 is a reply to message #223106] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 08:20 |
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Kuvasz. Or kuvaszok if there's a bunch of them. The Hungarians can't pluralize for beans. If you show up in Gadsden, you'll meet that one most likely. WE always meet outside the coach and then go in together. Particularly if we're in a strange place and he's never met you. They meet people well on neutral territory.
I've a presentation on dogs in RVs I was gonna offer TPTB for Branson till scheduling killed my chances of going. P'raps another time.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
n.b. TPTB = The Powers That Be
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On Thu, 9/19/13, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In
To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Thursday, September 19, 2013, 1:07 PM
What breed are those? Them's some big
dogs!
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
wrote:
> Choose the correct travelling companions and breakins
are no worry.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/chick-magnet/p42449-ch-duke-and-paula.html
>
> At home, we put the coach in the
backyard inside the dog fence. They go
> check if they hear something. They have real good
hearing.
>
> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm bach
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 9/19/13, Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com>
wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Thursday, September 19, 2013, 2:40 AM
>
>
>
> hnielsen2 wrote on Wed, 18 September 2013 16:56
> > ..
> > Never gave much thought to brake in of the
GMC's
> > Maybe some one has a good idea....
>
>
> Electric fence charger...three very thin
wires. One
> across the door opening about a foot inside the
door about
> shin high. A second one about neck high
from the
> fridge to somewhere across the entrance. A
baggie of
> Paprika on the kitchen counter as bait.
>
> Third wire on a non conductive floor.
Plastic on the
> floor might make cleanup easier.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76
Eleganza being
> re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223112 is a reply to message #223019] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 08:34 |
lqqkatjon
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I am probably going to have a break in after saying this.
I am a believer that alarms help. you are never going to stop the "professional, determined thief"... however most thiefs are cowards, and do not want any difficulties.
I think the best is signage. let them know it is alarmed. or get a large real looking stuffed animal dog that lays on passenger seat , and put a "beware of dog" sign in the window.
an alarm is not going to help you with a broken window, or a busted door in the end. but the sound will usually make then scatter.
But I am with Rob, stay back if the alarm goes off. property is not worth any confrontation.
I work in low voltage industry and know alot of alarm people. they will tell you that they do not really deal with many situation where an alarm is installed, and they have break in's. however they get business when the neighbor gets broken into who does not have the alarm, and calls the number posted on the sign of the house that did not get hit.
not every case, but I would say the majority.
our best thing we have at work to secure our copper cable, is some remotely monitored security cameras. they cost like $2500, and $80 a month. pretty spendy. But we arm them like an alarm at the end of the day. then if motion is detected, it gets instantly sent out to a 24/hour monitoring station. they look at it and see if it is a "legit" deal, and call us, and the police. it is a silent deal. cameras are wireless, and look like fake cameras.
we have caught some offenders once. plenty of false alarms(our own employees not shutting them off). and one time the stupid police got there about 5 minutes after the crooks left the scene.
I have seen an alarm trigger hidden pressure switch under a door step mat. so it goes off before the crook tries to break in.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223113 is a reply to message #223104] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 08:33 |
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Thats when you need the Judge.
Jim Miller
On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:00 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Gene,
>
> I reckon audible alarms are a waste of money, unless there's a cop around.
>
> I don't know about you but there is no way I would approach any vehicle with the alarm going off, the perp might be inside.
>
> In this day and age in the USA it is quite possible you'd get you're a$$ SHOT!
>
> Come to think of it I wouldn't do it in Australia either.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gene Fisher
>
> I saw a door alarm installed in a GMC
>
> came from the dollar store, for a dollar,
> http://www.dollartree.com/Window-and-Door-Alarm-System/p184790/index.pro
>
> I think it was done by
> John Chalfant for his 1978 Birchaven
>
> maybe he is on here
>
> often a very loud noise is better protection
>
> gene
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223116 is a reply to message #223112] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 08:46 |
jhbridges
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Jon -
Check with Security Camera World. We put four camera systems with recorders at our RF plants. They're less than $500, have motion detection, and callout. We have i.p. connectivity to our sites, it's cheaper than monitoring and we need it anyway. A couple of gentlemen up at Alto, Ga will tell you how effective the system is at catching people trying to steal the cables coming off the genaset if you go on Visiting Day and ask them. The machine outcall till they are told to stop. It takes but a moment to go start the computer, start a browser, and pull up the display. And not much longer to call the copshop for that jurisdiction. My stuff is at the end of dirt roads which gives the police time to get there before the crooks leave.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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On Thu, 9/19/13, Jon Roche <lqqkatjon@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Thursday, September 19, 2013, 1:34 PM
I am probably going to have a break in after saying this.
I am a believer that alarms help. you are never going
to stop the "professional, determined thief"...
however most thiefs are cowards, and do not want any
difficulties.
I think the best is signage. let them know it is
alarmed. or get a large real looking stuffed animal
dog that lays on passenger seat , and put a "beware of dog"
sign in the window.
an alarm is not going to help you with a broken
window, or a busted door in the end. but the
sound will usually make then scatter.
But I am with Rob, stay back if the alarm goes
off. property is not worth any confrontation.
I work in low voltage industry and know alot of alarm
people. they will tell you that they do not really
deal with many situation where an alarm is installed, and
they have break in's. however they get business
when the neighbor gets broken into who does not have the
alarm, and calls the number posted on the sign of the house
that did not get hit.
not every case, but I would say the majority.
our best thing we have at work to secure our copper cable,
is some remotely monitored security cameras. they cost
like $2500, and $80 a month. pretty spendy. But
we arm them like an alarm at the end of the
day. then if motion is detected, it gets
instantly sent out to a 24/hour monitoring station.
they look at it and see if it is a "legit" deal, and call
us, and the police. it is a silent deal. cameras
are wireless, and look like fake cameras.
we have caught some offenders once. plenty of false
alarms(our own employees not shutting them
off). and one time the stupid police got
there about 5 minutes after the crooks left the scene.
I have seen an alarm trigger hidden pressure switch under a
door step mat. so it goes off before the crook tries
to break in.
--
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223117 is a reply to message #223019] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 08:50 |
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Don't worry about it for a second. You will only lose sleep on this. If
they want in, they will get in even if you wrap the coach in chains. Chose
your storage area wisely. Many of the good ones, and good means they cost
a bit more, have security cameras lighting. Other than jail, there is not
much that stops a vandal or a thief.
Steve F.
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
> I wonder how secure our door locks are. I know that they aren't vulnerable
> to slim-jim un-locking. The reason for this is that my local Fremont police
> blotter included a notice about a vehicle break in that has me worried -
> the criminals are getting bold.
>
>
>
> Auto Burglary
>
> During the night unknown suspects burglarized a vehicle that was parked on
> the front lawn of a residence on Third Street in Niles. The vehicle was
> ransacked, but the only item taken was a bag of elephant dung that the
> vehicle owner had received as a gag gift. Appears they may have thought it
> was a bag of marijuana. We assume they must have been pretty shocked by the
> surprise!
>
> Larry Davick
> Fremont, California
> A Mystery Machine
> '76 (ish) Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Securing from Break-In [message #223118 is a reply to message #223019] |
Thu, 19 September 2013 09:02 |
lqqkatjon
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Registered: October 2010
Location: St. Cloud, MN
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ours are spendy, because they are 100% wireless and mobile.
runs 5 years on lithium batteries. 3 cameras and a key pad.
We move them from jobsite to jobsite. slap them on to a light pole or something.
call the dispatch and give them the address/location we just set them up at.(or the cops get sent to the last place address we called in)
when they call the cops, they also email me a 15 second video clip.
you are right, they are great. I think word gets out too after someone got caught. no one has messed with us since. used to be quite common.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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