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Wed, 18 September 2013 14:36

lw8000

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Hi all...

We've had mice getting in our 77 Kingsley since we got it last year. I've slowly been going around and plugging holes, and I think I got most if not all of the ones I can find. We had a spot where the plywood rotted out in the corner just behind the passenger seat that we plugged with bondo. I also caulked the entire rear wheel well areas and made sure the areas where the air lines run in are all sealed.

However, mice are still getting in and we trap most of them under the couch (in this floorplan it is located just behind the driver's seat). Once in a while we'll trap one under the kitchen sink cabinet which is next to the couch. We have traps on the opposite side that have never trapped anything. So it seems that they are getting in on the left side of the coach however I can't find where they are getting in.

Just curious what location(s) that you've seen mice getting in? And how did you fix them?

Thanks as always!!
--
Chris

Chris S. - 77 Kingsley, 3.70 FD, mostly OEM - S.E. Michigan

[Updated on: Wed, 18 September 2013 14:38]

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Re: Mice keep getting in [message #223011 is a reply to message #223010]

Wed, 18 September 2013 14:49

lqqkatjon

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I have trapped most under my kitchen sink.

however, I do have to admit, that since I have installed some ultrasonic mice devices. I have not trapped anymore.

it could be that I trapped all the intruders already and have not had a re-infestation.

I am sure them little buggers could get in really easy in many many spots. can't imagine blocking them all.

Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/

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Wed, 18 September 2013 14:53

jim kanomata

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The sewer opening at where thepipe goes int the tank is where some come through.
Sometimes using the sticky stuff at areas where you think they are coming from helps to aid in analizing where .

Jim Kanomata Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA jimk@appliedairfilters.com http://www.appliedgmc.com 1-800-752-7502

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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #223015 is a reply to message #223010]

Wed, 18 September 2013 14:47

emerystora

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Check around the two drain holes in the floor that go down to the holding tank. You have one under the cabinet floor below the air pump and one in front of the water tank for the bathroom sink and shower drain. You will have to pull the water tank to get to the second one. They made a very large hole in the floor for both pipes. Cut some aluminum sheet flashing to go around the pipe and screw it to the floor. That stopped the mice for me.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:36 PM, LW wrote:

>
>
> Hi all...
>
> We've had mice getting in our 77 Kingsley since we got it last year. I've slowly been going around and plugging holes, and I think I got most if not all of the ones I can find. We had a spot where the plywood rotted out in the corner just behind the passenger seat that we plugged with bondo. I also caulked the entire rear wheel well areas and made sure the areas where the air lines run in are all sealed.
>
> However, mice are still getting in and we trap most of them under the couch (in this floorplan it is located just behind the driver's seat). Once in a while we'll trap one under the kitchen sink cabinet which is next to the couch. So it seems that they are getting in on the left side of the coach however I can't find where they are getting in.
>
> Just curious what location(s) that you've seen mice getting in? And how did you fix them?
>
> Thanks as always!!
> --
> Chris
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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #223025 is a reply to message #223015]

Wed, 18 September 2013 16:34

Harry

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I found a herd of mice living in the heater/blower box under the hood. I had to use a pair of very long needle nose pliers to catch them and pull them out. Yes, they were alive.

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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #223036 is a reply to message #223011]

Wed, 18 September 2013 19:00

jhbridges

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I've yet to have a mouse problem, but if I do have one in the future, I shall allow our Maine Coon rescue, Macavity P Pussycat, spend the night in the coach for a few days. He is a world champion mouser.

--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach

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On Wed, 9/18/13, Jon Roche <lqqkatjon@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Wednesday, September 18, 2013, 7:49 PM

I have trapped most under my kitchen sink.

however,� I do have to admit, that since I have
installed some ultrasonic mice devices.� I have not
trapped anymore.

it could be that I trapped all the intruders already and
have not had a re-infestation.

I am sure them little buggers could get in really easy in
many many spots.� can't imagine blocking them all.

--
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #223037 is a reply to message #223014]

Wed, 18 September 2013 19:03

jhbridges

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Mr. K -
I'm the world's worst typist, so I seldom comment on other's typos. But I got to admit, I did a take on "...aid in analizing.."
You might wanna try "...help in figuring out..." next time. :) :)

--johnny

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On Wed, 9/18/13, jim kanomata <jimk@appliedairfilters.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in
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Date: Wednesday, September 18, 2013, 7:53 PM

The sewer opening at where thepipe goes int the tank is
where some come through.
Sometimes using the sticky stuff at areas where you think
they are coming from helps to aid in analizing where .
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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #223040 is a reply to message #223037]

Wed, 18 September 2013 19:34

mickey szilagyi

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For some folks that's where their brain is so, for them, it's quite applicable.

Mickey 1977 Kingsley, 403, Lansing, MI

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Re: Mice keep getting in [message #223076 is a reply to message #223010]

Wed, 18 September 2013 22:22

Carl S.

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lw8000 wrote on Wed, 18 September 2013 12:36

Hi all...

We've had mice getting in our 77 Kingsley since we got it last year. I've slowly been going around and plugging holes, and I think I got most if not all of the ones I can find. We had a spot where the plywood rotted out in the corner just behind the passenger seat that we plugged with bondo. I also caulked the entire rear wheel well areas and made sure the areas where the air lines run in are all sealed.

However, mice are still getting in and we trap most of them under the couch (in this floorplan it is located just behind the driver's seat). Once in a while we'll trap one under the kitchen sink cabinet which is next to the couch. We have traps on the opposite side that have never trapped anything. So it seems that they are getting in on the left side of the coach however I can't find where they are getting in.

Just curious what location(s) that you've seen mice getting in? And how did you fix them?

Thanks as always!!
--
Chris

I can't add anything to the subject of where the mice are getting in, but...I might be able to help keep them away.

Here in the desert, where I live, we have a lot of nocturnal rodents; pack rats, deer mice, kangaroo rats, etc. The problem I have been battling is the pack rats. Taking a cue from the camp hosts at a nearby state park, I put a couple of light ropes under the coach. They are plugged into a little photocell switch so they come on when it gets dark and go off when it gets light out.

I haven't had a rat problem since. The rats, being nocturnal, stay away from the lighted area. Maybe that would help with your mouse problem.

Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member

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Re: Mice keep getting in [message #223083 is a reply to message #223010]

Wed, 18 September 2013 23:55

Adrien G.

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Chris,

There are many places where rodents can sneak in besides where already mentioned. The wall ribs go down past the floor and the channel shape make a good tunnel, and unless filled or plugged up it's a way in. Check for gaps between the rear wheel house and wall.

Check them out.

Chris asks.

We've had mice getting in our 77 Kingsley since we got it last year. I've slowly been going around and plugging holes, and I think I got most if not all of the ones I can find. We had a spot where the plywood rotted out in the corner just behind the passenger seat that we plugged with bondo. I also caulked the entire rear wheel well areas and made sure the areas where the air lines run in are all sealed.

However, mice are still getting in and we trap most of them under the couch (in this floorplan it is located just behind the driver's seat). Once in a while we'll trap one under the kitchen sink cabinet which is next to the couch. We have traps on the opposite side that have never trapped anything. So it seems that they are getting in on the left side of the coach however I can't find where they are getting in.

Just curious what location(s) that you've seen mice getting in? And how did you fix them?

Adrien & Jenny Genesoto 75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6

[Updated on: Thu, 19 September 2013 00:00]

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Re: Mice keep getting in [message #230568 is a reply to message #223010]

Wed, 20 November 2013 20:35

lw8000

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Thank you for the information. We finally dropped the black tank and yep, the toilet drain had a huge area where I'm sure mice were getting in. The hole cut in the floor has at least a 3/4" space all the way around, between that hole and the toilet drain pipe that goes through it. It looks like there may have been a plastic flange there at one time, but it had been either chewed by mice or deteriorated. We will be doing just as Emery said and putting down aluminum flashing.

The drain holes for the shower drain and kitchen sink seem to also have some sort of plastic flanges and are sealed tight. So far so good.

We will also look at the ribs and other areas and post the findings there too.

--
Chris

Chris S. - 77 Kingsley, 3.70 FD, mostly OEM - S.E. Michigan

[Updated on: Wed, 20 November 2013 20:37]

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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #230582 is a reply to message #223037]

Wed, 20 November 2013 22:28

jim kanomata

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Johnny,
Please give this Ornamental a break.
I almost did not graduate from college as they had an requirement that one needed to pass the Jr. English Proficiency Exam.
I failed that 2 times, but they dropped the requirement my Sr. year, so here I am flaunting my Enguish.

Jim Kanomata Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA jimk@appliedairfilters.com http://www.appliedgmc.com 1-800-752-7502

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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #230585 is a reply to message #230582]

Wed, 20 November 2013 22:42

Bullitthead

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I can look right through the heat/A/C intake from out front and see the floor inside! I'm sure some "visitors" have entered through there, and I caught them with a bucket of windshield washer fluid! Going to cover the opening ouside with some hardware cloth (1/4 grid wire mesh) and hope that keeps them at bay. Is there any way to get to that hole in the floor under the toilet without removing the black tank?

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.

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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #230587 is a reply to message #230568]

Wed, 20 November 2013 22:47

emerystora

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Chris, there is also a large gap around the pipe in the wall behind the toilet. You will have to remove the water tank to get to it. That also needs flashing.

On the other side of the tank where the kitchen sink drains is another place. On my 1977 Kingsley I had to take out the air compressor and the small floor in that area to get to it.

Check out http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3276-kitchen-sink-drain-to-holding-tank.html

You may also want to consider modifying the slip joint for the passenger side of the holding tank. Again you have to take out the fresh water tank to do it.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4986-holding-tank-top-fitting.html

Emery Stora

On Nov 20, 2013, at 7:35 PM, LW <tux@apex-internet.com> wrote:

>
>
> Thank you for the information. We finally dropped the black tank and yep, the toilet drain had a huge area where I'm sure mice were getting in. The hole cut in the floor has at least a 3/4" space between that hole and the toilet drain pipe that goes through it. It looks like there may have been a plastic flange there at one time, but it had been either chewed by mice or deteriorated. We will be doing just as Emery said and putting down aluminum flashing.
>
> We will also look at the ribs and other areas and post the findings there too.
>
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #230635 is a reply to message #223036]

Thu, 21 November 2013 08:34

John Sharpe

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Quote:

...I've yet to have a mouse problem, but if I do have one in the future, I shall allow our Maine Coon rescue, Macavity P Pussycat, spend the night in the coach for a few days. He is a world champion mouser....

A snake may even be better at getting those little critters.

John Sharpe
Humble,TX
'78 Eleganza TBI
'89 Spectrum 2000 MPI V-10
'40 Ford Panel Delivery TPI
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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #230642 is a reply to message #230585]

Thu, 21 November 2013 09:19

Bob de Kruyff

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Bullitthead wrote on Wed, 20 November 2013 21:42

I can look right through the heat/A/C intake from out front and see the floor inside! I'm sure some "visitors" have entered through there, and I caught them with a bucket of windshield washer fluid! Going to cover the opening ouside with some hardware cloth (1/4 grid wire mesh) and hope that keeps them at bay. Is there any way to get to that hole in the floor under the toilet without removing the black tank?

I had the same thing with my recirc door so i thought I'd kill 2 birds with one stone and try to keep the dust out as well:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/miscellaneous/p16105.html

Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ

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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #230648 is a reply to message #223037]

Thu, 21 November 2013 09:35

cbwoodsr

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Y, I, sounds the same.... Smile

Smile

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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #230649 is a reply to message #230587]

Thu, 21 November 2013 09:42

Ken Burton

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Emery,

How about using those Victor brand mouse chasers you recommended a while back?

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #230655 is a reply to message #230635]

Thu, 21 November 2013 10:20

jhbridges

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I have a deal with suh-nakes.� If I don't see them, I don't kill them.� I'm like Robin and wasps.�
�
--johnny
�

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> ...I've yet to have a mouse problem, but if I do have one in the future, I shall allow our Maine Coon rescue, Macavity P Pussycat, spend the night in the coach for a few days. He is a world champion mouser....

A snake may even be better at getting those little critters.
--
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Humble,TX
'78 Eleganza TBI
'89 Spectrum 2000 MPI V-10
'40 Ford Deluxe TBI
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Re: [GMCnet] Mice keep getting in [message #230660 is a reply to message #230655]

Thu, 21 November 2013 10:47

Ken Burton

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Laurie came upon a snake in the back yard a while back she put 17 round in or at it. Why 17? That is all the magazine in her 22 held.

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