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Sun, 15 September 2013 18:48  |
werewilfs
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Thankfully we were able to get off the highway at the new York new jersey border. Bill Bryant has already assisted us with a completely separate issue that delayed us 3 hours but now we are completely stranded.
We are talking to our emergency provider now. Does anyone out there have a rec for a shop in the new York new jersey area?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287 [message #222593 is a reply to message #222572] |
Sun, 15 September 2013 20:20  |
werewilfs
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So the towing company recommended by Ken has a full mailbox and is not taking any messages.
Mechanics Plus in Quakertown, PA. Phone # I have is 215-536-3151
-----Original Message-----
From: Jared & Stefanie Kohl
Sent: 9/15/2013 20:09
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287
Onan the barbarian will not start. Bill Bryant already threw that suggestion out.
Trying now to get Allstate to get us towed to Ken Frey's. Its 100 miles from here. Most likely we are camping here in this parking lot for the night.
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From: gene Fisher
Sent: 9/15/2013 19:58
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287
you can drive on with the onan running the house charger
if you have a combiner o n, it is all done
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/combiner-to-diode-isolator/p26973-10-minute-combiner-ins.html
if not-- put a jumper wire from the 2 outside posts of the isolator and
you can drive on, -not stuck-
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Jared & Stefanie Kohl
<vacougfan@yahoo.com>wrote:
> Thankfully we were able to get off the highway at the new York new jersey
> border. Bill Bryant has already assisted us with a completely separate
> issue that delayed us 3 hours but now we are completely stranded.
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> We are talking to our emergency provider now. Does anyone out there have
> a rec for a shop in the new York new jersey area?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287 [message #222613 is a reply to message #222572] |
Sun, 15 September 2013 22:39 |
werewilfs
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Got a pretty significant puddle of oil beneath the coach so pretty sure there is more happening here. We are now parked in a WalMart parking lot for the night.
Its the alternator belt. We also had a wiring problem earlier this trip that Bill Bryant was able to help us with so after being stuck on the side of the road for 3+ hours and now getting stuck overnight, we feel it best not to tempt fate by just replacing the belt without getting other stuff looked at.
We have unlimited towing from Allstate and have been wanting to get some other things fixed on the coach anyways so we may as well just get it down to Ken's and get it over with.
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From: Ken Burton
Sent: 9/15/2013 22:57
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287
Which belt is broke AC, Power steering, or alternator?
Rather than towing why not just replace the broken one on the spot where it is?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287 [message #222626 is a reply to message #222613] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 03:17 |
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The belt most likely whipped the trans tube off. These belts rip the hell out of anything it hits.
I lost air conditoiner wires with my dodge van once.
Mickey anaheim ca. 77 playa palm. :-)
check fluid on ground as water, trans, brake or oil. be sure and use correct fluid when replaced.
water pump could leak but at speed some times does not leak and can run 100 miles before it leaks while driving.
I would suppose the trans hose was hit and slashed below. My two cents.
On Sep 15, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Jared & Stefanie Kohl wrote:
> Got a pretty significant puddle of oil beneath the coach so pretty sure there is more happening here. We are now parked in a WalMart parking lot for the night.
>
> Its the alternator belt. We also had a wiring problem earlier this trip that Bill Bryant was able to help us with so after being stuck on the side of the road for 3+ hours and now getting stuck overnight, we feel it best not to tempt fate by just replacing the belt without getting other stuff looked at.
>
> We have unlimited towing from Allstate and have been wanting to get some other things fixed on the coach anyways so we may as well just get it down to Ken's and get it over with.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Burton
> Sent: 9/15/2013 22:57
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287
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> Which belt is broke AC, Power steering, or alternator?
>
> Rather than towing why not just replace the broken one on the spot where it is?
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287 [message #222627 is a reply to message #222613] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 03:24 |
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You can buy two 6 volt batteries if you need them and put a jumper cable through the passenger window to the driving battery
and tape down the hood door on it and drive in the day time at least 50 miles if you keep only spark going to the jump.
I have driven a long way with this mode. Jumper cables from battery on the floor in front of passenger seat out window
to regular battery. This works well but not at night, keep apollo 11 systems, all down with duck tape. Mickey :-)
Go trade your old battery in at walmart for free if you bought it there. This will get you a long way. if you keep trading them
in from one walmart to another. Well, it could happen?
On Sep 15, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Jared & Stefanie Kohl wrote:
> Got a pretty significant puddle of oil beneath the coach so pretty sure there is more happening here. We are now parked in a WalMart parking lot for the night.
>
> Its the alternator belt. We also had a wiring problem earlier this trip that Bill Bryant was able to help us with so after being stuck on the side of the road for 3+ hours and now getting stuck overnight, we feel it best not to tempt fate by just replacing the belt without getting other stuff looked at.
>
> We have unlimited towing from Allstate and have been wanting to get some other things fixed on the coach anyways so we may as well just get it down to Ken's and get it over with.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Burton
> Sent: 9/15/2013 22:57
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287
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> Which belt is broke AC, Power steering, or alternator?
>
> Rather than towing why not just replace the broken one on the spot where it is?
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287 [message #222639 is a reply to message #222620] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 08:15 |
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Three years ago on our way to Tucson with 2 other GMC coaches, one of our group threw an Alt. belt on I-10 in New Mexico. We stopped to make the repair at one of the exits. While we were on the side of the road at the exit to change the belt another GMC pulled up next to the group. It was two ladies going from Florida to San Diego. They stopped because they had never seen a group of GMC on the road together. We visited for a short time and found that their Alternator had failed, they had called Jim B as they had their coach serviced there. He told them to start their generator, make sure that the charger/inverter was plugged in and put a jumper across the solenoid in the front. They had about 400 miles running this way and were heading to Tucson to a place that Jim B suggested to get it fixed which was at least another 300 miles down the road. These ladies liked to roll as they went by us on I-10 doing 75+mph, never saw them again on the way to Tucson.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287 [message #222645 is a reply to message #222572] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 08:50 |
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Of course this requires a working Onan. Hadn't really been high on the priority list to fix but it's getting bumped up the list now.
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From: John Wright
Sent: 9/16/2013 9:15
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287
Three years ago on our way to Tucson with 2 other GMC coaches, one of our group threw an Alt. belt on I-10 in New Mexico. We stopped to make the repair at one of the exits. While we were on the side of the road at the exit to change the belt another GMC pulled up next to the group. It was two ladies going from Florida to San Diego. They stopped because they had never seen a group of GMC on the road together. We visited for a short time and found that their Alternator had failed, they had called Jim B as they had their coach serviced there. He told them to start their generator, make sure that the charger/inverter was plugged in and put a jumper across the solenoid in the front. They had about 400 miles running this way and were heading to Tucson to a place that Jim B suggested to get it fixed which was at least another 300 miles down the road. These ladies liked to roll as they went by us on I-10 doing 75+mph, never saw them again on the way to Tucson.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287 [message #222653 is a reply to message #222639] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 09:49 |
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I keep forgetting we (on gmcnet) are a small part of the community
13,000 built
8000 still on the road
300 on gmc net
400 at the coos bay rally,
just need to stay visible
you are doing a great job
gene
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:15 AM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
> Three years ago on our way to Tucson with 2 other GMC coaches, one of our
> group threw an Alt. belt on I-10 in New Mexico. We stopped to make the
> repair at one of the exits. While we were on the side of the road at the
> exit to change the belt another GMC pulled up next to the group. It was
> two ladies going from Florida to San Diego. They stopped because they had
> never seen a group of GMC on the road together. We visited for a short
> time and found that their Alternator had failed, they had called Jim B as
> they had their coach serviced there. He told them to start their
> generator, make sure that the charger/inverter was plugged in and put a
> jumper across the solenoid in the front. They had about 400 miles running
> this way and were heading to Tucson to a place that Jim B suggested to get
> it fixed which was at least another 300 miles down the road. These ladies
> liked to roll as they went by us on I-10 doing 75+mph, never saw them again
> on the way to Tucson.
>
> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> 75 Avion
> Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287 [message #222666 is a reply to message #222572] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 10:44 |
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I just would like to point out, that I would recommend connecting from a 12volt source, to the "12V trigger" on the boost solenoid.
by "jumpering accross" a wire on that solenoid. you could be pulling too many amps, and if you do not use the right conductor size, that jumper could burn up.
I know I used a #10 one time for a short time, and it got hot. I have a 60 amp progressive converter. and with a dead engine/start battery, I think the rate of charge that battery was taking from the coach side was the issue.
I then engaged the solenoid by jumpering 12V from the coach side, to the terminal that engaged the solenoid. and was find. that let the solenoid handle the higher amps.
I now have a dedicated #10 jumper zip tied up inside that area, just for that need. even though with rebuilt alternator, new boost solenoid, isolator and the like, I hope not to need it.
I also agree, that if you get the battery charged up on the engine side. you can run a long ways during daylight hours with no charge from the alternator.
just found out just over a week ago, you can go 70 miles even with the lights on before the engine dies.
Jon Roche
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St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287 [message #222672 is a reply to message #222666] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 10:54 |
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Dan writes:
If you guys have 400 coaches, see if someone can take a a photo from the
air. That would be neat.
There will be around 130 coaches at the GMCWS rally from what I hear from
Jerry Work.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Jon Roche <lqqkatjon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I just would like to point out, that I would recommend connecting from a
> 12volt source, to the "12V trigger" on the boost solenoid.
>
> by "jumpering accross" a wire on that solenoid. you could be pulling too
> many amps, and if you do not use the right conductor size, that jumper
> could burn up.
>
> I know I used a #10 one time for a short time, and it got hot. I have a
> 60 amp progressive converter. and with a dead engine/start battery, I
> think the rate of charge that battery was taking from the coach side was
> the issue.
>
> I then engaged the solenoid by jumpering 12V from the coach side, to the
> terminal that engaged the solenoid. and was find. that let the solenoid
> handle the higher amps.
>
> I now have a dedicated #10 jumper zip tied up inside that area, just for
> that need. even though with rebuilt alternator, new boost solenoid,
> isolator and the like, I hope not to need it.
>
> I also agree, that if you get the battery charged up on the engine side.
> you can run a long ways during daylight hours with no charge from the
> alternator.
>
> just found out just over a week ago, you can go 70 miles even with the
> lights on before the engine dies.
>
>
> --
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Threw the alternator belt on i-87 north of 287 [message #222702 is a reply to message #222686] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 14:17 |
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| k2gkk wrote on Mon, 16 September 2013 10:14 |
When my coach threw a belt on way home from Shawnee, it took all the others with it; don't know which went first.
No coolant circulation led to rapid (maybe a mile) overheating and engine knocking.
Still don't know if permanent damage done to engine.
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