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Fri, 06 September 2013 18:59  |
JohnL455
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I needed a 1-5/16" socket for my Pitman nut and easiest out was a trip to Horror Fright. Not like me to buy off shore junk, but this Jumbo sized socket kit with case will only get used once in a blue moon. The 3/4" drive ratchet, you would think, would be beefy, but you can spin past the teeth by hand with a socket on it. A great way to bash your knuckles when it skips teeth under force. I have to take it back. The casting on the sockets is so 'China looking' the center holes are not on center. I better straighten up to my senses before I walk into a Toyota or Kia dealer or somthing. I did get the nut off with the 3/4" breaker bar instead. I'm replacing the intermediate shaft and box now, but there is more slop in the new refirbed upper CV ball setup than the old one I took out so I'm going to put the old one on the new shaft. First have to clean an synpower the old one. Was packed with Mobile one from when I did it after just getting the coach (was really dirty when I bought it with bad boot) and I had no bind, so I think it will be fine.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Harbor Freight China junk [message #221384 is a reply to message #221376] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 20:03  |
GeorgeRud
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For shame! And with a Farm and Fleet and Menard's within spitting distance. Harbor Freight is something you do when you need a really useless tool, but not anything you actually need to rely on.
Hope the rest of the project goes smoother for you!
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: Harbor Freight China junk [message #221394 is a reply to message #221376] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 21:13 |
JohnL455
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And there was a Sears I could have bought only the one piece. Dan, we are taking a trip but not to Branson as the time frame conflicts. Going to AZ to see a group of friends. A long trip so going over all the mechanicals now. Some Applied stuff should arive Monday I ordered yesterday.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight China junk [message #221395 is a reply to message #221376] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 21:10 |
jhbridges
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I have a decent 3/4 drive breaker bar, use it for large recalcitrant fasteners. Old drum brake axle nuts, etc. I usually buy a six point socket for whatever size fastener I'm after, so the collection isn't complete.
--johnny
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On Fri, 9/6/13, John R. Lebetski <gransport@aol.com> wrote:
Subject: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight China junk
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Friday, September 6, 2013, 11:59 PM
I needed a 1-5/16" socket for my Pitman nut and easiest out
was a trip to Horror Fright. Not like me to buy off
shore junk, but this Jumbo sized socket kit with case will
only get used once in a blue moon. The 3/4" drive ratchet,
you would think, would be beefy, but you can spin past the
teeth by hand with a socket on it. A great way to bash your
knuckles when it skips teeth under force. I have to take it
back. The casting on the sockets is so 'China looking'
the center holes are not on center. I better
straighten up to my senses before I walk into a Toyota or
Kia dealer or somthing. I did get the nut off with the
3/4" breaker bar instead. I'm replacing the
intermediate shaft and box now, but there is more slop in
the new refirbed upper CV ball setup than the old one I took
out so I'm going to put the old one on the new shaft.
First have to clean an synpower the old one. Was
packed with Mobile one from when I did it after just getting
the coach (was really dirty when I
bought it with bad boot) and I had no bind, so I think it
will be fine.
--
John Lebetski
Chicago, IL
77 Eleganza II
Source America First
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| Re: Harbor Freight China junk [message #221404 is a reply to message #221376] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 21:56 |
JohnL455
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I'm glad they don't build commercial aircraft. Though Boeing has teams that travel the world trying to stop fake Chinese knockoff parts in fake Boeing packaging.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Harbor Freight China junk [message #221412 is a reply to message #221376] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 22:46 |
Craig Lechowicz
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John,
I didn't do too bad hunting down a used 3/4" drive set on e-Bay. Ended up sort of getting two different half sets and have all the sizes covered between them, with some extras. Mostly Craftsmen with some SK and Proto. Takes a little patience, but I've been doing a lot of e-bay tool hunting lately to have some less common stuff that works well on the GMC, so I don't have to keep packing and un-packing them.
Craig Lechowicz
'77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight China junk [message #221415 is a reply to message #221412] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 23:13 |
Ken Henderson
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You know what we REALLY need? A list of every wrench size needed for the
GMC. Why carry a "complete" set if there's nowhere to use 1/3 of it?
At Bean Station one year I put out a notebook and a request that every one
list the tools they used during their projects there. That was about as
successful as my attempt to get me to do it in my shop. :-(
Of course, size ain't everything. When I was replacing the exhaust
manifold gasket at Hill AFB on Wednesday, ONLY an 9/16 box end wrench would
fit the rearmost bolt. I had sockets, open end and ratchet box end
wrenches, adjustable wrenches, pliers of several configurations, including
locking -- but no fixed box. I wound up at the base exchange buying an
"All Trade" set of SAE and metric combination wrenches for $30.00. That
did the job. But what the heck am I going to do with all those
multi-redundant wrenches when I get home??? I don't even have a wall peg
free to hang them on. One consolation: I think the 13/32" I spotted in
the new set will be my first of that size (or maybe not -- there may be one
among my Whitworths).
We still need that list so I can purge the 27/64ths from my mobile box.
Ken H.
On Sep 6, 2013 9:47 PM, "Craig Lechowicz" <craig.lechowicz@sbcglobal.net>
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> John,
> I didn't do too bad hunting down a used 3/4" drive set on e-Bay. Ended up
> sort of getting two different half sets and have all the sizes covered
> between them, with some extras. Mostly Craftsmen with some SK and Proto.
> Takes a little patience, but I've been doing a lot of e-bay tool hunting
> lately to have some less common stuff that works well on the GMC, so I
> don't have to keep packing and un-packing them.
> --
> Craig Lechowicz
> '77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight China junk [message #221467 is a reply to message #221376] |
Sat, 07 September 2013 09:14 |
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USAussie
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John,
Harbor Freight hand tools carry a life time warranty so just take it back. Bring the whole kit as they might not exchange just one
piece out of the kit.
Inspect the replacement carefully to make sure it works properly.
As far as the socket being a bit off center, who cards, you're not going to spinning it at high rpm are you? ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of John R. Lebetski
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 6:59 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight China junk
I needed a 1-5/16" socket for my Pitman nut and easiest out was a trip to Horror Fright. Not like me to buy off shore junk, but
this Jumbo sized socket kit with case will only get used once in a blue moon. The 3/4" drive ratchet, you would think, would be
beefy, but you can spin past the teeth by hand with a socket on it. A great way to bash your knuckles when it skips teeth under
force. I have to take it back. The casting on the sockets is so 'China looking' the center holes are not on center. I better
straighten up to my senses before I walk into a Toyota or Kia dealer or somthing. I did get the nut off with the 3/4" breaker bar
instead. I'm replacing the intermediate shaft and box now, but there is more slop in the new refirbed upper CV ball setup than the
old one I took out so I'm going to put the old one on the new shaft. First have to clean an synpower the old one. Was packed with
Mobile one from when I did it after just getting the coach (was really dirty when I
bought it with bad boot) and I had no bind, so I think it will be fine.
--
John Lebetski
Chicago, IL
77 Eleganza II
Source America First
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight China junk [message #221470 is a reply to message #221404] |
Sat, 07 September 2013 09:17 |
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USAussie
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John,
FYI the vertical stabilizer for Boeing 737 aircraft is built by the Xian Aircraft Factory in Xian, China. That's where the entombed
warriors are.
Regards,
Rob M.
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of John R. Lebetski
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:57 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight China junk
I'm glad they don't build commercial aircraft. Though Boeing has teams that travel the world trying to stop fake Chinese knockoff
parts in fake Boeing packaging.
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John Lebetski
Chicago, IL
77 Eleganza II
Source America First
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight China junk [message #221472 is a reply to message #221470] |
Sat, 07 September 2013 09:25 |
Jim Miller
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On Sep 7, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> FYI the vertical stabilizer for Boeing 737 aircraft is built by the Xian Aircraft Factory in Xian, China.
China is one of only a handful of nations that have successfully put objects into Earth orbit - an achievement which requires precision and the utmost level of engineering excellence. That is not to mention their demonstrated anti-satellite weapon systems, ICBMs, etc...
The Chinese tools at Harbor Freight are cheap because cheap is the primary specification provided by HF's purchasing department. They can certainly make things better (like the V-stab that Rob mentions) if the specifications call for it.
--Jim Miller
1977 Eleganza II
1977 Royale
Hamilton, OH
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| Re: Harbor Freight China junk [message #221565 is a reply to message #221376] |
Sat, 07 September 2013 21:39 |
JohnL455
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QC is hard with China. Final proto sign off is OK and then production run is substandard. Then they make more and sell on the side using your tooling.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Harbor Freight China junk [message #221576 is a reply to message #221376] |
Sat, 07 September 2013 23:33 |
Cadillackeeper
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I have a Harbor freight close by and I love having it there.I needed a rubber pipe wrench for a 4" PVC connector.I may never use it again but for real rubber and made in usa get out your wallet.All my proper tools are Snap On.But I do have a handful of chinese screwdrivers and channel locks that are disposable.
77 455 Elaganza II and 67 Animal, Built 500 Powered Eldo
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight China junk [message #221593 is a reply to message #221404] |
Sun, 08 September 2013 07:48 |
jhbridges
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Very interesting look... Crichton's 'Airframe'.
==johnny
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On Sat, 9/7/13, John R. Lebetski <gransport@aol.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight China junk
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Saturday, September 7, 2013, 2:56 AM
I'm glad they don't build commercial aircraft. Though Boeing
has teams that travel the world trying to stop fake Chinese
knockoff parts in fake Boeing packaging.
--
John Lebetski
Chicago, IL
77 Eleganza II
Source America First
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight China junk [message #221594 is a reply to message #221415] |
Sun, 08 September 2013 07:54 |
jhbridges
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Feel free to paw through my "Tool kit", the tools stored under the seats in my coach. If I work on it, I clean the tools and toss them under when I finish. If I need a tool, I get it, and then add to the collection.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode Norris
'76 palm beach
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On Sat, 9/7/13, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight China junk
To: "gmclist" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Saturday, September 7, 2013, 4:13 AM
You know what we REALLY
need? A list of every wrench size needed
for the
GMC. Why carry a "complete" set if there's nowhere to
use 1/3 of it?
At Bean Station one year I put out a notebook and a request
that every one
list the tools they used during their projects there.
That was about as
successful as my attempt to get me to do it in my
shop. :-(
Of course, size ain't everything. When I was replacing
the exhaust
manifold gasket at Hill AFB on Wednesday, ONLY an 9/16 box
end wrench would
fit the rearmost bolt. I had sockets, open end and
ratchet box end
wrenches, adjustable wrenches, pliers of several
configurations, including
locking -- but no fixed box. I wound up at the base
exchange buying an
"All Trade" set of SAE and metric combination wrenches for
$30.00. That
did the job. But what the heck am I going to do with
all those
multi-redundant wrenches when I get home??? I don't
even have a wall peg
free to hang them on. One consolation: I think
the 13/32" I spotted in
the new set will be my first of that size (or maybe not --
there may be one
among my Whitworths).
We still need that list so I can purge the 27/64ths from my
mobile box.
Ken H.
On Sep 6, 2013 9:47 PM, "Craig Lechowicz" <craig.lechowicz@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>
>
> John,
> I didn't do too bad hunting down a used 3/4" drive set
on e-Bay. Ended up
> sort of getting two different half sets and have all
the sizes covered
> between them, with some extras. Mostly Craftsmen
with some SK and Proto.
> Takes a little patience, but I've been doing a
lot of e-bay tool hunting
> lately to have some less common stuff that works well
on the GMC, so I
> don't have to keep packing and un-packing them.
> --
> Craig Lechowicz
> '77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
> _______________________________________________
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