| Honda take out seats install [message #221269] |
Thu, 05 September 2013 20:53  |
JohnL455
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I have a 77 EII and 2 Honda leather take out seats form Amana convention. What adaptor brackets do I need to install and have swivel clear side wall. Anyone have these fabricated or for sale? I don't want to try to figure out what someone else already has perfected.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Honda take out seats install [message #221350 is a reply to message #221269] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 14:32  |
JohnL455
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Thanks guys. Wondering if the unistrut was on top of the GMC base instead of under it, would that stop the clearance issues, requiring less cutting of the Unistrut? Would the seat be too high then?
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Honda take out seats install [message #221351 is a reply to message #221350] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 14:48 |
jknezek
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| JohnL455 wrote on Fri, 06 September 2013 15:32 |
Thanks guys. Wondering if the unistrut was on top of the GMC base instead of under it, would that stop the clearance issues, requiring less cutting of the Unistrut? Would the seat be too high then?
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I put the unistrut under. When I put it on top of the plate the seats felt too hight.
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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: Honda take out seats install [message #221354 is a reply to message #221351] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 15:38 |
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Speaking of Honda seats, anyone bring sets for sale to International? Honda vans are slim picking around Mississippi.
Tom, MS II
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| Re: Honda take out seats install [message #221355 is a reply to message #221351] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 15:49 |
C Boyd
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mine are under also. They are still to high for Cat. I plan to add bout 1 1/2' spacer between the struts and the seats to lower some more.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6390-honda-seat-lowering.html
| jknezek wrote on Fri, 06 September 2013 15:48 |
| JohnL455 wrote on Fri, 06 September 2013 15:32 |
Thanks guys. Wondering if the unistrut was on top of the GMC base instead of under it, would that stop the clearance issues, requiring less cutting of the Unistrut? Would the seat be too high then?
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I put the unistrut under. When I put it on top of the plate the seats felt too hight.
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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: Honda take out seats install [message #221374 is a reply to message #221279] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 18:43 |
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| A Hamilto wrote on Thu, 05 September 2013 20:39 |
Why the swivel is not in the center is beyond me. Very frustrating.
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The early model slant bases have the pivot in the center, but on these bases the Honda seats can't pivot at all because they hit the wall of the coach. I think that is why they went to the offset bases in the 76-78 coaches, to get more wall clearance.
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: Honda take out seats install [message #221381 is a reply to message #221374] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 19:28 |
A Hamilto
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| Otterwan wrote on Fri, 06 September 2013 18:43 |
| A Hamilto wrote on Thu, 05 September 2013 20:39 |
Why the swivel is not in the center is beyond me. Very frustrating.
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The early model slant bases have the pivot in the center, but on these bases the Honda seats can't pivot at all because they hit the wall of the coach. I think that is why they went to the offset bases in the 76-78 coaches, to get more wall clearance.
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They offset the swivel so far that the seats can only pivot 90 degrees one way without hitting something else. I wanted to make the cockpit seats part of the living area (when parked) by rotating them 180 degrees, but the offset makes the seats hit the rear dinette, or whatever is behind the cockpit seats, at any angle more than 90. I have a set of seat bases in the CanyonLands that don't have any offset, but I haven't measured them for height yet. If they are the right height, I might exchange the ones with the offset swivel with them. If I can muster the energy.
I would have used the slant bases I had, but I don't have the tools to do all the cutting and welding to make them work. They were 3" too tall for the Honda seats.
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| Re: Honda take out seats install [message #221981 is a reply to message #221269] |
Tue, 10 September 2013 18:01 |
JohnL455
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I'm a bit confused on this drilling /grinding out rivets on the honda seats to retain the Honda seat track. I took all the black mechanism off down to the bare silver Honda seat. I want to use and keep all stock the mechanism from the GMC for slide and rotate. Seems to me then you would have 2 sets of moving tracks if you keep the Honda stuff. Looks like I need to drill one more set of holes in the silver base of the Honda seats to hit the 11.5" mark but no rivets to remove this way. Am I missing something?
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Honda take out seats install [message #222117 is a reply to message #221269] |
Thu, 12 September 2013 08:00 |
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SeanKidd
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http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/canyon-lands-interior/p47369-buddy-seat.html
You can see what I did in this picture, honda seat retains factory (Honda) forward/aft adjuster, welded frame to original side swivel base with the pipe cut down so it just floats without the lock rubbing. It is a little tall. I'm 5'8" and its ok, wish it were 1/2" lower
I also cut the top off original slanted base and used it to back up the bolts under the floor
I have the original (GMC)seat sliders if anyone is interested.
Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
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| Re: Honda take out seats install [message #222214 is a reply to message #221269] |
Thu, 12 September 2013 22:47 |
JohnL455
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I removed ALL the Honda hardware. Drilled one hole forward to get 11.5 from center rear hole. Cut plastic on outboard side if Honda seat to clear GMC rotation lock lever. Unistrut is open side up so GMC studs are long enough. Greased the GMC pipe mechanism and put sticky velcro on the rotation stop tab so no play or clunky slop. Height and swivel great.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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