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jturbo is currently offline  jturbo   United States
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Just asking what type brand and weight of oil most people are using.



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Re: Oil What are most people using [message #220827 is a reply to message #220825] Mon, 02 September 2013 03:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Let the Oil Wars begin!

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Re: Oil What are most people using [message #220838 is a reply to message #220825] Mon, 02 September 2013 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rotella SAE 30



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Re: Oil What are most people using [message #220839 is a reply to message #220838] Mon, 02 September 2013 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unless you have a recently rebuilt engine, run whatever reputable oil you want. Odds are, over the 35-40 year lifetime of your coach, it has run happily on many brands and formulations of oil. If it is still running well, odds are oil isn't going to be your problem...

The most recent reduced zinc additive in oil came about almost 10 years ago, 2004, so unless you or your PO have been doing something special since then, the engine has most likely run happily on current formulations.

Personally, I use a Mobile1 10w40 high mileage synthetic since I use it in my other 100K mile vehicle. It helps me keep only 1 oil in the house and that is just fine by me. I do add cam shield, but I'm almost positive that it is unnecessary in my older broken in engine. And I'm certain my PO did nothing of the sort and the engine is still running well.

You'll get lots of responses, and all I can say about that is if we are using a variety of brands and advocating and doing well with each one, it probably doesn't matter too much which one you go with.


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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: [GMCnet] Oil What are most people using [message #220840 is a reply to message #220838] Mon, 02 September 2013 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Oil What are most people using [message #220842 is a reply to message #220825] Mon, 02 September 2013 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mobil-1 15W50
Designed for flat tappet pre-catalytic converter engines.

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Accel 10w40 @ Walmart $2.50 qt. been using since I rebuilt this engine 55,000 miles ago changed every 3000 miles. Designed for pre 88 engines high ZDDP

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77 Royale; QuadBag,Manny OneTon,Honda EV4010, FITech
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Re: [GMCnet] Oil What are most people using [message #220851 is a reply to message #220825] Mon, 02 September 2013 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Delo or Rotunda 15-40, whichever is on sale at the time.

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Subject: [GMCnet] Oil What are most people using
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Date: Monday, September 2, 2013, 7:13 AM



Just asking what type brand and weight of oil most people
are using.


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Re: Oil What are most people using [message #220859 is a reply to message #220825] Mon, 02 September 2013 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jturbo wrote on Mon, 02 September 2013 00:13

Just asking what type brand and weight of oil most people are using.





Valvoline VR-1 20W50


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Re: Oil What are most people using - best for you.. [message #220872 is a reply to message #220859] Mon, 02 September 2013 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There has been a lot of discussion here and there are some serious truisms to handle.

Synthetics don't break down with heat as easily as most dino oil.
- Our engines seldom run into that range unless you are towing and/or mountain climbing. (Or, driving your Cadillac twin turbo at 80MPH.)

Synthetics do form glass-hard deposits in the combustion chamber if the engine is consuming lube oil at much of any rate (like more than 1 quart per K-mile). This is known, but the actual calibration is uncertain. So, if you are headed for a rebuild, stay with dino.

Fact, synthetics are twice or triple the cost of good dino. ROI is still uncertain.

The requirement for extreme pressure anti-wear additive is a know fact in the break-in of a flat tappet engine. The requirement after break-in is uncertain. I have no hard data here, only anecdotal, but I like it.

So,
If you have a broken-in engine, you are pretty safe running any good oil.
If you have an engine that requires frequent lube oil topping off, stay away from synthetics.
If you have an engine that uses little oil and are paranoid, then synthetics are comforting.

Matt - the dyno lab guy


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Re: Oil What are most people using [message #220874 is a reply to message #220825] Mon, 02 September 2013 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jturbo wrote on Mon, 02 September 2013 02:13

Just asking what type brand and weight of oil most people are using.
If Emery Stora contributes to this thread, heed what he says.

NEVER use 5WXX unless you are in subzero temperatures all year long OR you have an engine rebuilt to closer tolerances and the builder recommends it.

Emery and others use 15WXX because the viscosity enhancers are more durable (or something like that).

I accept Emery's analysis and still choose to take my chances with 10W30 because 10 weight oil at room temperature is the ideal thickness for that vintage engine and it remains about the same thickness throughout the operating temperature range. IMHO, 15WXX is just a bit thick for anywhere except the desert Southwest in the Summer. Be reminded that Emery knows his stuff and I am reckless.

NEVER use 20WXX unless you drive in temperatures above 110F all year long (or it is running low and you need to top off and that's all you can find).
Re: Oil What are most people using [message #220901 is a reply to message #220874] Mon, 02 September 2013 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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15w40 rotella in 2.5 gal from autozone.

Todd Owner of a 1976 Eleganza II 26’ other toys: 93 Vette 84 Goldwing and gone but not forgotten 72 CB750 Chopper 96 Caprice Classic 34 Ford roadster 94 Fleetwood
Re: Oil What are most people using [message #220945 is a reply to message #220825] Mon, 02 September 2013 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMCNUSA is currently offline  GMCNUSA   United States
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Amsoil Hot Rod oil it has extra ZDDP and anti rust additives for long storage. My engine builder says it is excellent.

Larry Dilk
Indianapolis, IN
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Patterson 455,Turbo City TBI, Just LOVE It!
Re: Oil What are most people using [message #220947 is a reply to message #220825] Mon, 02 September 2013 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ernest Dankert is currently offline  Ernest Dankert   United States
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Amsoil 10-40 signature with amsoil oil and air filters.
Also amsoil transmission and gear oil for differential.
Amsoil chassis grease for bearings and bogies.


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Re: Oil What are most people using [message #220964 is a reply to message #220947] Mon, 02 September 2013 22:00 Go to previous message
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Mobil 1 10W-30.

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