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Sat, 31 August 2013 09:57  |
mshahn
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We just purchased our motorhome. Many things, like the stove and shower, have never been used. Can anyone tell me what the secret is to using the shower? Tank is full, sink on & stopper pulled. Help!
Shelby
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220632 is a reply to message #220627] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 10:38  |
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Shelby,
Does your bath look like this? Standard wet bath! Now look at the end of the faucet that the water comes out of and there is a round knob. It should pull out towards you and the water will come out the shower head. Be sure to put the shower head in the sink when testing. It may be stuck with corrosion and you may need to take it apart and clean and grease the orings inside. There is a little bolt or screw on the end with the knob. Be sure and put a rag in the bottom of the sink to catch anything that you might drop as if it goes down the hole, well you get the idea.
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1977-bath/p37071-img-00033.html>
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On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Shelby Hahn <countryhrt12@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We just purchased our motorhome. Many things, like the stove and shower, have never been used. Can anyone tell me what the secret is to using the shower? Tank is full, sink on & stopper pulled. Help!
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> Shelby
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220633 is a reply to message #220627] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 10:42 |
Dennis S
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[quote title=mshahn wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 09:57]We just purchased our motorhome. Many things, like the stove and shower, have never been used. Can anyone tell me what the secret is to using the shower? Tank is full, sink on & stopper pulled. Help!
Shelby
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Shelby
Welcome to the net!
Do you have water at the sink? To have pressure you must be connected to city water or have your house water pump on.
By stopper, do you mean the diverter in the end of the faucet?
Does your shower head have a button or switch to turn the water on/off?
Dennis
Dennis S
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220654 is a reply to message #220627] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 12:06 |
mshahn
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Yes, standard wet bath. Valve on faucet is pulled out, pulls pretty easy, yet no water. Â Could there be a shut off somewhere?
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's"
On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:38 AM, John Wright wrote:
> Shelby,
> Does your bath look like this? Standard wet bath! Now look at the end of the faucet that the water comes out of and there is a round knob. It should pull out towards you and the water will come out the shower head. Be sure to put the shower head in the sink when testing. It may be stuck with corrosion and you may need to take it apart and clean and grease the orings inside. There is a little bolt or screw on the end with the knob. Be sure and put a rag in the bottom of the sink to catch anything that you might drop as if it goes down the hole, well you get the idea.
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> <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1977-bath/p37071-img-00033.html>
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> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> 75 Avion
> Michigan
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AND, if the valve that is in the shower head leaks or doesn't work you can easily add one of these.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/shower-shutoff-valves/p34281-push-button-valve.html
I have been using the push button one for several years.
It also works well to throttle down the flow or temporary shutting it off when showering without having to fiddle with the faucet between soaping down and rinsing.
Emery Stora
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220655 is a reply to message #220627] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 12:08 |
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Yes, tank is full, pump is on, diverter valve is pulled & switch on shower head is on....still no water.
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Subject: Re: 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's"
[quote title=mshahn wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 09:57]We just purchased our motorhome. Many things, like the stove and shower, have never been used. Can anyone tell me what the secret is to using the shower? Tank is full, sink on & stopper pulled. Help!
Shelby
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Shelby
Welcome to the net!
Do you have water at the sink? To have pressure you must be connected to city water or have your house water pump on.
By stopper, do you mean the diverter in the end of the faucet?
Does your shower head have a button or switch to turn the water on/off?
Dennis
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220656 is a reply to message #220655] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 12:12 |
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My dumb question -- but you do have the water turned on and running into the sink when you pull out the diverter?
Does the water flowing into the sink stop?
Dennis
[quote title=mshahn wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 12:08]Yes, tank is full, pump is on, diverter valve is pulled & switch on shower head is on....still no water.
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From: Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's"
| mshahn wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 09:57 |
We just purchased our motorhome. Many things, like the stove and shower, have never been used. Can anyone tell me what the secret is to using the shower? Tank is full, sink on & stopper pulled. Help!
Shelby
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Shelby
Welcome to the net!
Do you have water at the sink? To have pressure you must be connected to city water or have your house water pump on.
By stopper, do you mean the diverter in the end of the faucet?
Does your shower head have a button or switch to turn the water on/off?
Dennis
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73 Painted Desert 230
Germantown, TN
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220668 is a reply to message #220627] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 13:08 |
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Just to be perfectly clear, IF you have water running in the sink and you pull the diverter, the shower should flow. If it doesn't there are several possible issues:
1- The O-rings in the diverter are missing. See this thread and the imbedded link to the photo site"
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=203103&rid=2555&srch=Faucet+with+diverter#msg_203103
With the water running, if you pull the diverter out the water going into the sink should STOP and the shower should start.
2- Shower head wand plugged up or non functional. Remove the wand and see if the shower flows. If it does the problem is in the wand. If it doesn't, the water line from the faucet to the shower is not flowing. A PO could have installed a valve or something.
I'm betting #1.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220670 is a reply to message #220627] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 13:11 |
mshahn
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Yep. Water flows until we pull the diverter.
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From: Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's"
My dumb question -- but you do have the water turned on and running into the sink when you pull out the diverter?
Does the water flowing into the sink stop?
Dennis
[quote title=mshahn wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 12:08]Yes, tank is full, pump is on, diverter valve is pulled & switch on shower head is on....still no water.
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Subject: Re:Â 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's"
mshahn wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 09:57
> We just purchased our motorhome. Many things, like the stove and shower, have never been used. Can anyone tell me what the secret is to using the shower? Tank is full, sink on & stopper pulled. Help!
>
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> Shelby
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> [/quote
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> Shelby
> Welcome to the net!
> Do you have water at the sink? To have pressure you must be connected to city water or have your house water pump on.
> By stopper, do you mean the diverter in the end of the faucet?
> Does your shower head have a button or switch to turn the water on/off?
>
> Dennis
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> 73 Painted Desert 230
> Germantown, TN
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220681 is a reply to message #220670] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 14:02 |
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Blocked line between diverter valve on faucet and shower nozzle?
Remove that line and put one or two feet of new line in its place.
Run that line to sink or toilet to check diverter operation.
Remove shower head from its hose and attempt to blow through hose.
Clean or replace shower head.
Reconnect cleared or replaced main hose and check system.
Take a shower and clean up now sweaty and stinky body!
Mac in OKC
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On Aug 31, 2013, at 13:11, "countryhrt12" <countryhrt12@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yep. Water flows until we pull the diverter.
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From: Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's"
My dumb question -- but you do have the water turned on and running into the sink when you pull out the diverter?
Does the water flowing into the sink stop?
Dennis
[quote title=mshahn wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 12:08]Yes, tank is full, pump is on, diverter valve is pulled & switch on shower head is on....still no water.
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From: Dennis Sexton <mailto:dennisfsexton@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's"
mshahn wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 09:57
> We just purchased our motorhome. Many things, like the stove and shower, have never been used. Can anyone tell me what the secret is to using the shower? Tank is full, sink on & stopper pulled. Help!
>
>
> Shelby
>
> [/quote
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> Shelby
> Welcome to the net!
> Do you have water at the sink? To have pressure you must be connected to city water or have your house water pump on.
> By stopper, do you mean the diverter in the end of the faucet?
> Does your shower head have a button or switch to turn the water on/off?
>
> Dennis
>
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> Dennis S
> 73 Painted Desert 230
> Germantown, TN
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220685 is a reply to message #220670] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 15:08 |
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Is there, by any chance, a check valve in the wall where the shower hose comes out? Mine makes noise, like there is, but I haven't investigated it (yet). If there IS a check valve, is it possible that it is plugged up or not operating properly?
That is where I would look next.
Carl Stouffer
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220687 is a reply to message #220673] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 15:13 |
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 11:26 |
Speaking if shower wands: The X-Birch came with a shutoff valve/wall mount
eye screwed between the hose and the wand. A couple of weeks ago the
female hose coupling broke off of the valve -- impractical to repair. The
wand now hangs by the hose through the towel ring.
Does anyone know a source for either a complete wand or just the
valve/mount? The wall portion of the mount has a vertical 5/16" pin onto
which the wand eye fits. Lowes & HD visits have been fruitless, but did
prove that the hose couplings are standard.
Ken H.
On Aug 31, 2013 9:47 AM, "Emery Stora" <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
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> AND, if the valve that is in the shower head leaks or doesn't work you
can easily add one of these.
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http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/shower-shutoff-valves/p34281-push-button-valve.html
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Ken,
We have one of these in our shower:
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/body-spa-rv-shower-kit-white/68324
Camping World's version comes with a shut off and a wall mount.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220689 is a reply to message #220668] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 15:24 |
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Water is running from sink, until diverter is pulled out...then no water from sink or shower nozzel. We'll take it apart and see what's up. Thanks.
Shelby
"Life is short, forgive quickly, kiss slowly, love truly, laugh uncontrollably, and never regret anything that made you smile."
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Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's"
Just to be perfectly clear, IF you have water running in the sink and you pull the diverter, the shower should flow. If it doesn't there are several possible issues:
1- The O-rings in the diverter are missing. See this thread and the imbedded link to the photo site"
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=203103&rid=2555&srch=Faucet+with+diverter#msg_203103
With the water running, if you pull the diverter out the water going into the sink should STOP and the shower should start.
2- Shower head wand plugged up or non functional. Remove the wand and see if the shower flows. If it does the problem is in the wand. If it doesn't, the water line from the faucet to the shower is not flowing. A PO could have installed a valve or something.
I'm betting #1.
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North Alabama, near Huntsville,
77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220691 is a reply to message #220689] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 15:48 |
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Shelby, before you take the faucet apart, I recommend you follow procedures I oulined in my message of 2:04 PM today.
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> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:24:32 -0700
> From: countryhrt12@yahoo.com
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> Water is running from sink, until diverter is pulled out...then no water from sink or shower nozzel. We'll take it apart and see what's up. Thanks.
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> Shelby
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> "Life is short, forgive quickly, kiss slowly, love truly, laugh uncontrollably, and never regret anything that made you smile."
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220693 is a reply to message #220685] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 16:31 |
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There is no check valve anywhere in the hose.
I would suggest unscrewing the shower head (handle) from the end of the hose and see if water comes through the hose. If not, then the problem is in the faucet. If there is then its in the shower head.
Emery Stora
On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
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> Is there, by any chance, a check valve in the wall where the shower hose comes out? Mine makes noise, like there is, but I haven't investigated it (yet). If there IS a check valve, is it possible that it is plugged up or not operating properly?
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> That is where I would look next.
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> '75 ex Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220699 is a reply to message #220693] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 18:03 |
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| emerystora wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 14:31 |
There is no check valve anywhere in the hose.
I would suggest unscrewing the shower head (handle) from the end of the hose and see if water comes through the hose. If not, then the problem is in the faucet. If there is then its in the shower head.
Emery Stora
On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
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> Is there, by any chance, a check valve in the wall where the shower hose comes out? Mine makes noise, like there is, but I haven't investigated it (yet). If there IS a check valve, is it possible that it is plugged up or not operating properly?
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> That is where I would look next.
> --
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> '75 ex Palm Beach
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That must be why none of the 'experts' mentioned it. 
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach - Shower "How-To's" [message #220701 is a reply to message #220627] |
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| mshahn wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 10:57 |
We just purchased our motorhome. Many things, like the stove and shower, have never been used. Can anyone tell me what the secret is to using the shower? Tank is full, sink on & stopper pulled. Help!
Shelby
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Shelby,
Welcome to the group/family/cult/asylum
You have gotten the whole line on how to make the shower work. It does work, I use mine relatively often when we are on the road. One does have to watch water use though.
I don't think our shower had been used either. We know the over had never been lit and only one of the stove burners had been hot.
Before I forget, while the people that write here have been vetted, there is nothing to prevent anybody else form reading what gets posted here and some of them are (at least were once) spambots. So, don't post a real @ddress or phone number. If you have to, just make sure it won't fit the template that spambots use.
Other thing.. important to you - actually.
Do a sig file that includes a name, something like a coach description and a geographic reference. This way, if one of your old friends that you just met here thinks he can help, he knows what he is dealing with (the year and model are important) and with a geo reference, he will know if he or someone else that can help is in striking range.
And Lastly.
You will soon find that your coach has a different place in your life than you expected. You may have owned it a year, but you are about to make a friend. I grew up a waterman, and I compare it to the way we relate to our boats. That being said, I felt it was important to welcome new owners as a new owner or vessel would be welcomed to a waterman community. So,
May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within her.
Welcome Shelby
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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