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Trip Report [message #219790] Sat, 24 August 2013 18:00 Go to next message
Joe Weir is currently offline  Joe Weir   United States
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The GMC is still in the driveway, where it was placed by the wrecker after its first excitement laden trip.

http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=204653&rid=3115#msg_204653

But as the latest developments read like a bad adventure, I'd thought I would share.

Adventures in Engine building:

Due to zealous code enforcement, I decided on a "hot swap" of a replacement with minimal "up on blocks" time, as opposed to pulling and rebuilding the existing engine. Found a 70 toronado 455 that was "stored inside" and "ran when parked"(as it turned out it must have been parked sometime during the Carter administration) for less than the cost of a core.

This should have been a clue, but I'm a hopeless optimist.

I recently scored a home built gmc engine hoist at an estate sale, and my brother is a mechanic, so we were set, right?

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6405/medium/image70.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/adventures/p50576-image70.html

The plan was to swap in a runner while the original was sent to JimB for rebuilding. However, the swap into the motorhome being what it is, my brother talked me into freshening up "the runner" first. The bores looked pretty good, no lip - just a little carbon.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6405/medium/image45.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/adventures/p49800-clean-cylinders-i-got-lucky.html

But it looks like the head gasket was leaking and the coked oil in the galley was impressive.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6405/medium/image46.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/adventures/p49801-valley-of-death.html

So the block, crank, pistons and heads get sent to the local machine shop to get checked out cleaned up and machined where necessary. Three and a half weeks later, we get it all back.
The honing reveals there is an edge but we are determined to use the stock pistons as this is still just a freshening project.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6405/medium/image69.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/adventures/p50574-image69.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com./photos/data/6405/medium/image66.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/adventures/p50571-image66.html

So we flip it over to install the crank and can't get the rod ends off. End up breaking a piston skirt. So, back it goes, and after much discussion it is decided that the skirt breaking was gods way of saving me from the folly of cheapness. Bore it 30 over and get new pistons.

Fast forward two weeks. Shop bores it 030 over and we have new pistons. Shop mounts the pistons on the rods and we try it again. Get the pistons in and rods on the crank and it will not turn without a 2' cheater bar. remove rod nuts and "1 pops off - bearing is crushed, WTF? My brother is stumped so he call a buddy who looks at it and proclaims the rods are on backwards. So, it all goes back to the machine shop.

Now might be a good time to remind the reader that while two middle age jokers might be able to afford the tools to monkey with an engine, it doesn't mean it is a good idea.

The machine shop looks at our handiwork and comes to the conclusion above. Luckily it is a friend of my brothers and he offers to complete the longblock assembly, and warranty it so that we are no longer a danger to ourselves. The "freshen-up" has turned into a full rebuild.

Unfortunately with football season upon us, and I still have to attend to the onan and the roof ac - I don't think we will be tailgating GMC-style this year.








76 Birchaven - "Wicked Mistress" - New engine, trans, alum radiator, brakes, Sully airbags, fuel lines, seats, adult beverage center... those Coachmen guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center... Columbia, SC.
Re: Trip Report [message #219802 is a reply to message #219790] Sat, 24 August 2013 20:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mojoe is currently offline  mojoe   United States
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Just doesn't get any better then this does it Joe... Laughing Laughing Laughing

Joe Kemenczky.. 1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles.. "When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain. .
Re: Trip Report [message #219835 is a reply to message #219802] Sun, 25 August 2013 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Joe Weir is currently offline  Joe Weir   United States
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Well, I kind of wanted to be ready for tailgating this year, but as much as I like tinkering it has been fun.

For instance, while the floor in the cockpit is fixed, it now appears (thanks to the recent monsoons) the leak is not. Thought I had found the source, but it looks like I will need to remove the front headliner. Now the coach had been re-done in the past and it has a newish car-style suspended headliner which will almost certainly be damaged with the front plastic removal. So in addition to the carpet in the cockpit, I will probably have to replace the headliner as well. The mission creep on projects is what drags me down. To be fair, I could have slapped the same carpet back in, but I hate to do things twice and I do not want the next captain to curse my name, so some of this angst is self inflicted.

I wish I had your space to spread out and rebuild it from scratch, like Odie. Once you gut the inside, a lot of tedious fixes like wiring and plumbing issues are a lot easier to address.

Have you decided on the 50 or 70" led tv yet? Pimp my RV is going to have nothing on you... Very Happy


76 Birchaven - "Wicked Mistress" - New engine, trans, alum radiator, brakes, Sully airbags, fuel lines, seats, adult beverage center... those Coachmen guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center... Columbia, SC.
Re: Trip Report [message #219858 is a reply to message #219835] Sun, 25 August 2013 09:19 Go to previous message
mojoe is currently offline  mojoe   United States
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Have not worked much on Odie this summer. Need to do the brakes and The brake fairy has not come by yet, and still waiting on the Odie work day! Don't let that motor lift slip away from you, You never know when it might be needed!
Do you have the motor back in yet? If you hurry you could still make this season even though the Gmc won't be finished.

Thinking at least 50" and a fireplace..


Joe Kemenczky.. 1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles.. "When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain. .
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