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Sun, 18 August 2013 18:08  |
Jeff Marten
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I just replaced the fridge vent cap. PO had a sheet metal cap installed as a closed cap, no ability to vent.
There was no screening on the opening, now I'm wondering if I should pull it and install some type of screen. I have some fiberglass window screen left over after rescreening some of the windows on the house. Will that work, or have too short a lifespan?
Thanks!
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fridge vent question [message #218976 is a reply to message #218957] |
Sun, 18 August 2013 19:15  |
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In the RV field,the window screen is too restrictive so they use a larger grid.
We sell lot of the new style strealin plastic vent with screen for around $26.00 .
Takes away the old camper look at the top.
Realize it is classic, but looks like someone threw it on.
My Ornamental taste.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fridge vent question [message #218980 is a reply to message #218976] |
Sun, 18 August 2013 19:29 |
Jeff Marten
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So I take it the screen is not to keep bugs out? If that's the case, I'll just leave it as-is.
Thanks!
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> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:15:34 -0500
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> In the RV field,the window screen is too restrictive so they use a larger grid.
> We sell lot of the new style strealin plastic vent with screen for around $26.00 .
> Takes away the old camper look at the top.
> Realize it is classic, but looks like someone threw it on.
> My Ornamental taste.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fridge vent question [message #218982 is a reply to message #218980] |
Sun, 18 August 2013 19:30 |
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No, but it will keep mice and similar critters. So I would think you would want to add it.
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On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Jeff Marten <jtmarten@msn.com> wrote:
> So I take it the screen is not to keep bugs out? If that's the case, I'll just leave it as-is.
> Thanks!
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>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> From: jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:15:34 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Fridge vent question
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>> In the RV field,the window screen is too restrictive so they use a larger grid.
>> We sell lot of the new style strealin plastic vent with screen for around $26.00 .
>> Takes away the old camper look at the top.
>> Realize it is classic, but looks like someone threw it on.
>> My Ornamental taste.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fridge vent question [message #218985 is a reply to message #218982] |
Sun, 18 August 2013 19:32 |
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Guess I'll find some larger grid screening material.
Thanks
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> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:30:42 -0600
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> No, but it will keep mice and similar critters. So I would think you would want to add it.
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> Emery Stora
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> On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Jeff Marten <jtmarten@msn.com> wrote:
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> > So I take it the screen is not to keep bugs out? If that's the case, I'll just leave it as-is.
> > Thanks!
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> >> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> >> From: jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> >> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:15:34 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Fridge vent question
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> >> In the RV field,the window screen is too restrictive so they use a larger grid.
> >> We sell lot of the new style strealin plastic vent with screen for around $26.00 .
> >> Takes away the old camper look at the top.
> >> Realize it is classic, but looks like someone threw it on.
> >> My Ornamental taste.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fridge vent question [message #219029 is a reply to message #218988] |
Sun, 18 August 2013 22:16 |
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Our roof vent kit comes with a screen/grill , so you need not go looking.
Lot of small animals have managed to net in there and some had fires in the
compartment.
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:
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> Jeff Marten wrote on Sun, 18 August 2013 19:32
> > Guess I'll find some larger grid screening material.
> > Thanks
> Bigger than window screen, but small enough to keep out wasps. Ask Robin
> Hood why...
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| Re: [GMCnet] fridge [message #231855 is a reply to message #218957] |
Sat, 30 November 2013 23:59 |
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this is really important info for used fridge i think, mick anaheim ca. 77 palm beach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2olgFfBEAuo
On Nov 30, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Mickey Space Ship Shuttle wrote:
> this video shows you how to test your 3 way fridge and see if the cooling system needs replaced. Very good video
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> to test yourself if the fridge needs replaced. Mick anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.
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> On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Mickey Space Ship Shuttle wrote:
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>> i am sold on carls design for the friidge. but if you do not use a big one this small one below
>> could save all the space for the big fridge for a full shower.
>>
>> bob has two fridges, one is a wine cooler. But if you have an ice maker and freezer with normal ice chest
>> to move in and out side for salads and fruits and drinks you may not eat as much meat and stuff that kills you
>> when you get older fast. The Norcold 641-3 is a great design and the freezer is only electric so if bobs was lpg it would work.
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>> The small freezer/fridge from bob de kruyff see picture uses 90 watts while running.
>> If you can find a freezer/fridge like this size but lgp and pull out top load that would be a good one.
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>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/refrigerator/p16729.html
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>> On Aug 4, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
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>>>
>>> Brian,
>>>
>>> I faced a similar dilemma a few years ago. My original Norcold worked okay, but the door seals leaked and it was getting pretty shabby overall. Like you, I tend to over think things and did a LOT of thinking and asking before I made the decision to go with a new Norcold 641-3. My concerns were that it would not maintain the cold temps when it was HOT outside, which is moat of the time in Southern AZ, and the others you mentioned about level operation, fire hazards, etc.
>>>
>>> I ended up installing the new 3-way according to the instructions in the installation manual, which you can download from Norcold's site. The new fridge works great! It cools down quickly, keeps the freezer items frozen and the fridge compartment cold, looks good, and is an overall BIG improvement. Best of all, I don't have to worry about running the batteries down or even running the generator while dry camping.
>>>
>>> The newer heat absorption refrigerators can be run slightly out of level without any ill effects. Check the Norcold website, it will tell you how much. That said, I generally try to have my coach as level as possible when it is on. They seem to have taken care of the fire issue, for the most part through a few design refinements, although I think that was mostly an issue with the larger units. It sips propane when operating in gas LP mode, and works very efficiently in AC mode. The 12 volt mode is useful only for keeping the fridge cold as you drive and is only heating the element at about half the rate as when on AC or LP.
>>>
>>> Just in case, I have a Fire Fight halon automatic extinguisher in the fridge compartment, mounted per Jim Bounds' instructions. I also have a couple of solar powered fans mounted in the top vent to help draw cool air over the coils. That set-up, coupled with my 140 watt solar charging system and I can dry camp for a long weekend, or longer, with NO problems. Last November, I spent 4 days at the Imperial Sand Dunes, near Yuma, and never fired up the Onan once. Even though we charged up cell phones, tablets, netbooks, etc. and used lights etc at night, my house batteries were always fully charged by mid to late afternoon.
>>>
>>> I don't think you'll have any regrets if you pull the plug and go with a heat absorption fridge, either a two way or a three way.
>>> --
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>>> '75 ex Palm Beach
>>> Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] fridge [message #231856 is a reply to message #218957] |
Sun, 01 December 2013 00:10 |
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sorry i forgot to put the video on here, the vid shows that you by pass the controls to the heating element that has to be
plugged directly into a 110 source and if the fridge gets cold in 24 hours it is good and the problem is only the controls.
You do not need a new fridge if this is so! also if you buy a new 110 heating element it has to be 325 watts or it will not work
many new ones are only 265 watts and will not work. They need to be tested before put in. I find the ford rv videos the best
for fridge information anywhere in the world. so far. also the drain tube can be stopped up and make the fridge 9 degrees warmer than normal. this is very important testing that can show how to not have to buy a new fridge if you want.
mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm playa
On Nov 30, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Mickey Space Ship Shuttle wrote:
> this video shows you how to test your 3 way fridge and see if the cooling system needs replaced. Very good video
>
> to test yourself if the fridge needs replaced. Mick anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.
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> On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Mickey Space Ship Shuttle wrote:
>
>>
>> i am sold on carls design for the friidge. but if you do not use a big one this small one below
>> could save all the space for the big fridge for a full shower.
>>
>> bob has two fridges, one is a wine cooler. But if you have an ice maker and freezer with normal ice chest
>> to move in and out side for salads and fruits and drinks you may not eat as much meat and stuff that kills you
>> when you get older fast. The Norcold 641-3 is a great design and the freezer is only electric so if bobs was lpg it would work.
>>
>>
>> The small freezer/fridge from bob de kruyff see picture uses 90 watts while running.
>> If you can find a freezer/fridge like this size but lgp and pull out top load that would be a good one.
>>
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/refrigerator/p16729.html
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian,
>>>
>>> I faced a similar dilemma a few years ago. My original Norcold worked okay, but the door seals leaked and it was getting pretty shabby overall. Like you, I tend to over think things and did a LOT of thinking and asking before I made the decision to go with a new Norcold 641-3. My concerns were that it would not maintain the cold temps when it was HOT outside, which is moat of the time in Southern AZ, and the others you mentioned about level operation, fire hazards, etc.
>>>
>>> I ended up installing the new 3-way according to the instructions in the installation manual, which you can download from Norcold's site. The new fridge works great! It cools down quickly, keeps the freezer items frozen and the fridge compartment cold, looks good, and is an overall BIG improvement. Best of all, I don't have to worry about running the batteries down or even running the generator while dry camping.
>>>
>>> The newer heat absorption refrigerators can be run slightly out of level without any ill effects. Check the Norcold website, it will tell you how much. That said, I generally try to have my coach as level as possible when it is on. They seem to have taken care of the fire issue, for the most part through a few design refinements, although I think that was mostly an issue with the larger units. It sips propane when operating in gas LP mode, and works very efficiently in AC mode. The 12 volt mode is useful only for keeping the fridge cold as you drive and is only heating the element at about half the rate as when on AC or LP.
>>>
>>> Just in case, I have a Fire Fight halon automatic extinguisher in the fridge compartment, mounted per Jim Bounds' instructions. I also have a couple of solar powered fans mounted in the top vent to help draw cool air over the coils. That set-up, coupled with my 140 watt solar charging system and I can dry camp for a long weekend, or longer, with NO problems. Last November, I spent 4 days at the Imperial Sand Dunes, near Yuma, and never fired up the Onan once. Even though we charged up cell phones, tablets, netbooks, etc. and used lights etc at night, my house batteries were always fully charged by mid to late afternoon.
>>>
>>> I don't think you'll have any regrets if you pull the plug and go with a heat absorption fridge, either a two way or a three way.
>>> --
>>> Carl S.
>>> '75 ex Palm Beach
>>> Tucson, AZ.
>>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fridge vent question [message #231857 is a reply to message #218957] |
Sun, 01 December 2013 01:07 |
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found a waspsnest under the hood Be sure to have a screen to keep them out!
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fridge vent question [message #231862 is a reply to message #231857] |
Sun, 01 December 2013 06:33 |
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In the South, Muddabbers will enter any unprotected opening in the coach that they can find. Paper wasps are also ever present. Robin's Barn Queen was a very bad and dangerous example of their abilities to get in and set up house.
One particular space they dearly love is the propane compartment. The gas oder seems to attract them. I used some window screening over the vents on the compartment door to slow them down. Worked for this Summer. I also used the same material for the generator compartment door. Too difficult to do the same for the engine compartment, just have to look before touching.
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