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Fri, 02 August 2013 01:55  |
cadelec
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Hello all
well we have bought our coach (Bobby Moore'S)
we pick it up on september 17th
then we will be heading to branson a
and then we need to be in baltimore around 9th october
where we will get the coach shipped home
i need to arrange for insurance so we can get tempory tags and drive it etc.
can anyone help with a east coast postal address that we can have mail forwarded to.
all we would ask you to do is to open the mail scan it and email us a copy
last time we used a friends address in california but as we are shipping out of Baltimore we need someone from the East to help
please PM me if you can Help
Trevor
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| Re: Maryland Address [message #216610 is a reply to message #216609] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 03:21  |
Ken Burton
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What is wrong with using your Australia address?
That is where you are transporting it to.
Finding insurance is the problem that I see.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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| Re: Maryland Address [message #216617 is a reply to message #216609] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 08:13 |
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| cadelec wrote on Fri, 02 August 2013 02:55 |
Hello all
well we have bought our coach (Bobby Moore'S)
we pick it up on september 17th
then we will be heading to branson a
and then we need to be in baltimore around 9th october
where we will get the coach shipped home
i need to arrange for insurance so we can get tempory tags and drive it etc.
can anyone help with a east coast postal address that we can have mail forwarded to.
all we would ask you to do is to open the mail scan it and email us a copy
last time we used a friends address in california but as we are shipping out of Baltimore we need someone from the East to help
please PM me if you can Help
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When I bought my coach I found I surname thru progressive had to pay a year up front and took forever to get my refund when I cancelled 4 months later IIRC I think it cost me around 1000$ for the year and they send me a refund of 5 or 600$ I used it for storage for a few months before I picked it up then used the coach for a a three week vacation while bringing back to Canada before the 30'day temp plates expired
John H. Bell
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| Re: Maryland Address [message #216620 is a reply to message #216609] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 08:54 |
Ken Burton
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If you just need a temporary mailbox try Mailboxes etc., or the UPS Store, or a PO Box at the US Post Office of your choice.
General delivery also still works but you will have to pickup your mail in person with an ID.
I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do so it is hard to make a recommendation.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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| Re: Maryland Address [message #216688 is a reply to message #216665] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 17:02 |
cadelec
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| djeffers wrote on Sat, 03 August 2013 04:20 |
Search on RV or Cruisers mail forwarding services.
We have used Escapees in Texas and have checked out a few others as well. They will forward your mail however you want and as often as you like.
Many of these services will scan, or read, or fax or whatever you want with your mail.
The cost is reasonable and they are professionally dependable.
Don and Susan Jeffers
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thanks Don i found some of these site last night this looks like what i need
Trevor
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| Re: [GMCnet] Maryland Address [message #216690 is a reply to message #216618] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 17:10 |
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 02 August 2013 23:35 |
Trevor,
Please clarify if you need an address on the east coast or in Baltimore, Maryland specifically?
Regards,
Rob M.
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I have only said maryland address as that is where we will be shipping the coach from. when doing me research on temp tags there is some references to these being issued for the new owner to drive from the place of purchase to the place of residence by a direct route. if we had an address in florida and we were heading in the other direction and got pulled up we might have extra problems .
we plan on after branson going down thru memphis, nashville, then skline drive up to baltimore, drop off the coach and then catch a train back to washington for a few days then fly home out of washington
so anywhere from maryland north we could probably get away with.
Trevor
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| Re: [GMCnet] Maryland Address [message #216726 is a reply to message #216690] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 22:37 |
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We live a short distance from Skyline Drive. You will love it! Especially in the fall.
Jared & Stefanie Kohl
Amissville, VA
1973 Painted Desert
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From: Trevor Pordage <junk@cadelec.com.au>
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Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Maryland Address
Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 02 August 2013 23:35
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> Please clarify if you need an address on the east coast or in Baltimore, Maryland specifically?
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
I have only said maryland address as that is where we will be shipping the coach from. when doing me research on temp tags there is some references to these being issued for the new owner to drive from the place of purchase to the place of residence by a direct route. if we had an address in florida and we were heading in the other direction and got pulled up we might have extra problems .
we plan on after branson going down thru memphis, nashville, then skline drive up to baltimore, drop off the coach and then catch a train back to washington for a few days then fly home out of washington
so anywhere from maryland north we could probably get away with.
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Trevor
Brisbane Australia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Maryland Address [message #216729 is a reply to message #216726] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 23:04 |
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I just bought a car in Maryland 3 weeks ago and tried to get a temp tag to drive it home to New Mexico. I called MD's DMV and was informed they don't issue temp tags. When I asked how I should go about getting it home they said I'd have to transport it back. Lucky for us the previous owner left the tags on the car so I could drive it home.
Hal
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| Re: [GMCnet] Maryland Address [message #216732 is a reply to message #216729] |
Sat, 03 August 2013 00:01 |
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| Hal StClair wrote on Fri, 02 August 2013 23:04 |
I just bought a car in Maryland 3 weeks ago and tried to get a temp tag to drive it home to New Mexico. I called MD's DMV and was informed they don't issue temp tags. When I asked how I should go about getting it home they said I'd have to transport it back. Lucky for us the previous owner left the tags on the car so I could drive it home.
Hal
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He is going the other direction. Illinois to Maryland. Illinois does issue a 30 day tag for transport out of state.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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| Re: [GMCnet] Maryland Address [message #216739 is a reply to message #216732] |
Sat, 03 August 2013 01:35 |
cadelec
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| Ken Burton wrote on Sat, 03 August 2013 15:01 |
| Hal StClair wrote on Fri, 02 August 2013 23:04 |
I just bought a car in Maryland 3 weeks ago and tried to get a temp tag to drive it home to New Mexico. I called MD's DMV and was informed they don't issue temp tags. When I asked how I should go about getting it home they said I'd have to transport it back. Lucky for us the previous owner left the tags on the car so I could drive it home.
Hal
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He is going the other direction. Illinois to Maryland. Illinois does issue a 30 day tag for transport out of state.
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i assume that if the previous owner leaves the tags on than that may make him responsible for a traffic violation or something i do.
if it was possible to leave the tags on the coach that would make my life a lot easier but from the sellers point of view i doubt he would agree.
Trevor
Brisbane Australia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Maryland Address [message #216749 is a reply to message #216739] |
Sat, 03 August 2013 06:35 |
Ken Burton
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| cadelec wrote on Sat, 03 August 2013 01:35 |
| Ken Burton wrote on Sat, 03 August 2013 15:01 |
| Hal StClair wrote on Fri, 02 August 2013 23:04 |
I just bought a car in Maryland 3 weeks ago and tried to get a temp tag to drive it home to New Mexico. I called MD's DMV and was informed they don't issue temp tags. When I asked how I should go about getting it home they said I'd have to transport it back. Lucky for us the previous owner left the tags on the car so I could drive it home.
Hal
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He is going the other direction. Illinois to Maryland. Illinois does issue a 30 day tag for transport out of state.
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i assume that if the previous owner leaves the tags on than that may make him responsible for a traffic violation or something i do.
if it was possible to leave the tags on the coach that would make my life a lot easier but from the sellers point of view i doubt he would agree.
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No
The driver is always responsible for any traffic violations no matter what license plate the vehicle has on it. In some states the license plate stays on the vehicle for the life of the vehicle no matter who owns it. California is one such state. In Illinois the license plate is suppose to be removed.
With all of that various differences from state to state there is no fixed rule for the country on how vehicle licensing is done on a sale. You bought that vehicle in Illinois so that is the rules you need to follow on licensing until a new vehicle title and license are filed in another state or country.
As an example I transported a Michigan vehicle to the west coast for export to Australia. The Michigan rule is you remove the license plate and transport it that way. I had to stop at a "port of entry" in Utah because it was an unregistered vehicle. I said I'm going from Michigan to California and the vehicle is being shipped to Australia from there. He looked on his list and said "Michigan requires no license plate. Have a nice day sir."
Just make sure you have a bill of sale filled out to you. You really do even need the signed title but it is OK to have it also. Some states require a notarized signed title. I believe Illinois does not require it but look it up for sure on the Secretary of State of Illinois web site.
On vehicles leaving the country for export, I believe you need to notify US Customs 48 or 24 hours in advance so they can run a computer check to make sure it is not stolen.
What you really need to be concerned about is that you have proof of insurance. All states require Proof of Insurance these days.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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| Re: [GMCnet] Maryland Address [message #216751 is a reply to message #216749] |
Sat, 03 August 2013 06:58 |
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[/quote]What you really need to be concerned about is that you have proof of insurance. All states require Proof of Insurance these days. [/quote]
Thanks ken I am in the process of arranging this now last time i used a mob called Safeco who let me pay by the month
Trevor
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| Re: [GMCnet] Maryland Address [message #216753 is a reply to message #216751] |
Sat, 03 August 2013 07:22 |
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Most insurance companies will let you pay by the month. I know State Farm does. Take out a 6 month policy and quit it when you leave the country. This way you will not be waiting for a refund check for your remaining months of a 6 month policy.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Maryland Address [message #216769 is a reply to message #216753] |
Sat, 03 August 2013 09:52 |
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Trevor,
Here's what I ran into when I bought Double Trouble from Mary Newhouse.
Her son drove it from Hagerstown, Maryland to Ken Frey's shop in Quakertown, Pennsylvania so he could go over it to make sure it was
road worthy after sitting for three years.
When I arrived to pick it up Ken and I went to the PA DMV only to find out I COULD NOT register it because I was NOT a PA resident.
I wanted a regular registration because Helen and I wanted to tour the east coast for a couple of months and PA / Texas temporary
permits wouldn't run that long.
I wound up registering it in my Cousin's name in NJ which brings up another subject, while the authorities will hold whoever is
driving a vehicle responsible for whatever happens the insurance agent that my Cousin used noted that lawyers will cast their net as
wide as possible if there is an accident.
Every year I purchase insurance from Progressive when I arrive for Double Trouble and cancel it when I leave. They don't seem to
mind me doing that. I also purchase insurance for the VW towd which I'm still building because rental car liability insurance
charges are NUTS! Avis wanted $13 per day for liability. I charge the cars on a Chase Master Card which covers the comprehensive
insurance.
Bottom line: you need to make 100% sure that you CAN get temporary registration in Illinois. I would recommend you get an
International Drivers License as well, the NRMA issued Helen one in NSW I believe RACQ issues them up in QLD.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Trevor Pordage
Thanks ken I am in the process of arranging this now last time i used a mob called Safeco who let me pay by the month
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Trevor
Brisbane Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Burton
Most insurance companies will let you pay by the month. I know State Farm does. Take out a 6 month policy and quit it when you
leave the country. This way you will not be waiting for a refund check for your remaining months of a 6 month policy.
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Ken
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From: Ken Burton
No
The driver is always responsible for any traffic violations no matter what license plate the vehicle has on it. In some states the
license plate stays on the vehicle for the life of the vehicle no matter who owns it. California is one such state. In Illinois
the license plate is suppose to be removed.
With all of that various differences from state to state there is no fixed rule for the country on how vehicle licensing is done on
a sale. You bought that vehicle in Illinois so that is the rules you need to follow on licensing until a new vehicle title and
license are filed in another state or country.
As an example I transported a Michigan vehicle to the west coast for export to Australia. The Michigan rule is you remove the
license plate and transport it that way. I had to stop at a "port of entry" in Utah because it was an unregistered vehicle. I
said I'm going from Michigan to California and the vehicle is being shipped to Australia from there. He looked on his list and said
"Michigan requires no license plate. Have a nice day sir."
Just make sure you have a bill of sale filled out to you. You really do even need the signed title but it is OK to have it also.
Some states require a notarized signed title. I believe Illinois does not require it but look it up for sure on the Secretary of
State of Illinois web site.
On vehicles leaving the country for export, I believe you need to notify US Customs 48 or 24 hours in advance so they can run a
computer check to make sure it is not stolen.
What you really need to be concerned about is that you have proof of insurance. All states require Proof of Insurance these days.
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Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Trevor Pordage
i assume that if the previous owner leaves the tags on than that may make him responsible for a traffic violation or something i do.
if it was possible to leave the tags on the coach that would make my life a lot easier but from the sellers point of view i doubt
he would agree.
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Trevor
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| Re: [GMCnet] Maryland Address [message #216789 is a reply to message #216769] |
Sat, 03 August 2013 13:16 |
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Sat, 03 August 2013 09:52 |
Trevor,
Bottom line: you need to make 100% sure that you CAN get temporary registration in Illinois. I would recommend you get an
International Drivers License as well, the NRMA issued Helen one in NSW I believe RACQ issues them up in QLD.
Regards,
Rob M.
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That is the purpose of the Illinois 30 day drive away temporary license. It is for NON-residents to drive a vehicle out of the state for titling elsewhere. Illinois also offers a 7 day temporary license for in-state (Illinois residents) to drive a vehicle to it's new home in the state. He does no want that one.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Maryland Address [message #216845 is a reply to message #216838] |
Sat, 03 August 2013 22:18 |
Ken Burton
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The answer is they are not registering it in Illinois. They are obtaining a non-resident permit to drive it for 30 days. The assumption is that they are driving the vehicle it to another location outside of the state.
As I said before the registration / drive away rules vary by state and this is only what they can do in Illinois.
Here is the wording for the Illinois S.O.S.
What are the types and uses of temporary permits, and how can they be obtained?
7/30 DAY INTRASTATE/INTERSTATE TRANSPORT PERMITS - A 7/30 –Day Intrastate/Interstate Transport Permit is a multiple permit for use as a non-resident, drive-away or intrastate permit. The permit allows out-of-state purchasers to operate newly purchased vehicles from the place of sale to a destination outside Illinois for 30 days. An intrastate/Interstate Transport Permit may also be issued for a non-registered first or second division vehicle for the purpose of moving it within the State of Illinois. Any second division vehicles operating on a Intrastate/Interstate Transport Permit may operate only on empty weight. Permits are available at Secretary of State facilities for $10 each.
The Secretary of State issues Intrastate/Interstate Transport Permits to licensed vehicle dealers, remittance agents and currency exchanges for $10 each. To purchase the permits, agents must complete and mail the 7/30-Day Vehicle Permit Application (VSD 193) along with the fees to the address on the application. Dealers selling vehicles to non-residents may issue permits and deliver vehicles at the dealer's Illinois place of business without incurring Illinois tax liability. Dealers are not authorized to transfer permits from one dealer to another. Each dealer is assigned numbered permits and is responsible for all permits issued to the dealership.
TEMPORARY REGISTRATION PERMIT (TRP) - A Temporary Registration Permit (TRP) to operate a newly acquired vehicle for which a valid registration application has been filed, along with the proper fees, is issued by Secretary of State facilities, licensed vehicle dealers, remittance agents and currency exchanges. An applicant must display a TRP in place of the license plate on the back of the vehicle until receiving Illinois license plates. A TRP expires 90 days after issuance. A TRP may be reissued if the license plates are not received before the expiration date of the permit; however, only a Secretary of State facility may issue a new TRP.
When submitting an Application for Vehicle Transaction(s) (VSD 190), the number of the TRP issued must be indicated on the application. Secretary of State personnel, dealers, remittance agents and currency exchanges are responsible for the safekeeping and proper issuance of each numbered TRP registered to them, and records must be maintained by the agent for the current year and the three previous years. Additional TRPs may be obtained by ordering online thru the TRP website.
PROOF OF TEMPORARY REGISTRATION FOR PRIVATE PARTY PURCHASE - A person who purchases a vehicle from a private party without the services of a dealer or remittance agent may legally operate the vehicle for a 24-hour period with possession of the title for transit to an agent or a Secretary of State facility. An Application for Vehicle Transaction(s) (VSD 190) will be filed by the Secretary of State and a Temporary Registration Permit (TRP) will be issued to be displayed in the same places as the rear license plate. In case of a vehicle purchased from a private party by an individual who has then applied for a title and registration without the service of a dealer, remittance agent or an agent of the Secretary of State's office; the vehicle may legally be operated if a copy of his/her completed, signed and verified* Application for Vehicle Transaction(s) (VSD 190) is displayed in the lower-right corner of the front windshield. The application must be folded and placed on the windshield in a manner that does not restrict the driver's vision.
*To verify the application, the applicant states in writing above his/her signature that (1) the application being displayed is a copy; (2) the original was mailed to the Secretary of State's office, and (3) the date it was mailed to the Secretary of State's office.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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