| Trany issue [message #216507] |
Thu, 01 August 2013 09:03  |
seven
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So I took it on myself to change the Trany oil and filter
In doing this I didn't push the filter up enough to make it seal
Took it for a drive and lost forward gears all three, Reverse still works, Went back in and the filter was loose pushed it into place with what I think is a positive seal but still no forward gears
Any Ideas ?
Can the filter vapor lock or is a check valve in the valve body the issue ?
Jay Fox
Calgary AB
73 Painted Desert (Turtle)
78 Transmode (Trailer Donor)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Trany issue [message #216512 is a reply to message #216511] |
Thu, 01 August 2013 09:22  |
seven
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only one right now pulling it out again today
thanks gene
Jay Fox
Calgary AB
73 Painted Desert (Turtle)
78 Transmode (Trailer Donor)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Trany issue [message #216607 is a reply to message #216527] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 01:15 |
jimk
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We purchase over 20 filter per Month, but in the last 3 month, the diameter
of the tube has been small to the point we had to return 70%.
Great quality from all the big name including wix.
The Chinese think they can send over crap as the major manufactures are not
checking them out.
We are resorting to purchasing from even retailers to find the correct size
pipe.
We might resort to purchasing Orings which will make these work.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:13 AM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
> Jay,
> What part# filter did you install. There are only a few that work well in
> the transmission. One would be an ATP B-40 as recommended by Jim B. I
> still have a couple of the AC TF-169 factory filters. Your filter should
> look something like this.
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> <
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p36766-ac-transmission-filter.html
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> <
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p36765-ac-transmission-filter.html
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> You can see how the pick up is compared to the one that you have.
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> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> 75 Avion
> Michigan
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> On Aug 1, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Jay Fox <amra@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> > only one right now pulling it out again today
> > thanks gene
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> > Jay Fox
> > Calgary AB
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> > 73 Painted Desert (Turtle)
> > 73 23 Footer (Little One)
> > 78 Transmode (Trailer Donor)
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| Re: Trany issue [message #216615 is a reply to message #216507] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 07:57 |
seven
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Well Hard lesson learned I did get one of these filters it did release and has seemed to fry my clutches no forward gears,
I phoned Manny he told me what I didn't want to hear.
Just about to leave on a two week Racecation now its stranded in front off my house.
Bought the good filter yesterday in an attempt to see but already did its damage.
You can see this filter in question is made of thinner metals and is cheaply made.
There isn't enough four letter words to cover this !
Jay Fox
Calgary AB
73 Painted Desert (Turtle)
78 Transmode (Trailer Donor)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Trany issue [message #216624 is a reply to message #216615] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 09:18 |
powerjon
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What make and filter# did you use to self inflict the damage to your trans??
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On Aug 2, 2013, at 8:58 AM, Jay Fox <amra@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Well Hard lesson learned I did get one of these filters it did release and has seemed to fry my clutches no forward gears,
> I phoned Manny he told me what I didn't want to hear.
> Just about to leave on a two week Racecation now its stranded in front off my house.
> Bought the good filter yesterday in an attempt to see but already did its damage.
> You can see this filter in question is made of thinner metals and is cheaply made.
> There isn't enough four letter words to cover this !
>
> --
> Jay Fox
> Calgary AB
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> 73 Painted Desert (Turtle)
> 73 23 Footer (Little One)
> 78 Transmode (Trailer Donor)
>
> http://www.amra.ca/Club%20Hauler.htm
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Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Trany issue [message #216648 is a reply to message #216607] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 11:45 |
Surbo
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| jimk wrote on Fri, 02 August 2013 01:15 |
We purchase over 20 filter per Month, but in the last 3 month, the diameter
of the tube has been small to the point we had to return 70%.
Great quality from all the big name including wix.
The Chinese think they can send over crap as the major manufactures are not
checking them out.
We are resorting to purchasing from even retailers to find the correct size
pipe.
We might resort to purchasing Orings which will make these work.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:13 AM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
> Jay,
> What part# filter did you install. There are only a few that work well in
> the transmission. One would be an ATP B-40 as recommended by Jim B. I
> still have a couple of the AC TF-169 factory filters. Your filter should
> look something like this.
>
> <
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p36766-ac-transmission-filter.html
> >
> <
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p36765-ac-transmission-filter.html
> >
>
> You can see how the pick up is compared to the one that you have.
>
> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> 75 Avion
> Michigan
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Fella's;
As JimK says, these filters are all over the place for dimensions. The filter neck that goes into the tranny needs to be right at 3/4" (.750") for the O ring to seal. Mic the tube, don't use the filter if it is even just a little smaller, it will not seal. Another thing to watch, the O rings that come with the filter, even the correct filter, are of poor quality and size, especially the body width. The O ring is a #116 O ring, which has the spec's of 3/32" width, ID 3/4", OD 15/16", actual size will be ID 0.737", OD 0.943". Go to a good hydraulics place and get a full bodied O ring, you will see the difference. I purchase them at my local JD dealer. If you have the correct O ring, no need for two O rings, they may even combat each other, or will buckle up when inserted in the tranny port.
The Wix has a slightly longer pick-up tube than the AC TF-169, no problem with the OEM pan, but may need to be shortened slightly if using a Ragussa pan, because of the fins inside the Ragussa pan.
Take care from Bob Drewes in SESD
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| Re: [GMCnet] Trany issue [message #216650 is a reply to message #216621] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 11:59 |
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Brake master and booster
Belts
Ps pressure hose
Fan clutch
Oil dip stick and tube
Drive shafts
Radiator
Todd Sullivan
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
On Aug 2, 2013, at 6:53 AM, Jp Benson <chocomo99@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Add tranny filters to the list of misfit replacement parts:
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> Front wheel bearings
> Front wheel seals
> Rear wheel seals
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> what else?
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Jay Fox <amra@shaw.ca>
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 8:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Trany issue
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>> Well Hard lesson learned I did get one of these filters it did release and has seemed to fry my clutches no forward gears,
>> I phoned Manny he told me what I didn't want to hear.
>> Just about to leave on a two week Racecation now its stranded in front off my house.
>> Bought the good filter yesterday in an attempt to see but already did its damage.
>> You can see this filter in question is made of thinner metals and is cheaply made.
>> There isn't enough four letter words to cover this !
>>
>> --
>> Jay Fox
>> Calgary AB
>>
>> 73 Painted Desert (Turtle)
>> 73 23 Footer (Little One)
>> 78 Transmode (Trailer Donor)
>>
>> http://www.amra.ca/Club%20Hauler.htm
>>
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| Re: Trany issue [message #216664 is a reply to message #216615] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 12:56 |
Carl S.
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| seven wrote on Fri, 02 August 2013 05:57 |
Well Hard lesson learned I did get one of these filters it did release and has seemed to fry my clutches no forward gears,
I phoned Manny he told me what I didn't want to hear.
Just about to leave on a two week Racecation now its stranded in front off my house.
Bought the good filter yesterday in an attempt to see but already did its damage.
You can see this filter in question is made of thinner metals and is cheaply made.
There isn't enough four letter words to cover this !
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Sounds like a liability issue for the filter manufacturer to me. You might try to initiate a claim against them. Maybe it will provoke them into being a little more conscious of their quality control.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Trany issue [message #216686 is a reply to message #216678] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 16:37 |
powerjon
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For the THIRD TIME, what was the make and part# of the filter so it can be avoided in the future.
JR Wright
On Aug 2, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Hal Kading <halkading@fastwave.biz> wrote:
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> CV joints (wrong spline)
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> "Add tranny filters to the list of misfit replacement parts:
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> Front wheel bearings
> Front wheel seals
> Rear wheel seals
>
> what else?"
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> Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
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Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Trany issue [message #216694 is a reply to message #216686] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 17:33 |
seven
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Just simply grabbed it at the local Parts Source
There is no name on it and the box has no markings but it does have the following
58882
Made in Taiwan
112012dpd
Jay Fox
Calgary AB
73 Painted Desert (Turtle)
78 Transmode (Trailer Donor)
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| Re: Trany issue [message #216709 is a reply to message #216507] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 20:32 |
JohnL455
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You are wrong about the four letter word. It is CHIN.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Trany issue [message #216715 is a reply to message #216507] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 20:59 |
Hal StClair
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I had an issue with a Wix filter a couple of months ago. The ATP filter I replaced it with worked fine.
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Trany issue [message #216717 is a reply to message #216715] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 21:05 |
powerjon
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The 58882 number comes up as WIX filter. Sells anywhere between $11 & $30. Just google wix 58882 and all sorts pop up.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On Aug 2, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Hal StClair <eaglefabrication1@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I had an issue with a Wix filter a couple of months ago. The ATP filter I replaced it with worked fine.
> Hal
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| Re: [GMCnet] Trany issue [message #216719 is a reply to message #216717] |
Fri, 02 August 2013 21:26 |
jimk
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Wix are no better than really cheap one.
We sent back 18 wix.
AC Delco had som good ones at their good price.
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 7:05 PM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
> The 58882 number comes up as WIX filter. Sells anywhere between $11 &
> $30. Just google wix 58882 and all sorts pop up.
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> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> 75 Avion
> Michigan
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> On Aug 2, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Hal StClair <eaglefabrication1@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > I had an issue with a Wix filter a couple of months ago. The ATP filter
> I replaced it with worked fine.
> > Hal
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