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Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Look a the top of the thread for a picture of the whole backside of the wheel. Look at the bottom of the thread for a close up of the wheel and tire.

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-generation-ge-08-present/79120-first-post-first-explosion.html#post1195405

This kind of looks like a bullet hole except this car is so low to the ground that you could not really have shot it. The hole is through the tread and not the side wall.



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Re: Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216517 is a reply to message #216503] Thu, 01 August 2013 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Burton wrote on Thu, 01 August 2013 06:50

Look a the top of the thread for a picture of the whole backside of the wheel. Look at the bottom of the thread for a close up of the wheel and tire.

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-generation-ge-08-present/79120-first-post-first-explosion.html#post1195405

This kind of looks like a bullet hole except this car is so low to the ground that you could not really have shot it. The hole is through the tread and not the side wall.





Wow! That IS bizarre! I had a plumber friend once have a tire (mounted in the front of a utility bed) explode just sitting on the mount in the back of the truck. He said he had never mounted on an axle. Brand new spare just aged out on the spare tire mount. It blew the tread out on the top of the tire.


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Re: [GMCnet] Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216520 is a reply to message #216503] Thu, 01 August 2013 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Ken,

Bizzare! I agree that the alloy broke from the inside out and the texts alludes that there was a matching hole in the tire which
says to me that something BIG punched a hole in both - railroad spike?

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Rob M.

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Look a the top of the thread for a picture of the whole backside of the wheel. Look at the bottom of the thread for a close up of
the wheel and tire.

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-generation-ge-08-present/79120-first-post-first-explosion.html#post1195405

Ken

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Re: [GMCnet] Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216521 is a reply to message #216520] Thu, 01 August 2013 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It would have to be planted pretty firmly in the road.  Didn't say if it was front or rear wheel.  Looks more like a projectile wound.

JP





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>Ken,
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>Bizzare! I agree that the alloy broke from the inside out and the texts alludes that there was a matching hole in the tire which
>says to me that something BIG punched a hole in both - railroad spike?
>
>Regards,
>Rob M.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ken Burton
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>
>Look a the top of the thread for a picture of the whole backside of the wheel.  Look at the bottom of the thread for a close up of
>the wheel and tire. 
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>http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-generation-ge-08-present/79120-first-post-first-explosion.html#post1195405
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Re: Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216525 is a reply to message #216503] Thu, 01 August 2013 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The dynamics of running into something with a tire at interstate speeds are "interesting"... it's kind of like straw impaled through trees after a tornado. I was in a tire store that displayed some of the more interesting punctures - I remember one was a pair of slip-joint plumber's pliers through the entire center of the tread. I think what likely happens is that the front tire kicks up the object so the rear tire hits it "just right".

Mark Hickey Mesa, AZ 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
Re: Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216526 is a reply to message #216525] Thu, 01 August 2013 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had a 1' piece of 3/8 rebar somehow impale the inside sidewall of a Chevy 3/4 ton van...how does "FOD" (foriegn object damage) like a nail or drywall screw (let alone a foot long piece of rebar) go from a stable state lying on the ground to sticking straight into a tire....

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Re: [GMCnet] Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216540 is a reply to message #216526] Thu, 01 August 2013 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it's on the edge of the tire it can pop out, or be caught in the tread
and flung.
On Aug 1, 2013 9:13 AM, "Sean Kidd" <fiatkidd@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> I had a 1' piece of 3/8 rebar somehow impale the inside sidewall of a
> Chevy 3/4 ton van...how does "FOD" (foriegn object damage) like a nail or
> drywall screw (let alone a foot long piece of rebar) go from a stable state
> lying on the ground to sticking straight into a tire....
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216544 is a reply to message #216540] Thu, 01 August 2013 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On two separate occations I've had a FRONT tire pick up a tool (pliers) and had them driven into the tread of high dollar tires! Luckily, neither damaged the alloy wheels! Neither was on the GMC MH. Hell, it won't keep running long enough to find F.O.D.!


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> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:04:19 -0700
> From: ronaldpottol@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Interesting tire failure - Not GMC
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> If it's on the edge of the tire it can pop out, or be caught in the tread
> and flung.
> On Aug 1, 2013 9:13 AM, "Sean Kidd" <fiatkidd@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I had a 1' piece of 3/8 rebar somehow impale the inside sidewall of a
> > Chevy 3/4 ton van...how does "FOD" (foriegn object damage) like a nail or
> > drywall screw (let alone a foot long piece of rebar) go from a stable state
> > lying on the ground to sticking straight into a tire....
> > --
> > 73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
> > Hubler 1-Ton, Quadra Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms,
> > Fluorescent Mineral Capital of the World, New Jersey


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Re: [GMCnet] Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216545 is a reply to message #216525] Thu, 01 August 2013 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Most motorcycle flats that are caused by debris are usually kicked up
from the front tire. Once disturbed, it can bounce along the
undercarriage until the rear tire takes the hit.

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(Riding on and off - mostly on - for 37 years)

On 8/1/2013 12:06 PM, Mark wrote:
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> The dynamics of running into something with a tire at interstate speeds are "interesting"... it's kind of like straw impaled through trees after a tornado. I was in a tire store that displayed some of the more interesting punctures - I remember one was a pair of slip-joint plumber's pliers through the entire center of the tread. I think what likely happens is that the front tire kicks up the object so the rear tire hits it "just right".

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Re: [GMCnet] Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216557 is a reply to message #216545] Thu, 01 August 2013 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wow cool.
Musta been something interesting to run over

I once had a 6" long 1/4"wide piece of glass pulled out of my tire I must have hit it just right to force a piece of glass through the steel belts!


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Re: Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216585 is a reply to message #216503] Thu, 01 August 2013 21:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Burton wrote on Thu, 01 August 2013 08:50

Look a the top of the thread for a picture of the whole backside of the wheel. Look at the bottom of the thread for a close up of the wheel and tire.

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-generation-ge-08-present/79120-first-post-first-explosion.html#post1195405

This kind of looks like a bullet hole except this car is so low to the ground that you could not really have shot it. The hole is through the tread and not the side wall.



My initial vote was for a .223 or 30 caliber carbine.

I haven't been back on that forum since yesterday to see if there is any more information.

This was a small tire on a Honda Fit.
It is something like 1.85x55-16, but still steel belted.


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Re: Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216589 is a reply to message #216585] Thu, 01 August 2013 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mounted on the car, the center of that wheel would have been full of brakes, axles, suspension etc. Yet it looks as if the hole was started straight out from the center, not a glancing blow from the side?


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Re: Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216595 is a reply to message #216589] Thu, 01 August 2013 22:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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I went back and re-read the entire thread. He never stated what position the tire was mounted on (front or rear). I had two of those of those that I threw away. If I still had them I would try firing a few rounds of different sizes at the tread and see what happens.

Oh well, it was interesting to look at the photos.


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Re: Interesting tire failure - Not GMC [message #216993 is a reply to message #216503] Mon, 05 August 2013 04:28 Go to previous message
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Same thread , different tire

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/sylop729/hole_zps10a33b62.jpg



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