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[GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #216404] Wed, 31 July 2013 12:50 Go to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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I read Dan's long post about all the free help he's gotten and some he's
paid for with the tag that you ought to get to Branson.

In order to keep my friends on the left coast happy, I'm just going to say
that they surely are as tremendous as the bunch that'll gather in the
hills and hollers of southern Missouri. Among them are Armand, Jerry,
Gary, Gene, Manny, and a whole bunch of others. Problem is, I can't make
it out their for their fantabulous celebration of the 40th anniversary of
the TZE. I'd surely like to be present when the WS, 49ers, and Cascaders
get together in October.

Martha and I will be at Branson. We do enjoy being around our friends,
GMC, SOB or whatever.

It may be the brand that gets you there but it's the people that keep you
going back.

Byron Songer
Louisville, KY


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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #216408 is a reply to message #216404] Wed, 31 July 2013 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their semi-annual ralleys. Lots of good folks out here.

Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #216412 is a reply to message #216408] Wed, 31 July 2013 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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I will take strong exception to this statement. I'll explain why.

I've been to GMCMI conventions in Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Iowa, and
plan to go to one in Missouri. When I last checked the map of the lower 48
it seemed to me they were pretty close to the population center of the US.
I've been to two others. One in Illinois and the other in Indiana.

Here's one of the issues. If GMCMI were to hold a convention in Amarillo
there'd be a bunch from the right coast that would complain that "it's too
far" and a bunch from the left coast with the same complaint.

And, of course, there's the rumor that the leaders of the two groups can't
get along. Why, I don't really know and I don't really care. The only
explanation I know of is that there are idiots in this nation and,
unfortunately, they get a great kick our of carrying hard feelings.

The reality is this (and let's just forget about the past) -- more folks
can get to good conventions west of the Rockies and east of the Rockies if
groups on both sides of the "great divide" plan outstanding events. Sure,
I'd like to get to both but it's physically impossible for many people. I
don't think GMCMI has abandoned anything. The leadership has looked at the
reality of the situation and made decisions on those truths.

I applaud GMCWS, 40ers, and Cascaders for putting together a great even in
Coos Bay. If I were fully retired I'd be at both somehow in our Airstream
DP just because the people are great and the camaraderie can't be beat.

However, I do feel that once every four years we need to have one, big,
co-sponsored convention somewhere along the front range of the Rockies.
For that to happen some egos are going to have to step aside for the good
of the community. Until then, long live the TZE and its owners. And while
we're living, let's enjoy the opportunities.

Byron Songer
Louisville, KY

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>It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their
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>Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #216415 is a reply to message #216408] Wed, 31 July 2013 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Look at a population map, no one lives between the Rockies and the west
coast. They should coordinate the rallies so people could attend both, but
that is at least one or two long days on the road, which few people will
do.

I posted some maps the last time this came up, two people separated by
mountains, basin, and range.
On Jul 31, 2013 11:25 AM, "Hal Kading" <halkading@fastwave.biz> wrote:

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> It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their
> semi-annual ralleys. Lots of good folks out here.
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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #216417 is a reply to message #216408] Wed, 31 July 2013 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What does the geographical distribution of GMC M/H owners/members look like?

A fairly sizable bunch in WA, OR, CA, ID, AZ and maybe NV and UT (west of the big mountains)?

A smaller group in MT, WY, CO, NM? A few in the Dakotas? Some more in NE and KS and OK?

A big group in TX and probably 70% or more of the total east of those states.

I'd like to go somewhere out west, but so far I got from my home in OKC to Shawnee last year but didn't make it home.

This year, I got about the same distance (~ 50 miles) before Money Pit threw craps again; still not roadworthy.

Thinking about going by car to Branson and staying in Kamping Kabin if they have them!

I don't really think that GMCMI has "abandoned" the left coast. In the few years I have owned my coach, GMCMI seems to have chosen locations for the "conventions" based upon expected climate conditions, distance to travel, and availability of facilitities. Selecting the locale is NOT a job I'd want to take on!


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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust
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> It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their semi-annual ralleys. Lots of good folks out here.
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> Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM

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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #216418 is a reply to message #216412] Wed, 31 July 2013 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Why does this stuff re-emerge? It is all about mileage and time. Clear on
the East won't work for the folks on the West and ditto for the West. Don't
have nothin' against you folks out East. I am certain that Ken Henderson is
a real great guy, he has stayed with us several nights, and we really
enjoyed his visit. I am sure that most of the rest of you will be warmly
welcomed if you ever decide to motor West. Coos Bay, Or is going to be a
real hum dinger of a Rally. Hope as many of you folks that call Tornado
Alley home can make it out here.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Jul 31, 2013 12:37 PM, "Byron Songer" <bsonger@songerconsulting.net>
wrote:

> I will take strong exception to this statement. I'll explain why.
>
> I've been to GMCMI conventions in Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Iowa, and
> plan to go to one in Missouri. When I last checked the map of the lower 48
> it seemed to me they were pretty close to the population center of the US.
> I've been to two others. One in Illinois and the other in Indiana.
>
> Here's one of the issues. If GMCMI were to hold a convention in Amarillo
> there'd be a bunch from the right coast that would complain that "it's too
> far" and a bunch from the left coast with the same complaint.
>
> And, of course, there's the rumor that the leaders of the two groups can't
> get along. Why, I don't really know and I don't really care. The only
> explanation I know of is that there are idiots in this nation and,
> unfortunately, they get a great kick our of carrying hard feelings.
>
> The reality is this (and let's just forget about the past) -- more folks
> can get to good conventions west of the Rockies and east of the Rockies if
> groups on both sides of the "great divide" plan outstanding events. Sure,
> I'd like to get to both but it's physically impossible for many people. I
> don't think GMCMI has abandoned anything. The leadership has looked at the
> reality of the situation and made decisions on those truths.
>
> I applaud GMCWS, 40ers, and Cascaders for putting together a great even in
> Coos Bay. If I were fully retired I'd be at both somehow in our Airstream
> DP just because the people are great and the camaraderie can't be beat.
>
> However, I do feel that once every four years we need to have one, big,
> co-sponsored convention somewhere along the front range of the Rockies.
> For that to happen some egos are going to have to step aside for the good
> of the community. Until then, long live the TZE and its owners. And while
> we're living, let's enjoy the opportunities.
>
> Byron Songer
> Louisville, KY
>
> ATTENTION: This reply is in reference to what is provided belowÅ 
>
> >
> >It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their
> >semi-annual ralleys. Lots of good folks out here.
> >
> >Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #216426 is a reply to message #216408] Wed, 31 July 2013 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hal kading wrote on Wed, 31 July 2013 14:25

It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their semi-annual ralleys. Lots of good folks out here.

Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM

Hal,

Your remark is without out foundation or support.

If I recall correctly (and I do - I just checked), the rally in Shawnee was closer to San Diego than I was to New York City and we still had people coming in from the Canadian Maritimes. We have been to three rallies (some even before Mary was retired) that took two long-hard road days (that means over 1100 miles) just to get there.

If you had been listening, Kim worked very hard on two locations for this event, one was Laughlin NV. I don't recall what the problem was, but it seems there were a few.

It all depends on what you want to do.

Matt - planning on Branson even if there isn't any Derby.



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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #216436 is a reply to message #216404] Wed, 31 July 2013 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob and I were fortunate to be able to go from Texas to Santa Rosa, CA,
GMCMI in '08. The next fall we missed the Delaware GMCMI Convention but
have attended most Intl meets since '05. We were looking forward to the
Coos Bay meet in October because we love the area and just know it will be
a well planned/executed gathering. We were looking forward to seeing some
GMC friends and to getting to know some others we haven't spent time with
anywhere else.

We have found GMCers to be warm, welcoming people. We just happen to be
people who "just do it". When we got our GMC in '05, the plan was to
travel. We soon learned rallies were fun, too; so we have done both,
thanks to Bob's mechanical ability combined with a "few" $ spent for
repairs/upgrades. If he had not developed health issues, we had planned
our third trip to AK in our GMC this summer, with a return through Coos Bay
for the joint meet in October.

Our wings have been clipped, but we still have the desire and, especially
now, encourage all who have the wanderlust to "just so it". Sure there is
the cost of fuel, etc. for your coach and rv park costs, but other costs
are not much different from staying home. The GMC friends GMCMI introduces
you to enrich not only the conventions, but other aspects of your life as
well. Use that coach and don't let distance limit your destinations. Our
"Roadhouse" motto is "Life's a Trip". Live your life as if there is no
tomorrow and you'll have no regrets.

Sandra and Bob
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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #216449 is a reply to message #216418] Wed, 31 July 2013 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am hesitant to continue the thread of East/Central vs West US but here goes.
First, there is no leadership animosity and has not been for many years.
Secondly Western states and International have held several successful combined or nearby rallies (conventions) in recent years. Rapid City SD/Estes Park CO. Santa Rosa, CA and Pueblo, CO. These have all been very successful. Freddie and I and Schwartzendruber’s worked hard to make them a success. There are some practical problems besides distance.
There are a limited number of facilities, read fairgrounds, that are set up to handle 150 or so and have reasonable prices.
Many of the commercial facilities that are willing to hold the spaces are not willing to allow off facility food service.
This killed the attempt at a combined get together last year in AZ. Think of it, Dan could not scoop ice cream. Unthinkable.
Oasis in Las Vegas has also adopted this policy since International was there last.
If any know of possible sites west of the Missouri. We are willing to help.

Frank Condos
73 wanabe
Ahwahnee, CA
Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #216472 is a reply to message #216436] Wed, 31 July 2013 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sandra Price wrote on Wed, 31 July 2013 16:15

Bob and I were fortunate to be able to go from Texas to Santa Rosa, CA,
GMCMI in '08. The next fall we missed the Delaware GMCMI Convention but
have attended most Intl meets since '05. We were looking forward to the
Coos Bay meet in October because we love the area and just know it will be
a well planned/executed gathering. We were looking forward to seeing some
GMC friends and to getting to know some others we haven't spent time with
anywhere else.

We have found GMCers to be warm, welcoming people. We just happen to be
people who "just do it". When we got our GMC in '05, the plan was to
travel. We soon learned rallies were fun, too; so we have done both,
thanks to Bob's mechanical ability combined with a "few" $ spent for
repairs/upgrades. If he had not developed health issues, we had planned
our third trip to AK in our GMC this summer, with a return through Coos Bay
for the joint meet in October.

Our wings have been clipped, but we still have the desire and, especially
now, encourage all who have the wanderlust to "just so it". Sure there is
the cost of fuel, etc. for your coach and rv park costs, but other costs
are not much different from staying home. The GMC friends GMCMI introduces
you to enrich not only the conventions, but other aspects of your life as
well. Use that coach and don't let distance limit your destinations. Our
"Roadhouse" motto is "Life's a Trip". Live your life as if there is no
tomorrow and you'll have no regrets.

Sandra and Bob
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Well said, Sandra, love your attitude. We enjoyed meeting you and Bob at the Shawnee GMCMI. Sorry to hear of Bob's health issues. Give him our regards. We will remember him in our prayers.


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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #216473 is a reply to message #216449] Wed, 31 July 2013 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thumbs up to Frank.
We certainly can't have a rally with no scooped cream. Just un American.
Smile
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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #216477 is a reply to message #216472] Wed, 31 July 2013 22:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks, Carl.
On Jul 31, 2013 9:51 PM, "Carl Stouffer" <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Sandra Price wrote on Wed, 31 July 2013 16:15
> > Bob and I were fortunate to be able to go from Texas to Santa Rosa, CA,
> > GMCMI in '08. The next fall we missed the Delaware GMCMI Convention but
> > have attended most Intl meets since '05. We were looking forward to the
> > Coos Bay meet in October because we love the area and just know it will
> be
> > a well planned/executed gathering. We were looking forward to seeing
> some
> > GMC friends and to getting to know some others we haven't spent time with
> > anywhere else.
> >
> > We have found GMCers to be warm, welcoming people. We just happen to be
> > people who "just do it". When we got our GMC in '05, the plan was to
> > travel. We soon learned rallies were fun, too; so we have done both,
> > thanks to Bob's mechanical ability combined with a "few" $ spent for
> > repairs/upgrades. If he had not developed health issues, we had planned
> > our third trip to AK in our GMC this summer, with a return through Coos
> Bay
> > for the joint meet in October.
> >
> > Our wings have been clipped, but we still have the desire and, especially
> > now, encourage all who have the wanderlust to "just so it". Sure there
> is
> > the cost of fuel, etc. for your coach and rv park costs, but other costs
> > are not much different from staying home. The GMC friends GMCMI
> introduces
> > you to enrich not only the conventions, but other aspects of your life as
> > well. Use that coach and don't let distance limit your destinations.
> Our
> > "Roadhouse" motto is "Life's a Trip". Live your life as if there is no
> > tomorrow and you'll have no regrets.
> >
> > Sandra and Bob
> > On Jul 31, 2013 3:35 PM, "James Hupy" <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Well said, Sandra, love your attitude. We enjoyed meeting you and Bob at
> the Shawnee GMCMI. Sorry to hear of Bob's health issues. Give him our
> regards. We will remember him in our prayers.
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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #218935 is a reply to message #216408] Sun, 18 August 2013 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hal kading wrote on Wed, 31 July 2013 11:25

It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their semi-annual ralleys. Lots of good folks out here.

Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM


Well, well said. Well said. When I have to drive to the Eastern Time Zone (Goshen, IN) to attend the "Western" of the two GMCMI rallies it makes me wonder. On my map, the Mississippi river is not the middle of the USA. Going home from Amana I had to drive for hours to reach the middle of the country.



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George Beckman wrote on Sun, 18 August 2013 16:49

hal kading wrote on Wed, 31 July 2013 11:25

It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their semi-annual ralleys. Lots of good folks out here.

Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM


Well, well said. Well said. When I have to drive to the Eastern Time Zone (Goshen, IN) to attend the "Western" of the two GMCMI rallies it makes me wonder. On my map, the Mississippi river is not the middle of the USA. Going home from Amana I had to drive for hours to reach the middle of the country.
Take a look at this map of population density and see if you can figure out why rallys are held where they are:
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2013/08/130815_MOTW_01_48StateMap.jpg
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2013/08/130815_MOTW_01_48StateMap.jpg
Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219008 is a reply to message #219004] Sun, 18 August 2013 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kind of amazing just how empty some parts of this county are.
On Aug 18, 2013 6:41 PM, "A." <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:

>
>
> George Beckman wrote on Sun, 18 August 2013 16:49
> > hal kading wrote on Wed, 31 July 2013 11:25
> > > It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their
> semi-annual ralleys. Lots of good folks out here.
> > >
> > > Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
> >
> >
> > Well, well said. Well said. When I have to drive to the Eastern Time
> Zone (Goshen, IN) to attend the "Western" of the two GMCMI rallies it makes
> me wonder. On my map, the Mississippi river is not the middle of the USA.
> Going home from Amana I had to drive for hours to reach the middle of the
> country.
> Take a look at this map of population density and see if you can figure
> out why rallys are held where they are:
>
>
> http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2013/08/130815_MOTW_01_48StateMap.jpg
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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219099 is a reply to message #218935] Mon, 19 August 2013 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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George

The geographic center of the 48 states is a point near the town of Lebanon, Kansas. If you check a map you will find that Amana, IA is about 50 miles east of this point. It is also north but I am just using longitude.

So, if you had to drive 50 miles west to get to the centerline of the country, exactly how many "hours" did you have to drive?

Emery Stora

On Aug 18, 2013, at 3:49 PM, George Beckman wrote:

>
>
> hal kading wrote on Wed, 31 July 2013 11:25
>> It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their semi-annual ralleys. Lots of good folks out here.
>>
>> Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
>
>
> Well, well said. Well said. When I have to drive to the Eastern Time Zone (Goshen, IN) to attend the "Western" of the two GMCMI rallies it makes me wonder. On my map, the Mississippi river is not the middle of the USA. Going home from Amana I had to drive for hours to reach the middle of the country.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219112 is a reply to message #216404] Mon, 19 August 2013 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Wow, that map really opened my eyes.
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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219122 is a reply to message #219099] Mon, 19 August 2013 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I guess that no one picked up on the mistake I made. Lebanon KS is actually about 330 miles west of Amana. The mapping program I used went to Lebanon, IA and I didn't notice it right away.

So, George probably had to drive 5 hours west of Amana to get to the Geographic center of the USA.

Emery Stora

On Aug 19, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Emery Stora wrote:

> George
>
> The geographic center of the 48 states is a point near the town of Lebanon, Kansas. If you check a map you will find that Amana, IA is about 50 miles east of this point. It is also north but I am just using longitude.
>
> So, if you had to drive 50 miles west to get to the centerline of the country, exactly how many "hours" did you have to drive?
>
> Emery Stora
>
> On Aug 18, 2013, at 3:49 PM, George Beckman wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> hal kading wrote on Wed, 31 July 2013 11:25
>>> It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their semi-annual ralleys. Lots of good folks out here.
>>>
>>> Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
>>
>>
>> Well, well said. Well said. When I have to drive to the Eastern Time Zone (Goshen, IN) to attend the "Western" of the two GMCMI rallies it makes me wonder. On my map, the Mississippi river is not the middle of the USA. Going home from Amana I had to drive for hours to reach the middle of the country.
>>
>>
>> --
>> '74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
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>> George
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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219127 is a reply to message #219122] Mon, 19 August 2013 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wikipedia say that the mean center of the US population is located 2.7 miles northeast of Plato Missouri.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_center_of_United_States_population
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Mean_Center_of_Population_1790-2010.PNG

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On Aug 19, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:

> I guess that no one picked up on the mistake I made. Lebanon KS is actually about 330 miles west of Amana. The mapping program I used went to Lebanon, IA and I didn't notice it right away.
>
> So, George probably had to drive 5 hours west of Amana to get to the Geographic center of the USA.
>
> Emery Stora
>
> On Aug 19, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
>
>> George
>>
>> The geographic center of the 48 states is a point near the town of Lebanon, Kansas. If you check a map you will find that Amana, IA is about 50 miles east of this point. It is also north but I am just using longitude.
>>
>> So, if you had to drive 50 miles west to get to the centerline of the country, exactly how many "hours" did you have to drive?
>>
>> Emery Stora
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2013, at 3:49 PM, George Beckman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hal kading wrote on Wed, 31 July 2013 11:25
>>>> It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their semi-annual ralleys. Lots of good folks out here.
>>>>
>>>> Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, well said. Well said. When I have to drive to the Eastern Time Zone (Goshen, IN) to attend the "Western" of the two GMCMI rallies it makes me wonder. On my map, the Mississippi river is not the middle of the USA. Going home from Amana I had to drive for hours to reach the middle of the country.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> '74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> George
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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219130 is a reply to message #219127] Mon, 19 August 2013 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Only the U.S. Census Bureau would come up with that response. Take a flat
map on a table, use the NE Tip of Maine, and the SW corner of Ca. Draw a
straight line through the USA, Point to point. Do the same thing with
Washington State only use the NW corner. And Finally Florida only use the
extreme SE corner. Draw a line between these two points. Where those two
lines intersect has got to be close to the geographic center of the
Continental United States. It is miles traveled out and back that makes the
difference to me, not how many people live there. If Gmcmi does not locate
conventions so the distances traveled are close to the same for all of us,
there will always be this discussion. Then you can factor in location
facilities, weather potential, and the rest of intangibles that people can
come up with. Perhaps one solution might be locating conventions on
opposite coasts in alternate years. In the meantime if you decide to motor
West, come on out to Coos Bay in October. We will make sure you will attend
a convention full of memories.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
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On Aug 19, 2013 1:53 PM, "John Wright" <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:

> Wikipedia say that the mean center of the US population is located 2.7
> miles northeast of Plato Missouri.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_center_of_United_States_population
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Mean_Center_of_Population_1790-2010.PNG
>
> JR Wright
> On Aug 19, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > I guess that no one picked up on the mistake I made. Lebanon KS is
> actually about 330 miles west of Amana. The mapping program I used went to
> Lebanon, IA and I didn't notice it right away.
> >
> > So, George probably had to drive 5 hours west of Amana to get to the
> Geographic center of the USA.
> >
> > Emery Stora
> >
> > On Aug 19, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
> >
> >> George
> >>
> >> The geographic center of the 48 states is a point near the town of
> Lebanon, Kansas. If you check a map you will find that Amana, IA is about
> 50 miles east of this point. It is also north but I am just using
> longitude.
> >>
> >> So, if you had to drive 50 miles west to get to the centerline of the
> country, exactly how many "hours" did you have to drive?
> >>
> >> Emery Stora
> >>
> >> On Aug 18, 2013, at 3:49 PM, George Beckman wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> hal kading wrote on Wed, 31 July 2013 11:25
> >>>> It is too bad that GMCMI appears to have abandoned the west for their
> semi-annual ralleys. Lots of good folks out here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Well, well said. Well said. When I have to drive to the Eastern Time
> Zone (Goshen, IN) to attend the "Western" of the two GMCMI rallies it makes
> me wonder. On my map, the Mississippi river is not the middle of the USA.
> Going home from Amana I had to drive for hours to reach the middle of the
> country.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> '74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
> >>> Best Wishes,
> >>> George
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