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[GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211191] Sat, 15 June 2013 19:49 Go to next message
dwayne jacobson[1] is currently offline  dwayne jacobson[1]   United States
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Went and brought our77 Eleganza out of storage and what a SMELL.
It was in Sumas Washington and the Canadian Border Guard insisted in
checking it out. I figure she was glad to see me gone. Waste water
seeping out of the top of the tank - not mush in the tank but going down
hills
brought it out.
so what is the best procedure in dropping this tank. besides taking the
sensor
wires off, the connection to the mascerator and the 2 steel bars holding it.
It's the connections to the drains on the top side I am not sure of.
I have to get this done so my daughter can take it to the Oregon Coast end
of next week.

Dwayne Jacobson
White Rock BC
Cell: 604-644-8090
77 kingsley
77 eleganza II
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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211199 is a reply to message #211191] Sat, 15 June 2013 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Dwayne,

You may be fortunate and find that the leak is from a line into the top of the tank --
here is a photo album by Emery on replacing the kitchen area drain...

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3276-kitchen-sink-drain-to-holding-tank.html

If you have to pull the waste tank -- you will need to remove the toilet. I do not know what type of fitting into the tank you may have. On my 73 it is a screw in fitting and I used this home made tool to remove it after pulling the toilet and removing the six wood screws that held the flange.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-special-purpose-tools/p37671-0067.html

The bath sink and shower drain on your wet bath would be in the rear wall of the bath module.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/3841/841_p13156.jpg

Depending on how you have the rear configured access may be easy or difficult.

Dennis

dwayne jacobson[1

wrote on Sat, 15 June 2013 19:49]Went and brought our77 Eleganza out of storage and what a SMELL.
It was in Sumas Washington and the Canadian Border Guard insisted in
checking it out. I figure she was glad to see me gone. Waste water
seeping out of the top of the tank - not mush in the tank but going down
hills
brought it out.
so what is the best procedure in dropping this tank. besides taking the
sensor
wires off, the connection to the mascerator and the 2 steel bars holding it.
It's the connections to the drains on the top side I am not sure of.
I have to get this done so my daughter can take it to the Oregon Coast end
of next week.

Dwayne Jacobson
White Rock BC
Cell: 604-644-8090
77 kingsley
77 eleganza II
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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211200 is a reply to message #211191] Sat, 15 June 2013 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dwayne...I'm not so sure you have to drop the tank if a cleanout is what your after. You may have sludge or what have you that has attached it self to the tank that can be dislodged by dumping several bags of ice cubes into the tank with a few gallons of water and going for a long drive on a windy road. Lots of jostling is the ticket. Then a good dump with a garden hose down the toilet full blast. Dump in the recommended deodoriser form the local RV guy and you should be OK.
Call me if you have question's.......Dan
Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211201 is a reply to message #211199] Sat, 15 June 2013 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dwayne jacobson[1] is currently offline  dwayne jacobson[1]   United States
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Thank Jim and Dennis
will get to this on Fathers Day. What we still do for our kids. Hey whose
Day is it to Celebrate.
Dwayne
White Rock
77 Eleganza



On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>wrote:

>
>
> Dwayne,
>
> You may be fortunate and find that the leak is from a line into the top of
> the tank --
> here is a photo album by Emery on replacing the kitchen area drain...
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3276-kitchen-sink-drain-to-holding-tank.html
>
> If you have to pull the waste tank -- you will need to remove the toilet.
> I do not know what type of fitting into the tank you may have. On my 73 it
> is a screw in fitting and I used this home made tool to remove it after
> pulling the toilet and removing the six wood screws that held the flange.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-special-purpose-tools/p37671-0067.html
>
> The bath sink and shower drain on your wet bath would be in the rear wall
> of the bath module.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/3841/841_p13156.jpg
>
> Depending on how you have the rear configured access may be easy or
> difficult.
>
> Dennis
>
> dwayne jacobson[1
> > wrote on Sat, 15 June 2013 19:49]Went and brought our77 Eleganza out of
> storage and what a SMELL.
> > It was in Sumas Washington and the Canadian Border Guard insisted in
> > checking it out. I figure she was glad to see me gone. Waste water
> > seeping out of the top of the tank - not mush in the tank but going down
> > hills
> > brought it out.
> > so what is the best procedure in dropping this tank. besides taking the
> > sensor
> > wires off, the connection to the mascerator and the 2 steel bars holding
> it.
> > It's the connections to the drains on the top side I am not sure of.
> > I have to get this done so my daughter can take it to the Oregon Coast
> end
> > of next week.
> >
> > Dwayne Jacobson
> > White Rock BC
> > Cell: 604-644-8090
> > 77 kingsley
> > 77 eleganza II
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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211203 is a reply to message #211201] Sat, 15 June 2013 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Dwayne,

Another memory from dropping the tank -- have a good pair of vise grips handy -- you should expect to hold the hanger rods while you remove the nuts holding the two tank straps.

Dennis

dwayne jacobson[1

wrote on Sat, 15 June 2013 21:20]Thank Jim and Dennis
will get to this on Fathers Day. What we still do for our kids. Hey whose
Day is it to Celebrate.
Dwayne
White Rock
77 Eleganza



On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>wrote:

>
>
> Dwayne,
>
> You may be fortunate and find that the leak is from a line into the top of
> the tank --
> here is a photo album by Emery on replacing the kitchen area drain...
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3276-kitchen-sink-drain-to-holding-tank.html





Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211220 is a reply to message #211200] Sat, 15 June 2013 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dwayne jacobson[1] is currently offline  dwayne jacobson[1]   United States
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Dan
it's not sludge etc. it is liquid leaking out of the top some place as it
slushes back and forth- up and down hills etc.
It was cleaned out last fall and winterized. we flushed through some clean
water and dumped both by the masceator and


On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Dan Borlase <bord@shaw.ca> wrote:

>
>
> Dwayne...I'm not so sure you have to drop the tank if a cleanout is what
> your after. You may have sludge or what have you that has attached it self
> to the tank that can be dislodged by dumping several bags of ice cubes into
> the tank with a few gallons of water and going for a long drive on a windy
> road. Lots of jostling is the ticket. Then a good dump with a garden hose
> down the toilet full blast. Dump in the recommended deodoriser form the
> local RV guy and you should be OK.
> Call me if you have question's.......Dan
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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211242 is a reply to message #211191] Sun, 16 June 2013 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dwayne jacobson[1

wrote on Sat, 15 June 2013 20:49]Went and brought our77 Eleganza out of storage and what a SMELL.
It was in Sumas Washington and the Canadian Border Guard insisted in checking it out. I figure she was glad to see me gone. Waste water seeping out of the top of the tank - not mush in the tank but going down hills brought it out.
so what is the best procedure in dropping this tank. besides taking the sensor wires off, the connection to the mascerator and the 2 steel bars holding it.
It's the connections to the drains on the top side I am not sure of.
I have to get this done so my daughter can take it to the Oregon Coast end of next week.

Dwayne Jacobson

Dwayne,

I do not know about coaches the age of yours, but mine had (HAD) steel nipples as the first thing out of the tank for the galley/head drains and the vent. I fought the stink for a few years before I found that one of those to had complete corroded away and the other was just a little bit behind.

You will have to look it up, but you have a drain into the tank on the galley side and I can't begin to tell you how to find it. The two on the head side were behind the potable tank so all I had to do was completely dismantle the coach back there to get the tank out.

There is an important step in dropping the tank. You have to remove the pot and then unscrew the flange underneath from the tank top. This is not tough to do if you take a 2x4 less that two feet long and drill hole for the pot studs. That is your new wrench to unscrew the pot's stand pipe.

It does not matter how carefully you drained the tank, it will spill something during the process.

What a great Father's Day you have lined up.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211244 is a reply to message #211242] Sun, 16 June 2013 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dwayne jacobson[1] is currently offline  dwayne jacobson[1]   United States
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Hi Matt
Not sure what you mean doing with the 2x4 - 2 ft long
Dwayne


On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> dwayne jacobson[1
> > wrote on Sat, 15 June 2013 20:49]Went and brought our77 Eleganza out of
> storage and what a SMELL.
> > It was in Sumas Washington and the Canadian Border Guard insisted in
> checking it out. I figure she was glad to see me gone. Waste water
> seeping out of the top of the tank - not mush in the tank but going down
> hills brought it out.
> > so what is the best procedure in dropping this tank. besides taking the
> sensor wires off, the connection to the mascerator and the 2 steel bars
> holding it.
> > It's the connections to the drains on the top side I am not sure of.
> > I have to get this done so my daughter can take it to the Oregon Coast
> end of next week.
> >
> > Dwayne Jacobson
>
> Dwayne,
>
> I do not know about coaches the age of yours, but mine had (HAD) steel
> nipples as the first thing out of the tank for the galley/head drains and
> the vent. I fought the stink for a few years before I found that one of
> those to had complete corroded away and the other was just a little bit
> behind.
>
> You will have to look it up, but you have a drain into the tank on the
> galley side and I can't begin to tell you how to find it. The two on the
> head side were behind the potable tank so all I had to do was completely
> dismantle the coach back there to get the tank out.
>
> There is an important step in dropping the tank. You have to remove the
> pot and then unscrew the flange underneath from the tank top. This is not
> tough to do if you take a 2x4 less that two feet long and drill hole for
> the pot studs. That is your new wrench to unscrew the pot's stand pipe.
>
> It does not matter how carefully you drained the tank, it will spill
> something during the process.
>
> What a great Father's Day you have lined up.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air)
> Now with 4 working Rear Brakes
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211247 is a reply to message #211244] Sun, 16 June 2013 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dwayne, the toilet flange is screwed into the fitting in the top of the
waste tank. It is usually very, very tight. The 2 x 4 serves as a long
lever to unscrew the flange that will not go through the opening in the
floor of the coach. You can use other stuff besides a board to do the same
thing. I have some pix I will send you if this is still unclear to you.
Jim Hupy
On Jun 16, 2013 8:01 AM, "dwayne jacobson" <dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Matt
> Not sure what you mean doing with the 2x4 - 2 ft long
> Dwayne
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > dwayne jacobson[1
> > > wrote on Sat, 15 June 2013 20:49]Went and brought our77 Eleganza out of
> > storage and what a SMELL.
> > > It was in Sumas Washington and the Canadian Border Guard insisted in
> > checking it out. I figure she was glad to see me gone. Waste water
> > seeping out of the top of the tank - not mush in the tank but going down
> > hills brought it out.
> > > so what is the best procedure in dropping this tank. besides taking
> the
> > sensor wires off, the connection to the mascerator and the 2 steel bars
> > holding it.
> > > It's the connections to the drains on the top side I am not sure of.
> > > I have to get this done so my daughter can take it to the Oregon Coast
> > end of next week.
> > >
> > > Dwayne Jacobson
> >
> > Dwayne,
> >
> > I do not know about coaches the age of yours, but mine had (HAD) steel
> > nipples as the first thing out of the tank for the galley/head drains and
> > the vent. I fought the stink for a few years before I found that one of
> > those to had complete corroded away and the other was just a little bit
> > behind.
> >
> > You will have to look it up, but you have a drain into the tank on the
> > galley side and I can't begin to tell you how to find it. The two on the
> > head side were behind the potable tank so all I had to do was completely
> > dismantle the coach back there to get the tank out.
> >
> > There is an important step in dropping the tank. You have to remove the
> > pot and then unscrew the flange underneath from the tank top. This is
> not
> > tough to do if you take a 2x4 less that two feet long and drill hole for
> > the pot studs. That is your new wrench to unscrew the pot's stand pipe.
> >
> > It does not matter how carefully you drained the tank, it will spill
> > something during the process.
> >
> > What a great Father's Day you have lined up.
> >
> > Matt
> > --
> > Matt & Mary Colie
> > '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air)
> > Now with 4 working Rear Brakes
> > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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>
>
>
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> White Rock BC
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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211254 is a reply to message #211247] Sun, 16 June 2013 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dwayne,

Matt is referring to using a tool such as I posted in my first reply...

If you have to pull the waste tank -- you will need to remove the toilet. I do not know what type of fitting into the tank you may have. On my 73 it is a screw in fitting and I used this home made tool to remove it after pulling the toilet and removing the six wood screws that held the flange.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-special-purpose-tools/p37671-0067.html


Dennis

James Hupy wrote on Sun, 16 June 2013 10:08

Dwayne, the toilet flange is screwed into the fitting in the top of the
waste tank. It is usually very, very tight. The 2 x 4 serves as a long
lever to unscrew the flange that will not go through the opening in the
floor of the coach. You can use other stuff besides a board to do the same
thing. I have some pix I will send you if this is still unclear to you.
Jim Hupy
On Jun 16, 2013 8:01 AM, "dwayne jacobson" <dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Matt
> Not sure what you mean doing with the 2x4 - 2 ft long
> Dwayne
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > dwayne jacobson[1
> > > wrote on Sat, 15 June 2013 20:49]Went and brought our77 Eleganza out of
> > storage and what a SMELL.
> > > It was in Sumas Washington and the Canadian Border Guard insisted in
> > checking it out. I figure she was glad to see me gone. Waste water
> > seeping out of the top of the tank - not mush in the tank but going down
> > hills brought it out.
> > > so what is the best procedure in dropping this tank. besides taking
> the
> > sensor wires off, the connection to the mascerator and the 2 steel bars
> > holding it.
> > > It's the connections to the drains on the top side I am not sure of.
> > > I have to get this done so my daughter can take it to the Oregon Coast
> > end of next week.
> > >
> > > Dwayne Jacobson
> >
> > Dwayne,
> >
> > I do not know about coaches the age of yours, but mine had (HAD) steel
> > nipples as the first thing out of the tank for the galley/head drains and
> > the vent. I fought the stink for a few years before I found that one of
> > those to had complete corroded away and the other was just a little bit
> > behind.
> >
> > You will have to look it up, but you have a drain into the tank on the
> > galley side and I can't begin to tell you how to find it. The two on the
> > head side were behind the potable tank so all I had to do was completely
> > dismantle the coach back there to get the tank out.
> >
> > There is an important step in dropping the tank. You have to remove the
> > pot and then unscrew the flange underneath from the tank top. This is
> not
> > tough to do if you take a 2x4 less that two feet long and drill hole for
> > the pot studs. That is your new wrench to unscrew the pot's stand pipe.
> >
> > It does not matter how carefully you drained the tank, it will spill
> > something during the process.
> >
> > What a great Father's Day you have lined up.
> >
> > Matt
> > --
> > Matt & Mary Colie
> > '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air)
> > Now with 4 working Rear Brakes
> > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
> --
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> White Rock BC
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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211256 is a reply to message #211244] Sun, 16 June 2013 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wrote on Sun, 16 June 2013 11:01]Hi Matt
Not sure what you mean doing with the 2x4 - 2 ft long
Dwayne

Dwayne,

Sorry,
Jim did a better job of explaining. But, if it not clear, come on back here...

Oh, and (in my coach) there are very large flat head wood screws holding the flange to the floor. The tool to remove those is a square drive screwdriver point on a speed wrench (looks like a crank).

And (I just remembered) that 2x4 has to be less than 2', so I guess you should measure before you cut.

Good Luck

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211263 is a reply to message #211247] Sun, 16 June 2013 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dwayne jacobson[1] is currently offline  dwayne jacobson[1]   United States
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Thanks Jim
still uncertain but maybe when I have the Toilet off I will see it.
IN the coach - Eleganza the set up is as follows
From the front drivers side there is a love seat - never ried it in this
manner.
then the kitchen - sink then stove then the shower and vanity and toilet.
then bed behind.
I understand I have to remove the Toilet, Shower Drain I imagine, then
there's the drain from the kithen sink
other than that theres got to be a vent (in the kingsley the vent is across
the isle in the coat closet. )
From\
Drain the tub I/m dawaning



On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:08 AM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dwayne, the toilet flange is screwed into the fitting in the top of the
> waste tank. It is usually very, very tight. The 2 x 4 serves as a long
> lever to unscrew the flange that will not go through the opening in the
> floor of the coach. You can use other stuff besides a board to do the same
> thing. I have some pix I will send you if this is still unclear to you.
> Jim Hupy
> On Jun 16, 2013 8:01 AM, "dwayne jacobson" <dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Matt
> > Not sure what you mean doing with the 2x4 - 2 ft long
> > Dwayne
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > dwayne jacobson[1
> > > > wrote on Sat, 15 June 2013 20:49]Went and brought our77 Eleganza out
> of
> > > storage and what a SMELL.
> > > > It was in Sumas Washington and the Canadian Border Guard insisted in
> > > checking it out. I figure she was glad to see me gone. Waste water
> > > seeping out of the top of the tank - not mush in the tank but going
> down
> > > hills brought it out.
> > > > so what is the best procedure in dropping this tank. besides taking
> > the
> > > sensor wires off, the connection to the mascerator and the 2 steel bars
> > > holding it.
> > > > It's the connections to the drains on the top side I am not sure of.
> > > > I have to get this done so my daughter can take it to the Oregon
> Coast
> > > end of next week.
> > > >
> > > > Dwayne Jacobson
> > >
> > > Dwayne,
> > >
> > > I do not know about coaches the age of yours, but mine had (HAD) steel
> > > nipples as the first thing out of the tank for the galley/head drains
> and
> > > the vent. I fought the stink for a few years before I found that one
> of
> > > those to had complete corroded away and the other was just a little bit
> > > behind.
> > >
> > > You will have to look it up, but you have a drain into the tank on the
> > > galley side and I can't begin to tell you how to find it. The two on
> the
> > > head side were behind the potable tank so all I had to do was
> completely
> > > dismantle the coach back there to get the tank out.
> > >
> > > There is an important step in dropping the tank. You have to remove
> the
> > > pot and then unscrew the flange underneath from the tank top. This is
> > not
> > > tough to do if you take a 2x4 less that two feet long and drill hole
> for
> > > the pot studs. That is your new wrench to unscrew the pot's stand
> pipe.
> > >
> > > It does not matter how carefully you drained the tank, it will spill
> > > something during the process.
> > >
> > > What a great Father's Day you have lined up.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > > --
> > > Matt & Mary Colie
> > > '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air)
> > > Now with 4 working Rear Brakes
> > > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211266 is a reply to message #211254] Sun, 16 June 2013 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dwayne jacobson[1] is currently offline  dwayne jacobson[1]   United States
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Dennis

Got it - not having my face into the toilet hole - I now understand the
need to have this tool to unscrew and screw it up
Dwayne


On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>wrote:

>
>
> Dwayne,
>
> Matt is referring to using a tool such as I posted in my first reply...
>
> If you have to pull the waste tank -- you will need to remove the toilet.
> I do not know what type of fitting into the tank you may have. On my 73 it
> is a screw in fitting and I used this home made tool to remove it after
> pulling the toilet and removing the six wood screws that held the flange.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-special-purpose-tools/p37671-0067.html
>
>
> Dennis
>
> James Hupy wrote on Sun, 16 June 2013 10:08
> > Dwayne, the toilet flange is screwed into the fitting in the top of the
> > waste tank. It is usually very, very tight. The 2 x 4 serves as a long
> > lever to unscrew the flange that will not go through the opening in the
> > floor of the coach. You can use other stuff besides a board to do the
> same
> > thing. I have some pix I will send you if this is still unclear to you.
> > Jim Hupy
> > On Jun 16, 2013 8:01 AM, "dwayne jacobson" <dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Matt
> > > Not sure what you mean doing with the 2x4 - 2 ft long
> > > Dwayne
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > dwayne jacobson[1
> > > > > wrote on Sat, 15 June 2013 20:49]Went and brought our77 Eleganza
> out of
> > > > storage and what a SMELL.
> > > > > It was in Sumas Washington and the Canadian Border Guard insisted
> in
> > > > checking it out. I figure she was glad to see me gone. Waste water
> > > > seeping out of the top of the tank - not mush in the tank but going
> down
> > > > hills brought it out.
> > > > > so what is the best procedure in dropping this tank. besides
> taking
> > > the
> > > > sensor wires off, the connection to the mascerator and the 2 steel
> bars
> > > > holding it.
> > > > > It's the connections to the drains on the top side I am not sure
> of.
> > > > > I have to get this done so my daughter can take it to the Oregon
> Coast
> > > > end of next week.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dwayne Jacobson
> > > >
> > > > Dwayne,
> > > >
> > > > I do not know about coaches the age of yours, but mine had (HAD)
> steel
> > > > nipples as the first thing out of the tank for the galley/head
> drains and
> > > > the vent. I fought the stink for a few years before I found that
> one of
> > > > those to had complete corroded away and the other was just a little
> bit
> > > > behind.
> > > >
> > > > You will have to look it up, but you have a drain into the tank on
> the
> > > > galley side and I can't begin to tell you how to find it. The two
> on the
> > > > head side were behind the potable tank so all I had to do was
> completely
> > > > dismantle the coach back there to get the tank out.
> > > >
> > > > There is an important step in dropping the tank. You have to remove
> the
> > > > pot and then unscrew the flange underneath from the tank top. This
> is
> > > not
> > > > tough to do if you take a 2x4 less that two feet long and drill hole
> for
> > > > the pot studs. That is your new wrench to unscrew the pot's stand
> pipe.
> > > >
> > > > It does not matter how carefully you drained the tank, it will spill
> > > > something during the process.
> > > >
> > > > What a great Father's Day you have lined up.
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > > --
> > > > Matt & Mary Colie
> > > > '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air)
> > > > Now with 4 working Rear Brakes
> > > > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > White Rock BC
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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211268 is a reply to message #211263] Sun, 16 June 2013 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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  Sounds like a GMC rear twin, not the usual Eleganza 2  26-3 floor plan.


>Thanks Jim
>still uncertain but maybe when I have the Toilet off I will see it.
>IN the coach - Eleganza the set up is as follows
>From the front drivers side there is a love seat - never ried it in this
>manner.
>then the kitchen - sink then stove then the shower and vanity and toilet.
>then bed behind.
>I understand I have to remove the Toilet, Shower Drain I imagine, then
>there's the drain from the kithen sink
>other than that theres got to be a vent (in the kingsley the vent is across
>the isle in the coat closet. )
>From\
>Drain the tub I/m dawaning
>
>
>
>On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:08 AM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dwayne, the toilet flange is screwed into the fitting in the top of the
>> waste tank. It is usually very, very tight. The 2 x 4 serves as a long
>> lever to unscrew the flange that will not go through the opening in the
>> floor of the coach. You can use other stuff besides a board to do the same
>> thing. I have some pix I will send you if this is still unclear to you.
>> Jim Hupy
>> On Jun 16, 2013 8:01 AM, "dwayne jacobson" <dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Matt
>> > Not sure what you mean doing with the 2x4 - 2 ft long
>> > Dwayne
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > dwayne jacobson[1
>> > > > wrote on Sat, 15 June 2013 20:49]Went and brought our77 Eleganza out
>> of
>> > > storage and what a SMELL.
>> > > > It was in Sumas Washington and the Canadian Border Guard insisted in
>> > > checking it out.  I figure she was glad to see me gone.  Waste water
>> > > seeping out of the top of the tank - not mush in the tank but going
>> down
>> > > hills brought it out.
>> > > > so what is the best procedure in dropping this tank.  besides taking
>> > the
>> > > sensor wires off, the connection to the mascerator and the 2 steel bars
>> > > holding it.
>> > > > It's the connections to the drains on the top side I am not sure of.
>> > > > I have to get this done so my daughter can take it to the Oregon
>> Coast
>> > > end of next week.
>> > > >
>> > > > Dwayne Jacobson
>> > >
>> > > Dwayne,
>> > >
>> > > I do not know about coaches the age of yours, but mine had (HAD) steel
>> > > nipples as the first thing out of the tank for the galley/head drains
>> and
>> > > the vent.  I fought the stink for a few years before I found that one
>> of
>> > > those to had complete corroded away and the other was just a little bit
>> > > behind.
>> > >
>> > > You will have to look it up, but you have a drain into the tank on the
>> > > galley side and I can't begin to tell you how to find it.  The two on
>> the
>> > > head side were behind the potable tank so all I had to do was
>> completely
>> > > dismantle the coach back there to get the tank out.
>> > >
>> > > There is an important step in dropping the tank.  You have to remove
>> the
>> > > pot and then unscrew the flange underneath from the tank top.  This is
>> > not
>> > > tough to do if you take a 2x4 less that two feet long and drill hole
>> for
>> > > the pot studs.  That is your new wrench to unscrew the pot's stand
>> pipe.
>> > >
>> > > It does not matter how carefully you drained the tank, it will spill
>> > > something during the process.
>> > >
>> > > What a great Father's Day you have lined up.
>> > >
>> > > Matt
>> > > --
>> > > Matt & Mary Colie
>> > > '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air)
>> > > Now with 4 working Rear Brakes
>> > > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > GMCnet mailing list
>> > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > White Rock BC
>> > Cell: 604-644-8090
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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211280 is a reply to message #211268] Sun, 16 June 2013 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dwayne jacobson[1] is currently offline  dwayne jacobson[1]   United States
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the eleganza has a kingsize bed in the rear. Our kingsley is almost
identical but has Twins.
We prefer the twins - don't have to crawl over each other to go to the
bathroom but enough room to share romance then back to the twins. Ouch!!!!
ears burning
Dwayne


On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Norm Bowker <bowks43@rogers.com> wrote:

>
>
> Sounds like a GMC rear twin, not the usual Eleganza 2 26-3 floor plan.
>
>
> >Thanks Jim
> >still uncertain but maybe when I have the Toilet off I will see it.
> >IN the coach - Eleganza the set up is as follows
> >From the front drivers side there is a love seat - never ried it in this
> >manner.
> >then the kitchen - sink then stove then the shower and vanity and toilet.
> >then bed behind.
> >I understand I have to remove the Toilet, Shower Drain I imagine, then
> >there's the drain from the kithen sink
> >other than that theres got to be a vent (in the kingsley the vent is
> across
> >the isle in the coat closet. )
> >From\
> >Drain the tub I/m dawaning
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:08 AM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dwayne, the toilet flange is screwed into the fitting in the top of the
> >> waste tank. It is usually very, very tight. The 2 x 4 serves as a long
> >> lever to unscrew the flange that will not go through the opening in the
> >> floor of the coach. You can use other stuff besides a board to do the
> same
> >> thing. I have some pix I will send you if this is still unclear to you.
> >> Jim Hupy
> >> On Jun 16, 2013 8:01 AM, "dwayne jacobson" <dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Matt
> >> > Not sure what you mean doing with the 2x4 - 2 ft long
> >> > Dwayne
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > dwayne jacobson[1
> >> > > > wrote on Sat, 15 June 2013 20:49]Went and brought our77 Eleganza
> out
> >> of
> >> > > storage and what a SMELL.
> >> > > > It was in Sumas Washington and the Canadian Border Guard insisted
> in
> >> > > checking it out. I figure she was glad to see me gone. Waste water
> >> > > seeping out of the top of the tank - not mush in the tank but going
> >> down
> >> > > hills brought it out.
> >> > > > so what is the best procedure in dropping this tank. besides
> taking
> >> > the
> >> > > sensor wires off, the connection to the mascerator and the 2 steel
> bars
> >> > > holding it.
> >> > > > It's the connections to the drains on the top side I am not sure
> of.
> >> > > > I have to get this done so my daughter can take it to the Oregon
> >> Coast
> >> > > end of next week.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dwayne Jacobson
> >> > >
> >> > > Dwayne,
> >> > >
> >> > > I do not know about coaches the age of yours, but mine had (HAD)
> steel
> >> > > nipples as the first thing out of the tank for the galley/head
> drains
> >> and
> >> > > the vent. I fought the stink for a few years before I found that
> one
> >> of
> >> > > those to had complete corroded away and the other was just a little
> bit
> >> > > behind.
> >> > >
> >> > > You will have to look it up, but you have a drain into the tank on
> the
> >> > > galley side and I can't begin to tell you how to find it. The two
> on
> >> the
> >> > > head side were behind the potable tank so all I had to do was
> >> completely
> >> > > dismantle the coach back there to get the tank out.
> >> > >
> >> > > There is an important step in dropping the tank. You have to remove
> >> the
> >> > > pot and then unscrew the flange underneath from the tank top. This
> is
> >> > not
> >> > > tough to do if you take a 2x4 less that two feet long and drill hole
> >> for
> >> > > the pot studs. That is your new wrench to unscrew the pot's stand
> >> pipe.
> >> > >
> >> > > It does not matter how carefully you drained the tank, it will spill
> >> > > something during the process.
> >> > >
> >> > > What a great Father's Day you have lined up.
> >> > >
> >> > > Matt
> >> > > --
> >> > > Matt & Mary Colie
> >> > > '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air)
> >> > > Now with 4 working Rear Brakes
> >> > > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > GMCnet mailing list
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> >> >
> >> >
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> >> > White Rock BC
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Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211329 is a reply to message #211280] Sun, 16 June 2013 23:04 Go to previous message
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Is the king side to side ...or front to back...? If front to back ,then no one needs to crawl over the other...
Re: [GMCnet] dropping waste tank [message #211330 is a reply to message #211191] Sun, 16 June 2013 15:18 Go to previous message
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Being king size means we can sleep side to side or front to back. Either one crawls over or you bum shinny out. Get the picture.
Dwayne




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Is the king side to side ...or front to back...?  If front to back ,then no one needs to crawl over the other...
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