| Window Question..... [message #210391] |
Sat, 08 June 2013 19:28  |
mojoe
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I just finished cleaning, and painting all my window frames. Also but new weather stripping in all windows. All windows open with a single finger.. except the rear on the drivers side. When I bought "Odie" and starting the demo I found a lot of glass in the rear. At that time I noticed that window had a different handle latch. That window was the last one I did. My question is
The sliding glass part has been replaced but the rest of the window is original. But what I find is the arch of the glass is wrong. It bows out more then the others. The only way it will come to even try and close is to cut and remove the outside part of the weather strip and let the glass rub against the Aluminum frame. It will close but not latch but a bear to open because its fits tight against the frame. I guess it could be a window that never opens. and just leave it alone. But I am picky about things like that and it bothers me because it does not fit right.
Any ideas other then tearing the window out and replacing?
Joe Kemenczky..
1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles..
"When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain.
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| Re: Window Question..... [message #210564 is a reply to message #210560] |
Mon, 10 June 2013 09:01  |
tphipps
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Somewhere in the 75 model year, the window design changed. My first Avion had the second generation windows and my current Avion has (had, down to only one) the first generation. The two types are interchanible as complete units, but individual parts are not interchangible between generations.
All Avions are 1975 models.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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| Re: Window Question..... [message #210569 is a reply to message #210565] |
Mon, 10 June 2013 09:58 |
mojoe
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Well the window Lottery hasn't hit yet so I don't get new windows. so sad.. Not sure if my windows are early or late style. Just know that the sliding glass curve is more on the one that was replaced. The height seems fine. If I cut the sides off the weather strip and leave the bottom inside it slides fine till it gets to the frame. Then it just wedges in tight.
Thinking I might have early windows, Odie was built early 75. And the metal frames are in sections.
I kind of like the original style windows anyway.. Let a lot of breeze in.
Joe Kemenczky..
1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles..
"When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain.
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| Re: Window Question..... [message #210586 is a reply to message #210569] |
Mon, 10 June 2013 12:57 |
tphipps
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The give away on window generation is the direction the sliding portion of the window slides. If it slides to the rear, and overlaps on the outside of the fixed portion, it is first generation. Second generation slides forward and the sliding portion is inside the fixed portion. Latch on the first generation is at the front of the window, second generation is in the middle.
Doing a window installation of the GMC Enhancements window, I discovered that the second party Transmode builders rough cut some of the window opening, instead of the GMC machine cut window opening.
Tom, MS Ii
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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| Re: Window Question..... [message #210656 is a reply to message #210569] |
Tue, 11 June 2013 04:49 |
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mike miller
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| toyomojoe wrote on Mon, 10 June 2013 07:58 |
... Thinking I might have early windows, Odie was built early 75. And the metal frames are in sections.
I kind of like the original style windows anyway.. Let a lot of breeze in.
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The "metal frames are in sections" ID's your windows... early style.
Both OEM types allow the same airflow. The second (and the last OEM) style have several advantages over the early windows. First and foremost, they leak less. Another advantage is being able to open the window without moving the screen. With my '73, if closing more than one window, I normally just go outside to close them. it is just that much easier. Not with the '78, I stay inside when closing the windows. 
If you can find the late style window(s) cheap, from a parted out coach or from someone moving to modern (non-OEM) windows, it would be a nice upgrade.
Finding them at a good price at a point in your rebuild that make sense to install them is about the only issue. If you do (find them that is) the discussion to upgrade is a "no-brainer."
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
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