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[GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210127] Thu, 06 June 2013 19:24 Go to next message
Wil Sinclair is currently offline  Wil Sinclair   United States
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Howdy, all. I'm in the market for a GMC Motorhome. There's one I've
looked at that seems like a decent deal at $7500. The interior was
done by Avion, and if there is a layout name I don't know what it is.
I was hoping someone on this list could give me a heads up if any the
following problems are big red flags:

1) The owner had some trouble starting it up. They don't use it
anymore, but he said he goes to storage every week to start it. He
started it after waiting about 5 minutes. Looking around the web, it
seems like this could be a fuel pump thing. Is there anything I should
be checking that would be expensive to fix?

2) The interior was "redone," but I think everything but the cabinet
faces and the upholstery is original. Some of the wall panels don't
seem to be affixed to the frame. It looks like there were originally
rivets, and some of those holes now have screws in them to hold them
in place.

3) Some electrical stuff for the interior, like lights, etc., is
missing and a few wires are sticking out. This doesn't seem like a big
deal to fix, but maybe I'm missing something, too. :) Is it hard to
get parts like a new fan for a side shower (separate from the toilet)?

4) It has around 100k miles, and the transmission has been rebuilt.
The engine, however, has not. Should I expect an engine rebuild in the
short term? If so, does anyone know a ballpark for how much that would
cost?

5) The bottom didn't look corroded, but there was dirt and a little
rust. Should I worry about the rust?

6) It only has one battery for the engine. I gather that there are
usually two batteries mounted side-by-side. I'm assuming adding a
battery won't cost that much.

7) There is some minor water damage under the driver's side sliding
window. It looks like it may have been left open when it shouldn't
have been; no signs of leaks. The plywood floor directly under that
leak has a little dry rot. Not more than a few square inches. There is
also some dry rot under a hole in the linoleum by the door. The hole
looks like it is just wear and tear, and the dry rot/trauma is again a
few square inches.

8) The generator is an Onan Microlite 4000, which the owner told me
was a replacement for the original. He said that he couldn't start it
because it didn't have a battery hooked up, but I will insist that he
does start it up before I hand over the check.

9) I couldn't check the water system because the tanks were empty. The
owner said we could just hook up the water at his house to test the
water system. Should I insist that we fill the tanks and check both
the clean water and waste water tanks. Is there anything in particular
I should be testing? I don't see why that's an unreasonable request,
but it seemed like there was some resistance to that idea from the
owner.

10) He did show me the leveling system, and the airbags looked fine to
me. They are the single airbags for both wheels (hope that makes
sense).

That's all I can think of now. I have pictures of everything I could
get to, if they might help. For this price, I expect there to be
issues; I just would like to know how much I'm going to be shelling
out to fix them. I would really appreciate any insight. I'm looking
forward to being an active newbie on this list soon. :)

Thank you!
,Wil
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210128 is a reply to message #210127] Thu, 06 June 2013 19:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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I would keep looking if I were you.
Too many things wrong for that price.
Where are you located?

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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210129 is a reply to message #210127] Thu, 06 June 2013 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i think you should post your location and see if anyone is available to look at this with you. Most gmcer are willing to help each other, and you would be amased what you would learn fro m someone who has been there done that.
otherwise, I agree price may be a little high based o n your list, but in todays market, sellars can get hungrey


brian asheboro, nc 75 eleganza, 74 build 119k miles and counting, DOG HOUSE
Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210130 is a reply to message #210127] Thu, 06 June 2013 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir: welcome.. Avions were 1975 only, point dist, dry baths, rear twins unless it is a 23, rare.
http://www.bdub.net/publications/Avion/Avion.htm
http://www.bdub.net/publications/Avion2/avion-int-261.htm
http://www.bdub.net/publications/Avion2/avion-int-231.htm
probably a 26, there is an extra front step for ski storage accessed from outside pass side. Yes check the on board water system, as in tank not leaking, Avion only I believe? Hard to start is kinda common if they sit. Gas seems to drain all the way back to the tanks and takes a while for the pump to pick it up and fill carb. Maybe fill the carb with gas thru the vent tube next to the stud for the air cleaner and make sure the choke closes. Check for rust under the battery box and frame, rear frame around bogies. The Onan usually is started by the house battery which you say it don`t have, so take an extra 12v battery to test inside system also. If I were a serious buyer, I would think the seller would be glad to demonstrate both water systems and dump procedure. I would also want to drive it about 30-50 miles, 10 gallon of fresh hi test, check for leaks. Avions are nice coaches and one of the most popular floor plans.


C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210132 is a reply to message #210127] Thu, 06 June 2013 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wil -
 
Where are ya, dude?  There may well be a knowledgeable owner close by who can help inspect. 
By all measn check the water system, both by hose and by the fitted pump and tank.  Likewise, the blackwater and (if fitted) graywater tanks.
Check the date code on the tires.  Iver 5 or 6 years old, replace them.  They normally rot before the tread wears out.
Properly cared for, 100K isn't  frightening for the engine.  I'd compression check and have a look at oil pressure and temp on a five or ten mile run... enough to get it up to temperature.
(Quick n dirty compression check:  Listen to the engine turning over on the starter.  It should crank at a constant speed.  A repetitive change indicates a cylinder or cylinders with different compression than the others.)
Look for leaks of brake fluid on the backing plates.  Look at the inner and outer CV boots for cracks or grease throwing. 
Microlite?  Not only hear it run, load it and be sure it will carry a load.  A couple or three electric heaters or the like.
Check >all< the fuel lines - if they are original, they must be replaced, they're a fire hazard.
 
Others will have other (and better) suggestrions.
 
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
Braselton, GA

From: Wil Sinclair <wllm@wllm.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . .


Howdy, all. I'm in the market for a GMC Motorhome. There's one I've
looked at that seems like a decent deal at $7500. The interior was
done by Avion, and if there is a layout name I don't know what it is.
I was hoping someone on this list could give me a heads up if any the
following problems are big red flags:

1) The owner had some trouble starting it up. They don't use it
anymore, but he said he goes to storage every week to start it. He
started it after waiting about 5 minutes. Looking around the web, it
seems like this could be a fuel pump thing. Is there anything I should
be checking that would be expensive to fix?

2) The interior was "redone," but I think everything but the cabinet
faces and the upholstery is original. Some of the wall panels don't
seem to be affixed to the frame. It looks like there were originally
rivets, and some of those holes now have screws in them to hold them
in place.

3) Some electrical stuff for the interior, like lights, etc., is
missing and a few wires are sticking out. This doesn't seem like a big
deal to fix, but maybe I'm missing something, too. :) Is it hard to
get parts like a new fan for a side shower (separate from the toilet)?

4) It has around 100k miles, and the transmission has been rebuilt.
The engine, however, has not. Should I expect an engine rebuild in the
short term? If so, does anyone know a ballpark for how much that would
cost?

5) The bottom didn't look corroded, but there was dirt and a little
rust. Should I worry about the rust?

6) It only has one battery for the engine. I gather that there are
usually two batteries mounted side-by-side. I'm assuming adding a
battery won't cost that much.

7) There is some minor water damage under the driver's side sliding
window. It looks like it may have been left open when it shouldn't
have been; no signs of leaks. The plywood floor directly under that
leak has a little dry rot. Not more than a few square inches. There is
also some dry rot under a hole in the linoleum by the door. The hole
looks like it is just wear and tear, and the dry rot/trauma is again a
few square inches.

8) The generator is an Onan Microlite 4000, which the owner told me
was a replacement for the original. He said that he couldn't start it
because it didn't have a battery hooked up, but I will insist that he
does start it up before I hand over the check.

9) I couldn't check the water system because the tanks were empty. The
owner said we could just hook up the water at his house to test the
water system. Should I insist that we fill the tanks and check both
the clean water and waste water tanks. Is there anything in particular
I should be testing? I don't see why that's an unreasonable request,
but it seemed like there was some resistance to that idea from the
owner.

10) He did show me the leveling system, and the airbags looked fine to
me. They are the single airbags for both wheels (hope that makes
sense).

That's all I can think of now. I have pictures of everything I could
get to, if they might help. For this price, I expect there to be
issues; I just would like to know how much I'm going to be shelling
out to fix them. I would really appreciate any insight. I'm looking
forward to being an active newbie on this list soon. :)

Thank you!
,Wil
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210133 is a reply to message #210132] Thu, 06 June 2013 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Item #6. Avion had a second battery in the back under the driver's side twin bed. It's in the steel box, vented to the outside under he license plate.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210136 is a reply to message #210133] Thu, 06 June 2013 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you Johnny B...<g>

Where are ya, Wil??


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Item #6. Avion had a second battery in the back under the driver's side
> twin bed. It's in the steel box, vented to the outside under he license
> plate.
> Tom, MS II
> --
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> Vicksburg, MS. 3.7 miles from I-20
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210139 is a reply to message #210127] Thu, 06 June 2013 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cadillackeeper is currently offline  Cadillackeeper   United States
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Keep Looking...I mean it. Prices can go from $500-$200000.

Get what you really want,its out there. 23 or 26 side bath rear bath full bed twins

I always tell people to get the late model 1976 which also early 77 still had option 455
and the blasting hard blowing Stock Factory Air Conditioning.

Best of the best you will never regret it!!!


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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210145 is a reply to message #210136] Thu, 06 June 2013 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wil Sinclair is currently offline  Wil Sinclair   United States
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Wow. You guys really are helpful. :)

I'm live near San Jose. The coach I mentioned is in Gilroy.

Thanks!
,Wil

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Johnny B...<g>
>
> Where are ya, Wil??
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Item #6. Avion had a second battery in the back under the driver's side
>> twin bed. It's in the steel box, vented to the outside under he license
>> plate.
>> Tom, MS II
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210148 is a reply to message #210127] Thu, 06 June 2013 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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Wil,

The main issue I would be concerned about is frame corrosion. A little surface rust is common, but if there is some serious cancer around the bogies, that would be a deal breaker under most circumstances.

What it might come down to is how much you enjoy working on things. None of those issues sound serious to me. but then I actually enjoy wrenching and having projects to do. There seem to be endless upgrades that can be done to these coaches.

Don't be afraid to low ball the seller on the price. He is obviously trying to get all he can for it, but often the seller's expectation of the coach's value is unrealistic. All he can say is no. Maybe start with an offer of half what he is asking and work your way up from there.

Definitely make an attempt to check out ALL the systems you can. When I bought my coach, I bought it from a guy I trusted and he explained everything to me, but it still needed extensive mechanical repairs and upgrades. The rule of thumb around here is that it takes about $25,000.00 to have a dependable, safe coach that you can use with confidence. Some on this list have surpassed that number and never achieved that goal.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210152 is a reply to message #210132] Thu, 06 June 2013 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wil Sinclair is currently offline  Wil Sinclair   United States
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That reminds me. We drove it about 10 miles, and all seemed OK. Then,
as we were pulling back in to the RV storage place, the temp gauge
maxed out. The owner acted like it was the first time he'd seen that.
When the engine idled a bit, it went back down. It changed so fast,
that I just figured it was a problem with the gauge (all the gauges
were replaced by the guy the current owner bought it from).

The driver-side windshield also has a large cracked that has been
epoxied. I was figuring in a new windshield at $500 to be replaced as
soon as I bought it; it's a safety thing.

Finally, I can't remember if I mentioned that all the plastic window
framing on the interior is missing. The owner said there's a company
that manufactures them, and that they are around $250 for all the
windows. That sounds like a pretty low price to me for a small-run
manufactured part, but I did find the supplier online (and now I've
forgotten the name, Doh!).

Thanks again, guys!
,Wil

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> Wil -
>
> Where are ya, dude? There may well be a knowledgeable owner close by who can help inspect.
> By all measn check the water system, both by hose and by the fitted pump and tank. Likewise, the blackwater and (if fitted) graywater tanks.
> Check the date code on the tires. Iver 5 or 6 years old, replace them. They normally rot before the tread wears out.
> Properly cared for, 100K isn't frightening for the engine. I'd compression check and have a look at oil pressure and temp on a five or ten mile run... enough to get it up to temperature.
> (Quick n dirty compression check: Listen to the engine turning over on the starter. It should crank at a constant speed. A repetitive change indicates a cylinder or cylinders with different compression than the others.)
> Look for leaks of brake fluid on the backing plates. Look at the inner and outer CV boots for cracks or grease throwing.
> Microlite? Not only hear it run, load it and be sure it will carry a load. A couple or three electric heaters or the like.
> Check >all< the fuel lines - if they are original, they must be replaced, they're a fire hazard.
>
> Others will have other (and better) suggestrions.
>
> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
> Braselton, GA
>
> From: Wil Sinclair <wllm@wllm.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:24 PM
> Subject: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . .
>
>
> Howdy, all. I'm in the market for a GMC Motorhome. There's one I've
> looked at that seems like a decent deal at $7500. The interior was
> done by Avion, and if there is a layout name I don't know what it is.
> I was hoping someone on this list could give me a heads up if any the
> following problems are big red flags:
>
> 1) The owner had some trouble starting it up. They don't use it
> anymore, but he said he goes to storage every week to start it. He
> started it after waiting about 5 minutes. Looking around the web, it
> seems like this could be a fuel pump thing. Is there anything I should
> be checking that would be expensive to fix?
>
> 2) The interior was "redone," but I think everything but the cabinet
> faces and the upholstery is original. Some of the wall panels don't
> seem to be affixed to the frame. It looks like there were originally
> rivets, and some of those holes now have screws in them to hold them
> in place.
>
> 3) Some electrical stuff for the interior, like lights, etc., is
> missing and a few wires are sticking out. This doesn't seem like a big
> deal to fix, but maybe I'm missing something, too. :) Is it hard to
> get parts like a new fan for a side shower (separate from the toilet)?
>
> 4) It has around 100k miles, and the transmission has been rebuilt.
> The engine, however, has not. Should I expect an engine rebuild in the
> short term? If so, does anyone know a ballpark for how much that would
> cost?
>
> 5) The bottom didn't look corroded, but there was dirt and a little
> rust. Should I worry about the rust?
>
> 6) It only has one battery for the engine. I gather that there are
> usually two batteries mounted side-by-side. I'm assuming adding a
> battery won't cost that much.
>
> 7) There is some minor water damage under the driver's side sliding
> window. It looks like it may have been left open when it shouldn't
> have been; no signs of leaks. The plywood floor directly under that
> leak has a little dry rot. Not more than a few square inches. There is
> also some dry rot under a hole in the linoleum by the door. The hole
> looks like it is just wear and tear, and the dry rot/trauma is again a
> few square inches.
>
> 8) The generator is an Onan Microlite 4000, which the owner told me
> was a replacement for the original. He said that he couldn't start it
> because it didn't have a battery hooked up, but I will insist that he
> does start it up before I hand over the check.
>
> 9) I couldn't check the water system because the tanks were empty. The
> owner said we could just hook up the water at his house to test the
> water system. Should I insist that we fill the tanks and check both
> the clean water and waste water tanks. Is there anything in particular
> I should be testing? I don't see why that's an unreasonable request,
> but it seemed like there was some resistance to that idea from the
> owner.
>
> 10) He did show me the leveling system, and the airbags looked fine to
> me. They are the single airbags for both wheels (hope that makes
> sense).
>
> That's all I can think of now. I have pictures of everything I could
> get to, if they might help. For this price, I expect there to be
> issues; I just would like to know how much I'm going to be shelling
> out to fix them. I would really appreciate any insight. I'm looking
> forward to being an active newbie on this list soon. :)
>
> Thank you!
> ,Wil
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210153 is a reply to message #210152] Thu, 06 June 2013 23:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ronald Pottol is currently offline  Ronald Pottol   United States
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I believe the windshield is $800 plus shipping and installation.
On Jun 6, 2013 9:34 PM, "Wil Sinclair" <wllm@wllm.com> wrote:

> That reminds me. We drove it about 10 miles, and all seemed OK. Then,
> as we were pulling back in to the RV storage place, the temp gauge
> maxed out. The owner acted like it was the first time he'd seen that.
> When the engine idled a bit, it went back down. It changed so fast,
> that I just figured it was a problem with the gauge (all the gauges
> were replaced by the guy the current owner bought it from).
>
> The driver-side windshield also has a large cracked that has been
> epoxied. I was figuring in a new windshield at $500 to be replaced as
> soon as I bought it; it's a safety thing.
>
> Finally, I can't remember if I mentioned that all the plastic window
> framing on the interior is missing. The owner said there's a company
> that manufactures them, and that they are around $250 for all the
> windows. That sounds like a pretty low price to me for a small-run
> manufactured part, but I did find the supplier online (and now I've
> forgotten the name, Doh!).
>
> Thanks again, guys!
> ,Wil
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
> wrote:
> > Wil -
> >
> > Where are ya, dude? There may well be a knowledgeable owner close by
> who can help inspect.
> > By all measn check the water system, both by hose and by the fitted pump
> and tank. Likewise, the blackwater and (if fitted) graywater tanks.
> > Check the date code on the tires. Iver 5 or 6 years old, replace them.
> They normally rot before the tread wears out.
> > Properly cared for, 100K isn't frightening for the engine. I'd
> compression check and have a look at oil pressure and temp on a five or ten
> mile run... enough to get it up to temperature.
> > (Quick n dirty compression check: Listen to the engine turning over on
> the starter. It should crank at a constant speed. A repetitive change
> indicates a cylinder or cylinders with different compression than the
> others.)
> > Look for leaks of brake fluid on the backing plates. Look at the inner
> and outer CV boots for cracks or grease throwing.
> > Microlite? Not only hear it run, load it and be sure it will carry a
> load. A couple or three electric heaters or the like.
> > Check >all< the fuel lines - if they are original, they must be
> replaced, they're a fire hazard.
> >
> > Others will have other (and better) suggestrions.
> >
> > --johnny
> > '76 23' transmode norris
> > '76 palm beach
> > Braselton, GA
> >
> > From: Wil Sinclair <wllm@wllm.com>
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:24 PM
> > Subject: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . .
> >
> >
> > Howdy, all. I'm in the market for a GMC Motorhome. There's one I've
> > looked at that seems like a decent deal at $7500. The interior was
> > done by Avion, and if there is a layout name I don't know what it is.
> > I was hoping someone on this list could give me a heads up if any the
> > following problems are big red flags:
> >
> > 1) The owner had some trouble starting it up. They don't use it
> > anymore, but he said he goes to storage every week to start it. He
> > started it after waiting about 5 minutes. Looking around the web, it
> > seems like this could be a fuel pump thing. Is there anything I should
> > be checking that would be expensive to fix?
> >
> > 2) The interior was "redone," but I think everything but the cabinet
> > faces and the upholstery is original. Some of the wall panels don't
> > seem to be affixed to the frame. It looks like there were originally
> > rivets, and some of those holes now have screws in them to hold them
> > in place.
> >
> > 3) Some electrical stuff for the interior, like lights, etc., is
> > missing and a few wires are sticking out. This doesn't seem like a big
> > deal to fix, but maybe I'm missing something, too. :) Is it hard to
> > get parts like a new fan for a side shower (separate from the toilet)?
> >
> > 4) It has around 100k miles, and the transmission has been rebuilt.
> > The engine, however, has not. Should I expect an engine rebuild in the
> > short term? If so, does anyone know a ballpark for how much that would
> > cost?
> >
> > 5) The bottom didn't look corroded, but there was dirt and a little
> > rust. Should I worry about the rust?
> >
> > 6) It only has one battery for the engine. I gather that there are
> > usually two batteries mounted side-by-side. I'm assuming adding a
> > battery won't cost that much.
> >
> > 7) There is some minor water damage under the driver's side sliding
> > window. It looks like it may have been left open when it shouldn't
> > have been; no signs of leaks. The plywood floor directly under that
> > leak has a little dry rot. Not more than a few square inches. There is
> > also some dry rot under a hole in the linoleum by the door. The hole
> > looks like it is just wear and tear, and the dry rot/trauma is again a
> > few square inches.
> >
> > 8) The generator is an Onan Microlite 4000, which the owner told me
> > was a replacement for the original. He said that he couldn't start it
> > because it didn't have a battery hooked up, but I will insist that he
> > does start it up before I hand over the check.
> >
> > 9) I couldn't check the water system because the tanks were empty. The
> > owner said we could just hook up the water at his house to test the
> > water system. Should I insist that we fill the tanks and check both
> > the clean water and waste water tanks. Is there anything in particular
> > I should be testing? I don't see why that's an unreasonable request,
> > but it seemed like there was some resistance to that idea from the
> > owner.
> >
> > 10) He did show me the leveling system, and the airbags looked fine to
> > me. They are the single airbags for both wheels (hope that makes
> > sense).
> >
> > That's all I can think of now. I have pictures of everything I could
> > get to, if they might help. For this price, I expect there to be
> > issues; I just would like to know how much I'm going to be shelling
> > out to fix them. I would really appreciate any insight. I'm looking
> > forward to being an active newbie on this list soon. :)
> >
> > Thank you!
> > ,Wil
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Hey, a local boy! You are in one of the best places on earth to own a GMC Motorhome - California. With the only caveat that if its registered as a '76 or newer it is subject to smog laws.

Jim K is right here in Newark. Manny is in San Jose. If you can't work on the coach yourself, then let your checkbook do it.

Fall in love with the coach. Spend some dough to make it safe. Drive it to the coast. Go to Disneyland. Go to Las Vegas. Go to treasure island. Go to Yosemite. Go to the lakes. Go to the redwoods. Go to Tahoe.

Then you'll know what you like, what you hate, and what really matters.

Become another GMC nut-job like so many of us. We are looked at as nutty, but it's a ruse. We know this is the best, least expensive, most stylish, most supported, and continually improved motor coach money can buy. No cool aid. Just reality.

Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
Fremont, CA
1976(ish) Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210157 is a reply to message #210156] Fri, 07 June 2013 00:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wil Sinclair is currently offline  Wil Sinclair   United States
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Yeah, that is one of the perks of the '75 I'm looking at: no smog
certification! I don't know how hard it is to get one of these to
pass, but I know that having to do it every other registration on my
other vehicles has gotten pretty old.

So, I may be nuttier than all of you; I plan to live in it for a few
months- years if the lifestyle suits me and it makes financial sense.
I can park it at beautiful places like Saratoga Springs, pay a few
hundred in rent, and save up a down payment on one of those starter
million dollar homes around here. :) I currently shower at the gym
anyways, so I can get away with minimal bathroom facilities. The other
advantage is that I'm a techie, and the jobs are spread from SF all
along the peninsula to SV + I go to conferences that are within
driving distance a lot. While I'm contracting, there is a huge benefit
to being this mobile. One thing I don't plan to do is street park it;
I want to feel comfortable and at ease in my "home" for as long as I'm
using it that way. Of course, I'll be using it to get to all the great
places we have within driving range here both while I'm using it as a
home and after I get a more permanent and decidedly less mobile house.

Have any of you lived in your GMC? If so, what were your biggest challenges?

,Wil

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hey, a local boy! You are in one of the best places on earth to own a GMC Motorhome - California. With the only caveat that if its registered as a '76 or newer it is subject to smog laws.
>
> Jim K is right here in Newark. Manny is in San Jose. If you can't work on the coach yourself, then let your checkbook do it.
>
> Fall in love with the coach. Spend some dough to make it safe. Drive it to the coast. Go to Disneyland. Go to Las Vegas. Go to treasure island. Go to Yosemite. Go to the lakes. Go to the redwoods. Go to Tahoe.
>
> Then you'll know what you like, what you hate, and what really matters.
>
> Become another GMC nut-job like so many of us. We are looked at as nutty, but it's a ruse. We know this is the best, least expensive, most stylish, most supported, and continually improved motor coach money can buy. No cool aid. Just reality.
>
> Larry Davick
> A Mystery Machine
> Fremont, CA
> 1976(ish) Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210158 is a reply to message #210153] Fri, 07 June 2013 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wil Sinclair is currently offline  Wil Sinclair   United States
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Ouch! Any idea what installation would cost? Would this be something
AppliedGMC would do, or can I take it to any glass shop?

Thanks.
,Wil

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Ronald Pottol <ronaldpottol@gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe the windshield is $800 plus shipping and installation.
> On Jun 6, 2013 9:34 PM, "Wil Sinclair" <wllm@wllm.com> wrote:
>
>> That reminds me. We drove it about 10 miles, and all seemed OK. Then,
>> as we were pulling back in to the RV storage place, the temp gauge
>> maxed out. The owner acted like it was the first time he'd seen that.
>> When the engine idled a bit, it went back down. It changed so fast,
>> that I just figured it was a problem with the gauge (all the gauges
>> were replaced by the guy the current owner bought it from).
>>
>> The driver-side windshield also has a large cracked that has been
>> epoxied. I was figuring in a new windshield at $500 to be replaced as
>> soon as I bought it; it's a safety thing.
>>
>> Finally, I can't remember if I mentioned that all the plastic window
>> framing on the interior is missing. The owner said there's a company
>> that manufactures them, and that they are around $250 for all the
>> windows. That sounds like a pretty low price to me for a small-run
>> manufactured part, but I did find the supplier online (and now I've
>> forgotten the name, Doh!).
>>
>> Thanks again, guys!
>> ,Wil
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Wil -
>> >
>> > Where are ya, dude? There may well be a knowledgeable owner close by
>> who can help inspect.
>> > By all measn check the water system, both by hose and by the fitted pump
>> and tank. Likewise, the blackwater and (if fitted) graywater tanks.
>> > Check the date code on the tires. Iver 5 or 6 years old, replace them.
>> They normally rot before the tread wears out.
>> > Properly cared for, 100K isn't frightening for the engine. I'd
>> compression check and have a look at oil pressure and temp on a five or ten
>> mile run... enough to get it up to temperature.
>> > (Quick n dirty compression check: Listen to the engine turning over on
>> the starter. It should crank at a constant speed. A repetitive change
>> indicates a cylinder or cylinders with different compression than the
>> others.)
>> > Look for leaks of brake fluid on the backing plates. Look at the inner
>> and outer CV boots for cracks or grease throwing.
>> > Microlite? Not only hear it run, load it and be sure it will carry a
>> load. A couple or three electric heaters or the like.
>> > Check >all< the fuel lines - if they are original, they must be
>> replaced, they're a fire hazard.
>> >
>> > Others will have other (and better) suggestrions.
>> >
>> > --johnny
>> > '76 23' transmode norris
>> > '76 palm beach
>> > Braselton, GA
>> >
>> > From: Wil Sinclair <wllm@wllm.com>
>> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:24 PM
>> > Subject: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . .
>> >
>> >
>> > Howdy, all. I'm in the market for a GMC Motorhome. There's one I've
>> > looked at that seems like a decent deal at $7500. The interior was
>> > done by Avion, and if there is a layout name I don't know what it is.
>> > I was hoping someone on this list could give me a heads up if any the
>> > following problems are big red flags:
>> >
>> > 1) The owner had some trouble starting it up. They don't use it
>> > anymore, but he said he goes to storage every week to start it. He
>> > started it after waiting about 5 minutes. Looking around the web, it
>> > seems like this could be a fuel pump thing. Is there anything I should
>> > be checking that would be expensive to fix?
>> >
>> > 2) The interior was "redone," but I think everything but the cabinet
>> > faces and the upholstery is original. Some of the wall panels don't
>> > seem to be affixed to the frame. It looks like there were originally
>> > rivets, and some of those holes now have screws in them to hold them
>> > in place.
>> >
>> > 3) Some electrical stuff for the interior, like lights, etc., is
>> > missing and a few wires are sticking out. This doesn't seem like a big
>> > deal to fix, but maybe I'm missing something, too. :) Is it hard to
>> > get parts like a new fan for a side shower (separate from the toilet)?
>> >
>> > 4) It has around 100k miles, and the transmission has been rebuilt.
>> > The engine, however, has not. Should I expect an engine rebuild in the
>> > short term? If so, does anyone know a ballpark for how much that would
>> > cost?
>> >
>> > 5) The bottom didn't look corroded, but there was dirt and a little
>> > rust. Should I worry about the rust?
>> >
>> > 6) It only has one battery for the engine. I gather that there are
>> > usually two batteries mounted side-by-side. I'm assuming adding a
>> > battery won't cost that much.
>> >
>> > 7) There is some minor water damage under the driver's side sliding
>> > window. It looks like it may have been left open when it shouldn't
>> > have been; no signs of leaks. The plywood floor directly under that
>> > leak has a little dry rot. Not more than a few square inches. There is
>> > also some dry rot under a hole in the linoleum by the door. The hole
>> > looks like it is just wear and tear, and the dry rot/trauma is again a
>> > few square inches.
>> >
>> > 8) The generator is an Onan Microlite 4000, which the owner told me
>> > was a replacement for the original. He said that he couldn't start it
>> > because it didn't have a battery hooked up, but I will insist that he
>> > does start it up before I hand over the check.
>> >
>> > 9) I couldn't check the water system because the tanks were empty. The
>> > owner said we could just hook up the water at his house to test the
>> > water system. Should I insist that we fill the tanks and check both
>> > the clean water and waste water tanks. Is there anything in particular
>> > I should be testing? I don't see why that's an unreasonable request,
>> > but it seemed like there was some resistance to that idea from the
>> > owner.
>> >
>> > 10) He did show me the leveling system, and the airbags looked fine to
>> > me. They are the single airbags for both wheels (hope that makes
>> > sense).
>> >
>> > That's all I can think of now. I have pictures of everything I could
>> > get to, if they might help. For this price, I expect there to be
>> > issues; I just would like to know how much I'm going to be shelling
>> > out to fix them. I would really appreciate any insight. I'm looking
>> > forward to being an active newbie on this list soon. :)
>> >
>> > Thank you!
>> > ,Wil
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210159 is a reply to message #210157] Fri, 07 June 2013 01:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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.Wil,

That doesn’t sound so nutty to me. If you looked at a 23’ coach you could park almost anywhere. Smoging them isn’t too tough if they are complete and running well, but still, a ’75 means you can fuel inject without worry. The computer controlled ignition makes them purr, I’m told.

Never lived in it, never used the shower in it. Many have for extended periods. Dan and Teri winter in their coach many years..


Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA

On Jun 6, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Wil Sinclair wrote:

> Yeah, that is one of the perks of the '75 I'm looking at: no smog
> certification! I don't know how hard it is to get one of these to
> pass, but I know that having to do it every other registration on my
> other vehicles has gotten pretty old.
>
> So, I may be nuttier than all of you; I plan to live in it for a few
> months- years if the lifestyle suits me and it makes financial sense.
> I can park it at beautiful places like Saratoga Springs, pay a few
> hundred in rent, and save up a down payment on one of those starter
> million dollar homes around here. :) I currently shower at the gym
> anyways, so I can get away with minimal bathroom facilities. The other
> advantage is that I'm a techie, and the jobs are spread from SF all
> along the peninsula to SV + I go to conferences that are within
> driving distance a lot. While I'm contracting, there is a huge benefit
> to being this mobile. One thing I don't plan to do is street park it;
> I want to feel comfortable and at ease in my "home" for as long as I'm
> using it that way. Of course, I'll be using it to get to all the great
> places we have within driving range here both while I'm using it as a
> home and after I get a more permanent and decidedly less mobile house.
>
> Have any of you lived in your GMC? If so, what were your biggest challenges?
>
> ,Wil
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210163 is a reply to message #210152] Fri, 07 June 2013 03:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mickeysss is currently offline  mickeysss   United States
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you need a new radiator most likely, bugs and rust. try to stay in warm areas and it is best installation.

mickey :-) 77 palm beach, lots of work to redo and not just do and live with. jimK can give

you a new or used front window without the shipping if you go there, he has one that is chipped a little as well

that may be cheap if i remember right. check th eframe fo rust etc. more here to help better than I, so good luck !

On Jun 6, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Wil Sinclair wrote:

> That reminds me. We drove it about 10 miles, and all seemed OK. Then,
> as we were pulling back in to the RV storage place, the temp gauge
> maxed out. The owner acted like it was the first time he'd seen that.
> When the engine idled a bit, it went back down. It changed so fast,
> that I just figured it was a problem with the gauge (all the gauges
> were replaced by the guy the current owner bought it from).
>
> The driver-side windshield also has a large cracked that has been
> epoxied. I was figuring in a new windshield at $500 to be replaced as
> soon as I bought it; it's a safety thing.
>
> Finally, I can't remember if I mentioned that all the plastic window
> framing on the interior is missing. The owner said there's a company
> that manufactures them, and that they are around $250 for all the
> windows. That sounds like a pretty low price to me for a small-run
> manufactured part, but I did find the supplier online (and now I've
> forgotten the name, Doh!).
>
> Thanks again, guys!
> ,Wil
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
>> Wil -
>>
>> Where are ya, dude? There may well be a knowledgeable owner close by who can help inspect.
>> By all measn check the water system, both by hose and by the fitted pump and tank. Likewise, the blackwater and (if fitted) graywater tanks.
>> Check the date code on the tires. Iver 5 or 6 years old, replace them. They normally rot before the tread wears out.
>> Properly cared for, 100K isn't frightening for the engine. I'd compression check and have a look at oil pressure and temp on a five or ten mile run... enough to get it up to temperature.
>> (Quick n dirty compression check: Listen to the engine turning over on the starter. It should crank at a constant speed. A repetitive change indicates a cylinder or cylinders with different compression than the others.)
>> Look for leaks of brake fluid on the backing plates. Look at the inner and outer CV boots for cracks or grease throwing.
>> Microlite? Not only hear it run, load it and be sure it will carry a load. A couple or three electric heaters or the like.
>> Check >all< the fuel lines - if they are original, they must be replaced, they're a fire hazard.
>>
>> Others will have other (and better) suggestrions.
>>
>> --johnny
>> '76 23' transmode norris
>> '76 palm beach
>> Braselton, GA
>>
>> From: Wil Sinclair <wllm@wllm.com>
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:24 PM
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . .
>>
>>
>> Howdy, all. I'm in the market for a GMC Motorhome. There's one I've
>> looked at that seems like a decent deal at $7500. The interior was
>> done by Avion, and if there is a layout name I don't know what it is.
>> I was hoping someone on this list could give me a heads up if any the
>> following problems are big red flags:
>>
>> 1) The owner had some trouble starting it up. They don't use it
>> anymore, but he said he goes to storage every week to start it. He
>> started it after waiting about 5 minutes. Looking around the web, it
>> seems like this could be a fuel pump thing. Is there anything I should
>> be checking that would be expensive to fix?
>>
>> 2) The interior was "redone," but I think everything but the cabinet
>> faces and the upholstery is original. Some of the wall panels don't
>> seem to be affixed to the frame. It looks like there were originally
>> rivets, and some of those holes now have screws in them to hold them
>> in place.
>>
>> 3) Some electrical stuff for the interior, like lights, etc., is
>> missing and a few wires are sticking out. This doesn't seem like a big
>> deal to fix, but maybe I'm missing something, too. :) Is it hard to
>> get parts like a new fan for a side shower (separate from the toilet)?
>>
>> 4) It has around 100k miles, and the transmission has been rebuilt.
>> The engine, however, has not. Should I expect an engine rebuild in the
>> short term? If so, does anyone know a ballpark for how much that would
>> cost?
>>
>> 5) The bottom didn't look corroded, but there was dirt and a little
>> rust. Should I worry about the rust?
>>
>> 6) It only has one battery for the engine. I gather that there are
>> usually two batteries mounted side-by-side. I'm assuming adding a
>> battery won't cost that much.
>>
>> 7) There is some minor water damage under the driver's side sliding
>> window. It looks like it may have been left open when it shouldn't
>> have been; no signs of leaks. The plywood floor directly under that
>> leak has a little dry rot. Not more than a few square inches. There is
>> also some dry rot under a hole in the linoleum by the door. The hole
>> looks like it is just wear and tear, and the dry rot/trauma is again a
>> few square inches.
>>
>> 8) The generator is an Onan Microlite 4000, which the owner told me
>> was a replacement for the original. He said that he couldn't start it
>> because it didn't have a battery hooked up, but I will insist that he
>> does start it up before I hand over the check.
>>
>> 9) I couldn't check the water system because the tanks were empty. The
>> owner said we could just hook up the water at his house to test the
>> water system. Should I insist that we fill the tanks and check both
>> the clean water and waste water tanks. Is there anything in particular
>> I should be testing? I don't see why that's an unreasonable request,
>> but it seemed like there was some resistance to that idea from the
>> owner.
>>
>> 10) He did show me the leveling system, and the airbags looked fine to
>> me. They are the single airbags for both wheels (hope that makes
>> sense).
>>
>> That's all I can think of now. I have pictures of everything I could
>> get to, if they might help. For this price, I expect there to be
>> issues; I just would like to know how much I'm going to be shelling
>> out to fix them. I would really appreciate any insight. I'm looking
>> forward to being an active newbie on this list soon. :)
>>
>> Thank you!
>> ,Wil
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If it has 100k miles forget it, the motor is about to go. wait around here and look around and get one with a new engine

that needs a trans, and take it to manny. A new motor is equal to a new gmc almost.

look and ask jim K for one or Jim B for one see what you can get rebuilt already. Look around

take your time. You will put 5K in it what ever you get if it is in good shape even. So find someone that dies here

and if you are serious they would love for you to get it to take care of it for the future. look aroound lay low in the weeds

and pounce listen to the big boys here they will help you if you pray for them. Mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.






On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Wil Sinclair wrote:

> Howdy, all. I'm in the market for a GMC Motorhome. There's one I've
> looked at that seems like a decent deal at $7500. The interior was
> done by Avion, and if there is a layout name I don't know what it is.
> I was hoping someone on this list could give me a heads up if any the
> following problems are big red flags:
>
> 1) The owner had some trouble starting it up. They don't use it
> anymore, but he said he goes to storage every week to start it. He
> started it after waiting about 5 minutes. Looking around the web, it
> seems like this could be a fuel pump thing. Is there anything I should
> be checking that would be expensive to fix?
>
> 2) The interior was "redone," but I think everything but the cabinet
> faces and the upholstery is original. Some of the wall panels don't
> seem to be affixed to the frame. It looks like there were originally
> rivets, and some of those holes now have screws in them to hold them
> in place.
>
> 3) Some electrical stuff for the interior, like lights, etc., is
> missing and a few wires are sticking out. This doesn't seem like a big
> deal to fix, but maybe I'm missing something, too. :) Is it hard to
> get parts like a new fan for a side shower (separate from the toilet)?
>
> 4) It has around 100k miles, and the transmission has been rebuilt.
> The engine, however, has not. Should I expect an engine rebuild in the
> short term? If so, does anyone know a ballpark for how much that would
> cost?
>
> 5) The bottom didn't look corroded, but there was dirt and a little
> rust. Should I worry about the rust?
>
> 6) It only has one battery for the engine. I gather that there are
> usually two batteries mounted side-by-side. I'm assuming adding a
> battery won't cost that much.
>
> 7) There is some minor water damage under the driver's side sliding
> window. It looks like it may have been left open when it shouldn't
> have been; no signs of leaks. The plywood floor directly under that
> leak has a little dry rot. Not more than a few square inches. There is
> also some dry rot under a hole in the linoleum by the door. The hole
> looks like it is just wear and tear, and the dry rot/trauma is again a
> few square inches.
>
> 8) The generator is an Onan Microlite 4000, which the owner told me
> was a replacement for the original. He said that he couldn't start it
> because it didn't have a battery hooked up, but I will insist that he
> does start it up before I hand over the check.
>
> 9) I couldn't check the water system because the tanks were empty. The
> owner said we could just hook up the water at his house to test the
> water system. Should I insist that we fill the tanks and check both
> the clean water and waste water tanks. Is there anything in particular
> I should be testing? I don't see why that's an unreasonable request,
> but it seemed like there was some resistance to that idea from the
> owner.
>
> 10) He did show me the leveling system, and the airbags looked fine to
> me. They are the single airbags for both wheels (hope that makes
> sense).
>
> That's all I can think of now. I have pictures of everything I could
> get to, if they might help. For this price, I expect there to be
> issues; I just would like to know how much I'm going to be shelling
> out to fix them. I would really appreciate any insight. I'm looking
> forward to being an active newbie on this list soon. :)
>
> Thank you!
> ,Wil
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210165 is a reply to message #210164] Fri, 07 June 2013 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dwayne jacobson[1] is currently offline  dwayne jacobson[1]   United States
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Wil,
MY wife of 42 years and I lived in it for the good part of 3 months last
fall while traveling across Canada and returning through the US. Never
once did she order me to get out and spend the night outside. We met so
many wonderful GMC owners and had a few mechanical opportunities along the
way. So living in it for any length of time has been a Joy to us.
When you do get yours, please treat it kindly and make it a happy motorhome
by keeping the green algae, dust and grin off.
Happy trails to you until we meet. . . . . . (boy does that bring back
memories. Talking about memories, our children and grandchildren have had
their fondest times with us in the Coach.
Regards
Dwayne Jacobson
White Rock
77 Kingsley



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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the plunge. . . [message #210166 is a reply to message #210165] Fri, 07 June 2013 06:50 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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Almost any windshield shop can replace the window. Expect at least $300 per side for installation. Windows appear to cost $550 plus shipping. I had both sides plus gasket replaced for $1300, but that was at Fl labor prices, and windshields bought direct from wholesale house. One time deal. Gasket is $200.
Tom, MS II


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