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Sat, 04 May 2013 10:54  |
coralbusxxx
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I need to find someone in the Indiana area,to work on my 4K Power Drawer Onan.
I have replaced just about everything electrical with new parts,(Including two circuit boards.)
The motor turns over,but will not start.Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Larry Snider
Marion.Ind.
1976 birchaven
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan repair? [message #206810 is a reply to message #206807] |
Sat, 04 May 2013 11:47  |
Robin Hood
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Ahem. :) Um, I took an Onan from totally dead to actually runs, starting
with zero knowledge, using nothing but the GMC net, the manuals, and
persistence. I even shot video on Youtube of the endeavor.
What are the symptoms? Have you jumpered the control board to eliminate it
as a possibiliity? Have you replaced the coil, plug wires, spark plugs, and
made sure they were properly gapped? There's a zillion things it can be,
almost all of which are plenty fixable.
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Looks like you are in the Indy area. Larry is not far from you. Take a
> look at the Black List. If you can call Ken, up in Northwest Indiana, he
> may very well be able to help you over the phone. Both of these guys helped
> me at one of the ES rallies with my Onan.
> Welcome to the group.
> Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan repair? [message #206835 is a reply to message #206806] |
Sat, 04 May 2013 20:33 |
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Matt Colie
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| coralbus wrote on Sat, 04 May 2013 11:54 |
I need to find someone in the Indiana area,to work on my 4K Power Drawer Onan.
I have replaced just about everything electrical with new parts,(Including two circuit boards.)
The motor turns over,but will not start.Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Larry Snider
Marion.Ind.
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Larry,
Robin managed with books and some tele-help (also available to you), so if you were to persist, I expect that you could also succeed.
If you feel completely lost, try to get to to the Miller/Eastern States work rally in Hamilton OH (~150miles) at the end of the month. Young James Miller knows Power Draws (among other things) very well, and if between he and I we can't diagnose and possibly cure your issues, I would be very surprised.
Matt - its still raining in Bean Station
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan repair? [message #206929 is a reply to message #206806] |
Sun, 05 May 2013 23:33 |
Ken Burton
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I wish I had known earlier today. I just came through that area about 6 hours ago on my way back for Bean Station and I could have stopped by. Give me a telephone call and we can figure out what your problem is. call two one nine -988-four5four7
Unfortunately I have worked on more of those than I want to talk about. We will get yours going.
Ken Burton
Hebron, In.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan repair? [message #206943 is a reply to message #206810] |
Mon, 06 May 2013 08:02 |
Joe Weir
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| Robin Hood wrote on Sat, 04 May 2013 11:47 |
Ahem.  Um, I took an Onan from totally dead to actually runs, starting
with zero knowledge, using nothing but the GMC net, the manuals, and
persistence. I even shot video on Youtube of the endeavor.
What are the symptoms? Have you jumpered the control board to eliminate it
as a possibiliity? Have you replaced the coil, plug wires, spark plugs, and
made sure they were properly gapped? There's a zillion things it can be,
almost all of which are plenty fixable.
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Links, please? I know these things are old hat to you vets, but This kind of data cannot be reposted often enough.
Before my engine toasted, I was working the identical problem. Replaced the board, plugs, wires, coil (chrome Harley), and cleaned the fuel filter and carb. All of the components looked original, so it wasn't like the systems couldn't have used a freshening. The unit would turn over (and as it turned out was firing) but would die as soon as the start button was released.
After replacing the board, the unit started and ran. While it was running, however, I had no 120 in the coach. I let it run for about ten minutes trying the outlets before packing it in to run other errands. Later in the day I started it up again to try and troubleshoot the 120 and it ran for another 20 minutes.
That night, it was back to stopping as soon as the starter button was released.
???????
Of course, this was as I was waiting for the tow, so it hasn't been
High on the priority list.
It is possible it was a defective board, and I was planning on ordering another to keep as a spare, but as it is acting like it did before the replacement board, it also calls into question if it was the board at all.
76 Birchaven - "Wicked Mistress" - New engine, trans, alum radiator, brakes, Sully airbags, fuel lines, seats, adult beverage center... those Coachmen guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center...
Columbia, SC.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan repair? [message #206945 is a reply to message #206943] |
Mon, 06 May 2013 08:24 |
Robin Hood
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That reeks of Voltage Regulator to me. :)
Anyway, I think the discussion may have fragmented across a couple of
threadds. here is the main one... Warrning, ten pages. :) It may give you
some ideas of what to look for. By NO MEANS is it any sort of HOWTO... I am
lucky to have escaped injury/death/property destruction. If I can't be a
good example, at least I can be a horrible warning. :)
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=23877&prevloaded=1&rid=0&start=0
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Joe Weir <joeweir@gmail.com> wrote:
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> [quote title=Robin Hood wrote on Sat, 04 May 2013 11:47]Ahem. :) Um, I
> took an Onan from totally dead to actually runs, starting
> with zero knowledge, using nothing but the GMC net, the manuals, and
> persistence. I even shot video on Youtube of the endeavor.
>
> What are the symptoms? Have you jumpered the control board to eliminate it
> as a possibiliity? Have you replaced the coil, plug wires, spark plugs, and
> made sure they were properly gapped? There's a zillion things it can be,
> almost all of which are plenty fixable.
> [\quote]
>
> Links, please? I know these things are old hat to you vets, but This kind
> of data cannot be reposted often enough.
>
>
> Before my engine toasted, I was working the identical problem. Replaced
> the board, plugs, wires, coil (chrome Harley), and cleaned the fuel filter
> and carb. All of the components looked original, so it wasn't like the
> systems couldn't have used a freshening. The unit would turn over (and as
> it turned out was firing) but would die as soon as the start button was
> released.
>
> After replacing the board, the unit started and ran. While it was
> running, however, I had no 120 in the coach. I let it run for about ten
> minutes trying the outlets before packing it in to run other errands.
> Later in the day I started it up again to try and troubleshoot the 120 and
> it ran for another 20 minutes.
>
> That night, it was back to stopping as soon as the starter button was
> released.
>
> ???????
>
> Of course, this was as I was waiting for the tow, so it hasn't been
> High on the priority list.
>
> It is possible it was a defective board, and I was planning on ordering
> another to keep as a spare, but it also calls into question if it was the
> board at all.
> --
> 76 Birchaven
> Columbia, SC.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan repair? [message #206953 is a reply to message #206945] |
Mon, 06 May 2013 09:16 |
Mr ERFisher
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WOULD be good to collect the notes into one brochure
the forum is not very useful for this type of info
:>)
gene
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
> That reeks of Voltage Regulator to me. :)
>
> Anyway, I think the discussion may have fragmented across a couple of
> threadds. here is the main one... Warrning, ten pages. :) It may give you
> some ideas of what to look for. By NO MEANS is it any sort of HOWTO... I am
> lucky to have escaped injury/death/property destruction. If I can't be a
> good example, at least I can be a horrible warning. :)
>
>
> http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=23877&prevloaded=1&rid=0&start=0
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Joe Weir <joeweir@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > [quote title=Robin Hood wrote on Sat, 04 May 2013 11:47]Ahem. :) Um, I
> > took an Onan from totally dead to actually runs, starting
> > with zero knowledge, using nothing but the GMC net, the manuals, and
> > persistence. I even shot video on Youtube of the endeavor.
> >
> > What are the symptoms? Have you jumpered the control board to eliminate
> it
> > as a possibiliity? Have you replaced the coil, plug wires, spark plugs,
> and
> > made sure they were properly gapped? There's a zillion things it can be,
> > almost all of which are plenty fixable.
> > [\quote]
> >
> > Links, please? I know these things are old hat to you vets, but This
> kind
> > of data cannot be reposted often enough.
> >
> >
> > Before my engine toasted, I was working the identical problem. Replaced
> > the board, plugs, wires, coil (chrome Harley), and cleaned the fuel
> filter
> > and carb. All of the components looked original, so it wasn't like the
> > systems couldn't have used a freshening. The unit would turn over (and
> as
> > it turned out was firing) but would die as soon as the start button was
> > released.
> >
> > After replacing the board, the unit started and ran. While it was
> > running, however, I had no 120 in the coach. I let it run for about ten
> > minutes trying the outlets before packing it in to run other errands.
> > Later in the day I started it up again to try and troubleshoot the 120
> and
> > it ran for another 20 minutes.
> >
> > That night, it was back to stopping as soon as the starter button was
> > released.
> >
> > ???????
> >
> > Of course, this was as I was waiting for the tow, so it hasn't been
> > High on the priority list.
> >
> > It is possible it was a defective board, and I was planning on ordering
> > another to keep as a spare, but it also calls into question if it was the
> > board at all.
> > --
> > 76 Birchaven
> > Columbia, SC.
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> Jackson, MS
> 2003 Buick Lesabre
> 1968 Pontiac Catalina
> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan repair? [message #206954 is a reply to message #206953] |
Mon, 06 May 2013 09:24 |
Robin Hood
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Duane "Mr. Onan" Simmons (rest his soul) did a pretty good brocure and DVD
on troubleshooting and maintaining the Onan.
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:16 AM, gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> WOULD be good to collect the notes into one brochure
> the forum is not very useful for this type of info
> :>)
> gene
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That reeks of Voltage Regulator to me. :)
> >
> > Anyway, I think the discussion may have fragmented across a couple of
> > threadds. here is the main one... Warrning, ten pages. :) It may give you
> > some ideas of what to look for. By NO MEANS is it any sort of HOWTO... I
> am
> > lucky to have escaped injury/death/property destruction. If I can't be a
> > good example, at least I can be a horrible warning. :)
> >
> >
> >
> http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=23877&prevloaded=1&rid=0&start=0
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Joe Weir <joeweir@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > [quote title=Robin Hood wrote on Sat, 04 May 2013 11:47]Ahem. :) Um, I
> > > took an Onan from totally dead to actually runs, starting
> > > with zero knowledge, using nothing but the GMC net, the manuals, and
> > > persistence. I even shot video on Youtube of the endeavor.
> > >
> > > What are the symptoms? Have you jumpered the control board to eliminate
> > it
> > > as a possibiliity? Have you replaced the coil, plug wires, spark plugs,
> > and
> > > made sure they were properly gapped? There's a zillion things it can
> be,
> > > almost all of which are plenty fixable.
> > > [\quote]
> > >
> > > Links, please? I know these things are old hat to you vets, but This
> > kind
> > > of data cannot be reposted often enough.
> > >
> > >
> > > Before my engine toasted, I was working the identical problem.
> Replaced
> > > the board, plugs, wires, coil (chrome Harley), and cleaned the fuel
> > filter
> > > and carb. All of the components looked original, so it wasn't like the
> > > systems couldn't have used a freshening. The unit would turn over (and
> > as
> > > it turned out was firing) but would die as soon as the start button
> was
> > > released.
> > >
> > > After replacing the board, the unit started and ran. While it was
> > > running, however, I had no 120 in the coach. I let it run for about
> ten
> > > minutes trying the outlets before packing it in to run other errands.
> > > Later in the day I started it up again to try and troubleshoot the 120
> > and
> > > it ran for another 20 minutes.
> > >
> > > That night, it was back to stopping as soon as the starter button was
> > > released.
> > >
> > > ???????
> > >
> > > Of course, this was as I was waiting for the tow, so it hasn't been
> > > High on the priority list.
> > >
> > > It is possible it was a defective board, and I was planning on ordering
> > > another to keep as a spare, but it also calls into question if it was
> the
> > > board at all.
> > > --
> > > 76 Birchaven
> > > Columbia, SC.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GMCnet mailing list
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Robin Hood
> > Jackson, MS
> > 2003 Buick Lesabre
> > 1968 Pontiac Catalina
> > 1978 GMC Royale motorhome
> > 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
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