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Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206044] Fri, 26 April 2013 18:59 Go to next message
Mitch is currently offline  Mitch   United States
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After a looong winters nap I tried starting The Beast. Nada.
Engine spins, I have spark, but apparently no fuel at the carb.
I changed out the carb filter. UGLY! Still no fuel. Even shot starting fluid into the carb, only got a slight hiccup.
So, I'll go upstream, see if the electric fuel pump is working, go from there. And yes, I supposedly have 3/4 tank of gas.
Any other suggestions?


Mitch Tacoma, Wa. '80 Spitfire '03 Windstar '77 Jaguar XJ6-C X(very)'76 PB 26 "The Beast" Where it rains, always. It's wet, No sun, Gray. Go to Oregon.
Re: Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206055 is a reply to message #206044] Fri, 26 April 2013 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir: If you loosen the fuel inlet line and have no fuel with an electric pump, it aint workin. If you got fuel at the inlet the float valve could be stuck shut from sitting. If you got fuel tighten the line back up and while cranking smack the fuel inlet housing with a small hammer to jar it loose or try filling the carb float bowl thru the tall vent tube next to the air filter bolt with gas from a small squeese bottle. This should raise the float off the seat.


Mitch wrote on Fri, 26 April 2013 19:59

After a looong winters nap I tried starting The Beast. Nada.
Engine spins, I have spark, but apparently no fuel at the carb.
I changed out the carb filter. UGLY! Still no fuel. Even shot starting fluid into the carb, only got a slight hiccup.
So, I'll go upstream, see if the electric fuel pump is working, go from there. And yes, I supposedly have 3/4 tank of gas.
Any other suggestions?



C. Boyd
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East Tennessee
Re: [GMCnet] Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206073 is a reply to message #206044] Fri, 26 April 2013 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You say you have an electric fuel pump. Do you have 2 filters? Can you hear the pump running? Is there a really good squirt of gas going down the carb when you open the throttle?

You mentioned starting fluid. Do you have a spark? Are all the connections on your distributor snug?


Larry Davick

On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Mitch <Yowzax3@harbornet.com> wrote:

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> After a looong winters nap I tried starting The Beast. Nada.
> Engine spins, I have spark, but apparently no fuel at the carb.
> I changed out the carb filter. UGLY! Still no fuel. Even shot starting fluid into the carb, only got a slight hiccup.
> So, I'll go upstream, see if the electric fuel pump is working, go from there. And yes, I supposedly have 3/4 tank of gas.
> Any other suggestions?
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> It's wet, No sun, Gray.
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Re: [GMCnet] Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206109 is a reply to message #206073] Sat, 27 April 2013 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mitch is currently offline  Mitch   United States
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Yes, I have spark, and yes the distributor connections are solid.And there isn't any gas to the carb.
I can't hear the electric fuel pump from the drivers seat, but with hearing that is less (ahem) than perfect ... not a surprise. I'll have the wife switch it on while I kneel next to the coach.
I'll use the pump as a mid-point for trouble shooting; if gas is there, then the problem is farther forward. If not, then check it's filter, and possiblely on to the tanks. I HOPE it's no where near the tanks as they are 3/4 full.
My brother is racing today, so nothing will get done until late in the day, and grandson is coming over Sunday (bike lessons!)so most progress will be Monday. I hope.
Y'all have a good weekend, I'm going to cheer on my brother and his TR-6.


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Re: [GMCnet] Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206119 is a reply to message #206055] Sat, 27 April 2013 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 26, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net> wrote:

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> Sir: If you loosen the fuel inlet line and have no fuel with an electric pump, it aint workin. If you got fuel at the inlet the float valve could be stuck shut from sitting. If you got fuel tighten the line back up and while cranking smack the fuel inlet housing with a small hammer to jar it loose or try filling the carb float bowl thru the tall vent tube next to the air filter bolt with gas from a small squeese bottle. This should raise the float off the seat.
>
>
> Mitch wrote on Fri, 26 April 2013 19:59
>> After a looong winters nap I tried starting The Beast. Nada.
>> Engine spins, I have spark, but apparently no fuel at the carb.
>> I changed out the carb filter. UGLY! Still no fuel. Even shot starting fluid into the carb, only got a slight hiccup.
>> So, I'll go upstream, see if the electric fuel pump is working, go from there. And yes, I supposedly have 3/4 tank of gas.
>> Any other suggestions?
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206122 is a reply to message #206119] Sat, 27 April 2013 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mitch is currently offline  Mitch   United States
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I'll check that too, but would it prevent fuel delivery?

Mitch Tacoma, Wa. '80 Spitfire '03 Windstar '77 Jaguar XJ6-C X(very)'76 PB 26 "The Beast" Where it rains, always. It's wet, No sun, Gray. Go to Oregon.
Re: Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206127 is a reply to message #206044] Sat, 27 April 2013 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are you talking Beast as in Onan or Olds? Onan---- are tanks 1/2 full or better? Olds--- does accelerator pump stream gas into primaries?

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Re: Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206158 is a reply to message #206127] Sat, 27 April 2013 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mitch is currently offline  Mitch   United States
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X(very)'76 PB 26 "The Beast"
JohnL455 wrote on Sat, 27 April 2013 10:20

Are you talking Beast as in Onan or Olds? Onan---- are tanks 1/2 full or better? Olds--- does accelerator pump stream gas into primaries?



Mitch Tacoma, Wa. '80 Spitfire '03 Windstar '77 Jaguar XJ6-C X(very)'76 PB 26 "The Beast" Where it rains, always. It's wet, No sun, Gray. Go to Oregon.
Re: Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206354 is a reply to message #206158] Mon, 29 April 2013 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mitch is currently offline  Mitch   United States
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Well, well, well.
Two things: First is Erf Fisher psychic? Yep, ign module is/was bad.
Second: while checking elec. fuel pump I saw a pranged up gas/water separator. I'm not 100% sure how it happened, but have my suspicions. I'll post a couple pictures.
Anyhoo, she runs. Now I just have to do a shake down, and then tackle rear brakes.
Ain't life grand?


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Re: Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206360 is a reply to message #206354] Mon, 29 April 2013 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aand the picture:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/mitch-s-beast/p48911-pranged-gas-filter.html


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Re: [GMCnet] Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206363 is a reply to message #206360] Mon, 29 April 2013 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mitch,

I realize I am demonstrating an acute grasp on the obvious but is there any reason you can't raise that filter (and pump) so that
the are fully protected by the frame cross member?

Regards,
Rob M.

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Re: [GMCnet] Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206381 is a reply to message #206363] Mon, 29 April 2013 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob, that's in the works also, probably while the rear wheels are off.
maybe I'll even wash and wax the underside while I'm there. Laughing
Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 29 April 2013 16:47

Mitch,

I realize I am demonstrating an acute grasp on the obvious but is there any reason you can't raise that filter (and pump) so that
the are fully protected by the frame cross member?

Regards,
Rob M.

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Aand the picture:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/mitch-s-beast/p48911-pranged-gas-filter.html
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Re: [GMCnet] Sigh, The Beast won't wake up [message #206438 is a reply to message #206381] Tue, 30 April 2013 14:16 Go to previous message
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Mitch wrote on Mon, 29 April 2013 21:49

...
maybe I'll even wash and wax the underside while I'm there. Laughing



Might be good for a mpg gain.... maybe .00001 mpg! Twisted Evil


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