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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery Crud [message #205345 is a reply to message #205344] |
Sat, 20 April 2013 15:35   |
powerjon
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Gary,
It appears that you're boiling your batteries. How often do you add distilled water to your batteries? These being your house batteries what type of charger/inverter do you have?
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Apr 20, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey All;
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> Every so often I wind up with the battery crud on the tops of my
> batteries. I wash it off with a Baking soda/ water solution and clean up
> the connections, but it seems to always come back. Is there a
> more permanent solution? These batteries are about 1 year old. Thanks for
> any help.
>
> A picture...
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p48725-battery-crud.html
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> Gary and Diana Berry
> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery Crud [message #205346 is a reply to message #205344] |
Sat, 20 April 2013 16:06 |
RicksGMC
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Gary,
After I clean my battery terminals I use a spray on product from Napa called Battery Terminal Protector. I originally got it for my golf cart batteries which were notorious for corroding like crazy!
Rick
Rick&Tammy Drummond
Prior Lake MN
'74 (re)Painted Desert
On Apr 20, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey All;
>
> Every so often I wind up with the battery crud on the tops of my
> batteries. I wash it off with a Baking soda/ water solution and clean up
> the connections, but it seems to always come back. Is there a
> more permanent solution? These batteries are about 1 year old. Thanks for
> any help.
>
> A picture...
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p48725-battery-crud.html
>
> --
> Gary and Diana Berry
> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery Crud [message #205350 is a reply to message #205344] |
Sat, 20 April 2013 17:15 |
Steven Ferguson
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Gary, after cleaning, I use a spray on ignition protectant from NAPA. The
terminals are spotless everytime I check them.
During the summer, expect to use a lot of distilled water to keep your
batteries topped off. I use a device called Pro-Fill that I bought at
Quartszite a few years ago.
https://www.flow-rite.com/battery-watering/pro-fill All of the
batteries are tied to a common fill line that attaches to special clips on
the caps provided in the kit. Connect the fill hose via quick disconnect
(supplied), drop the other end of the hose in your container of D-water and
squeeze the bulb until it firmly resists. You have just topped off your
batteries. QD the hose and you're done. Expect to desulfate monthly if
the batteries go through heavy cycling from use. You should have a remote
panel controller for your inverter/charger that most likely has dip
switches on it. Each time you desulfate the batteries (8 hr cycle approx)
you will have to manually select this on your control panel. Whatever
you have came with a book. If not, you can download one from the mfr.
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey All;
>
> Every so often I wind up with the battery crud on the tops of my
> batteries. I wash it off with a Baking soda/ water solution and clean up
> the connections, but it seems to always come back. Is there a
> more permanent solution? These batteries are about 1 year old. Thanks for
> any help.
>
> A picture...
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p48725-battery-crud.html
>
> --
> Gary and Diana Berry
> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Steve
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery Crud [message #205354 is a reply to message #205344] |
Sat, 20 April 2013 17:30 |
bumpersticker
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Gary:
Several years ago I attended a battery siminar at the Western area FMCA rally. The speaker was a Trojan Battery rep. During the Q & A session he was asked about keeping the batteries clean and acid free. He said the easiest way is to hose them down with a stream of water every time you wash the coach It don't hurt the batteries especially if the water is slightly alkyline it will help neutralise the acid. I tried it , I liked it, and have been doing it every since.
Bob Cook
78 Birchaven
75 Avion (In work)
Redondo Beach, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery Crud [message #205356 is a reply to message #205344] |
Sat, 20 April 2013 17:49 |
C Boyd
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Sir: I use the red and green felt neutrilizer washers you can get at anyplace that sells batteries and have had no problems. I have seen a few frames rust out completely under the batteries and in my opinion washing the batteries contributes to this big problem.
| Gary Berry wrote on Sat, 20 April 2013 16:20 |
Hey All;
Every so often I wind up with the battery crud on the tops of my
batteries. I wash it off with a Baking soda/ water solution and clean up
the connections, but it seems to always come back. Is there a
more permanent solution? These batteries are about 1 year old. Thanks for
any help.
A picture...
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p48725-battery-crud.html
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Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery Crud [message #205360 is a reply to message #205345] |
Sat, 20 April 2013 18:40 |
powerjon
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Gary,
I stand corrected, Matt picked up on your problem. I did not pick up that you had no wheel wells. As others have suggested you need to protect the connections with an anti corrosive. I have used in the past chassis grease. Father in law who was a master mechanic showed me that many years ago.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Apr 20, 2013, at 4:35 PM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
> Gary,
> It appears that you're boiling your batteries. How often do you add distilled water to your batteries? These being your house batteries what type of charger/inverter do you have?
>
> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> Michigan
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> On Apr 20, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hey All;
>>
>> Every so often I wind up with the battery crud on the tops of my
>> batteries. I wash it off with a Baking soda/ water solution and clean up
>> the connections, but it seems to always come back. Is there a
>> more permanent solution? These batteries are about 1 year old. Thanks for
>> any help.
>>
>> A picture...
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p48725-battery-crud.html
>>
>> --
>> Gary and Diana Berry
>> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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75 Avion Under Reconstruction
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery Crud [message #205367 is a reply to message #205344] |
Sat, 20 April 2013 20:42 |
jhbridges
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The parts houses sell red and green felt rings which seem to do some good. Also, there's a red varnish my generator techs use which keeps it down. For the varnish, they shine the post and the clamp, get it properly tightened, and then slop the stuff on. It's fairly thick, and it seems to protect fairly well.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 4:20 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Battery Crud
Hey All;
Every so often I wind up with the battery crud on the tops of my
batteries. I wash it off with a Baking soda/ water solution and clean up
the connections, but it seems to always come back. Is there a
more permanent solution? These batteries are about 1 year old. Thanks for
any help.
A picture...
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p48725-battery-crud.html
--
Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery Crud [message #205379 is a reply to message #205367] |
Sat, 20 April 2013 22:05 |
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I fitted those to the house and start battery under the passenger hood when I put Double Trouble to bed last October. When I
returned in March they were mush.
I have a 60 Amp Progressive Dynamics converter.
Regards,
Rob M.
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The parts houses sell red and green felt rings which seem to do some good. Also, there's a red varnish my generator techs use which
keeps it down. For the varnish, they shine the post and the clamp, get it properly tightened, and then slop the stuff on. It's
fairly thick, and it seems to protect fairly well.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery Crud [message #205381 is a reply to message #205344] |
Sat, 20 April 2013 22:41 |
Ken Burton
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You are either over filling or over charging and boiling that set of batteries.
Get some simple green and scrub that battery perfectly clean. Shine the connections and posts with a battery brush. Coat battery posts with anti-oxidation grease. (available Home Depot in the electrical section) Reconnect the cables and coat them also.
In the future do not over water the battery and try not to over charge it.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery Crud [message #205382 is a reply to message #205344] |
Sat, 20 April 2013 22:46 |
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John Heslinga
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My recomendation is:
A - Take everything apart, including the wire on the terminal end on your positive terminal.
B - Wire brush and clean to bright metal.
C - Use the felt Washers. They actually have a type of oil on them, they are cheap, and easy to use. You can refresh the oil with a drop or two of oil periodicly
D - Slather with "Lovers Lube" (Vaseline)or Chassis - wheel bearing Grease.
E - Put everything back together nice and tight
The idea here is not to have great gobs of grease on the terminals, but to have a layer to seal the metals from corrosion. Even under normal charging conditions the battery creates hydrogen gas with a small amount of sufuric acid vapor that needs to be vented from the vent caps. The vapor condenses on the terminals because they are close and corrodes everything. Cleaning and wiping the top of the battery on a regular basis also helps.
This usually keeps things in good shape. Some of the other products work OK too but the grease and washers is easy and cheap.
Best regards
Best regards
John and Cathie Heslinga
1974 Canyonlands 260
455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:70 LS,
Red Seal Journeyman, DTE, BEd. MEd.
Edmonton, Alberta
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery Crud [message #205476 is a reply to message #205470] |
Sun, 21 April 2013 22:45 |
Mr ERFisher
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tis not a charger problem
when are you going to FL,orgn?
Mel's most loved, and last uncle died
so we will be in orgn friday and in fl sunday
we will stay about 2-3 weeks
gene
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Because at this point I believe it...
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> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM, gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
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> > but I was expecting the PD9140A to
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> > > handle all of the charging needs while i have it plugged into the shore
> > > power, but I guess it doesn't work that way (I just wish there was
> > > something out there that would)
> > >
> > why do you say that?
> >
> > gene
> >
> > Gary and Diana Berry
> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery Crud [message #205500 is a reply to message #205462] |
Mon, 22 April 2013 09:08 |
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| Gary Berry wrote on Sun, 21 April 2013 22:49 |
Hey All;
Thanks to everyone for the great suggestions. Tuesday, I'm going to clean the terminals until they are shiny, then spray them with something. I have the Inteli-Power PD9140A converter. It has the charge Wizard attached.
I have never used the Charge Wizard, but I was expecting the PD9140A to handle all of the charging needs while i have it plugged into the shore power, but I guess it doesn't work that way (I just wish there was something out there that would)
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Gary,
Well, it should. Mine does.
The Charge Wizard doesn't take "using". Just plug it in and watch the blinking LED.
I have been running a PD9145A w/CW for a few years. I add about a cup (total) for water to the two GC-2s every year. I periodically check the electrolyte density with a refractometer and it is always right where it is supposed to be.
Based on my recent experience, you might check the system voltage when at road speed. I had an alternator voltage regulator fail, but I was watching it because I knew we had an issue there.
Cleaning and protecting the battery terminals is important, but I still think that a lot of the black stuff is coming off the road.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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