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Wed, 17 April 2013 11:57  |
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SeanKidd
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OK, i've read that one had to winch it apart between two trees, i have two trees.
I have the intermediate shaft in my vice, PB Blaster allowed removal of rub collar? (very early '73) applied gentle heat, will not budge.
How do I get it apert without breaking/damaging anything including my wallet?
Thanks in advance,
Sean
Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #204948 is a reply to message #204945] |
Wed, 17 April 2013 12:02  |
Mr ERFisher
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Sean Kidd <fiatkidd@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> OK, i've read that one had to winch it apart between two trees, i have two
> trees.
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what ?
gene
> I have the intermediate shaft in my vice, PB Blaster allowed removal of
> rub collar? (very early '73) applied gentle heat, will not budge.
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> How do I get it apert without breaking/damaging anything including my
> wallet?
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> Thanks in advance,
> Sean
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| Re: [GMCnet] Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #204950 is a reply to message #204948] |
Wed, 17 April 2013 12:08 |
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SeanKidd
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> OK, i've read that one had to winch it apart between two trees, i have two
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what ?
I read on this post, someone placed the intermediate shaft between two trees and a come-a-long to separate the blue shaft from the housing...I'd rather use finesse...
Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
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| Re: [GMCnet] Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #204951 is a reply to message #204950] |
Wed, 17 April 2013 12:32 |
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Sean,
Last week I harvested the CV joint from the top of the shaft that came out of my parts coach. It was frozen solid and I didn't think
it was worth messing with.
However, when I removed the lower u-joint from the bottom of the intermediate shaft I noticed a small (vent?) hole. I got to
thinkin' that it might be possible to drill and tap that hole, install a grease zerk, connect a grease gun to that zerk and maybe,
just maybe you MIGHT be able to push the blue shaft out with grease.
I tossed mine because AFAIC steering and brakes need to be PERFECT.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Kidd
I read on this post, someone placed the intermediate shaft between two trees and a come-a-long to separate the blue shaft from the
housing...I'd rather use finesse...
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| Re: Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #204952 is a reply to message #204945] |
Wed, 17 April 2013 12:36 |
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Hello Sean,
I am a fellow newbie, but, I had success getting mine apart.
I removed the thin metal collar and the fabric material that was under it.
Turned it upside down in the vise.
I pumped in lots O grease and some PB blaster in the zerk fitting on the larger part of the shaft until it was coming out between the shaft and the shaft holder.
Let it sit for awhile (few hours)
I applied heat with a propane torch.
Then I pounded the shaft holder with a rubber mallet and also with a big heavy hammer (with a piece of soft 2X4 pine between the hammer and the outer shaft).
Hope that makes sense.
Anyway, it took awhile, but it did come apart.
Good luck to you,
G2 
Glenn & Elaine Gardner...
Miami, Florida...
1976 Royale (transmode)
TZE366V100733
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| Re: [GMCnet] Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #204954 is a reply to message #204950] |
Wed, 17 April 2013 12:36 |
sgltrac
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Steering shaft slip joint I assume?
I used one of our frame racks at work and it required very little pressure to make it budge. After that it pulled apart easily. Do not use heat as the coating on the sleeve will soften. The trick was getting a straight pull. The come a long and trees and two people should work. One guy working the winch and the other guy maintaining the correct pull angle and it will slip apart.
Jwid
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
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On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Sean Kidd <fiatkidd@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> OK, i've read that one had to winch it apart between two trees, i have two
>> trees.
> what ?
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> I read on this post, someone placed the intermediate shaft between two trees and a come-a-long to separate the blue shaft from the housing...I'd rather use finesse...
> --
> 73 Ex-Canyon Lands 26' #317 "Oliver"
> Hubler 1-Ton, Quadra Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms.
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| Re: Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #204957 is a reply to message #204945] |
Wed, 17 April 2013 13:05 |
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SeanKidd
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I made a puller, quite simple, used a 8"nipple-black pipe1 1/2 " I think, with a cap. I drilled a hole in cap slid pipe over shaft (fits perfectly, but remember to de-burr..Screwed cap on to nipple and bolt to shaft using castle nut. Clamp cap in vice and use a pipe wrench and unscrew nipple from cap, this pushes the shaft apart...took 5 minutes to make. needed to cut off a few threads to fit (height) then needed to shim once it started moving. Blue coating scuffed a little, but should polish out ok. 
Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
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| Re: Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #204960 is a reply to message #204945] |
Wed, 17 April 2013 14:18 |
BVaughn
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I can't even say I'm a newbie, as I'm still looking at a coach and haven't decided yet. However, I am worried about the safety of the process in this discussion.
Do I understand you are tying a press fit (or stuck) piece between two trees and using a come along to pull them apart while someone else holds the pieces straight? You're looking at someone getting hurt in process and perhaps dismembered or killed if a long piece of wire under high load were to snap.
Bill Vaughn
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| Re: Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #204966 is a reply to message #204945] |
Wed, 17 April 2013 15:28 |
JohnL455
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I wrapped 1/8" wire rope on each end and between the top and bottom of my floor jack. Came apart with a bang, but revealed some damage to the blue coating from years of PO neglect.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #204973 is a reply to message #204960] |
Wed, 17 April 2013 16:05 |
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I don't see how you are any safer standing over the same cable operating the come a long doing anything else with it.
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
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On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Bill Vaughn <bvaughn4@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I can't even say I'm a newbie, as I'm still looking at a coach and haven't decided yet. However, I am worried about the safety of the process in this discussion.
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> Do I understand you are tying a press fit (or stuck) piece between two trees and using a come along to pull them apart while someone else holds the pieces straight? You're looking at someone getting hurt in process and perhaps dismembered or killed if a long piece of wire under high load were to snap.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #205005 is a reply to message #204950] |
Wed, 17 April 2013 20:18 |
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I used a lot of finesse with the come along and two trees. I've used this technique three times already with success. Your making one big loop around two trees with a come along connecting one end to the lower shaft and one end to the upper shaft. Think I had to put a bolt on either top or bottom to hook come along to. Two or three ratchets on the come along and it brakes free. Easy and works.
Good luck.
Mike Thomas
Marine City, MI
77 ex Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #205033 is a reply to message #204950] |
Thu, 18 April 2013 00:31 |
sgltrac
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It does not take a huge amount of pressure to separate a frozen steering shaft. Rather it takes well directed pressure to pull the two parts directly away from each other in a straight line. The awkwardness and weight of the parts complicates getting a good straight pull. Just because you are using a mechanical pulling system of some sort does not mean you are forcing anything. It may just mean you are not wasting energy.
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
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On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Sean Kidd <fiatkidd@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> OK, i've read that one had to winch it apart between two trees, i have two
>> trees.
> what ?
>
> I read on this post, someone placed the intermediate shaft between two trees and a come-a-long to separate the blue shaft from the housing...I'd rather use finesse...
> --
> 73 Ex-Canyon Lands 26' #317 "Oliver"
> Hubler 1-Ton, Quadra Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms.
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Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #205127 is a reply to message #205117] |
Thu, 18 April 2013 17:15 |
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No pic???
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Sean Kidd <fiatkidd@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Here is the simple tool I made to separate the shaft.
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> 73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
> Hubler 1-Ton, Quadra Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms,
> Fluorescent Mineral Capital of the World, New Jersey
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Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Old Topic, New to Me Seasoned Newbie [message #205158 is a reply to message #205127] |
Thu, 18 April 2013 20:21 |
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Forum was updated. If you were reading on the on line forum you would see a picture right here:
 Here is a link for you email readers:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/oddsnends/p48714-intermediate-shaft-spr.html
Regardless, neat idea for a puller tool.
| sgltrac wrote on Thu, 18 April 2013 15:15 |
No pic???
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Sean Kidd <fiatkidd@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Here is the simple tool I made to separate the shaft.
> --
> 73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
> Hubler 1-Ton, Quadra Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms,
> Fluorescent Mineral Capital of the World, New Jersey
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