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[GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes... [message #204598] Sat, 13 April 2013 23:21 Go to next message
kelvin is currently offline  kelvin   United States
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Saturday's project was to remove a bunch of heavy parts...
No sense in attaching all those pretty, new parts to this rusty, gray
mass. Powdercoat or good paint to follow - don't know whichjust yet.

http://youtu.be/kyGh5t4TihE

Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes... [message #204612 is a reply to message #204598] Sun, 14 April 2013 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow Kelvin, when you said you removed a bunch of parts, you were being pretty literal! Laughing

Are you planning on doing the Bogie pins while you are at it?

We didn't take mine down past removing the old brakes but did change all my brake lines and put in a new P30 MC. Doing all that took longer than installing the Manny Brakes themselves. It would have been much worse but Ken Henderson had a pressure bleeder which was a huge time saver.

We hit the bogie arms with a wire brush, I opted for just some Rustoleum engine paint sprayed over the because I wanted something that dried quick. If I had time, I would have used POR15 or similar.


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Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes... [message #204614 is a reply to message #204598] Sun, 14 April 2013 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Uhhh, Kelvin, you kinda got carried away! 'Tain't necessary to pull
EVERYTHING to install Manny Brakes! :-)

We'll be starting on mine this afternoon but not going down any further
than the spindles.

How are your pins & bushings? I'm almost afraid to check mine. I did a
poor job of replacing them in '98 and they've had lots of chance to wear
since then.

Ken H.


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:

> Saturday's project was to remove a bunch of heavy parts...
> No sense in attaching all those pretty, new parts to this rusty, gray
> mass. Powdercoat or good paint to follow - don't know whichjust yet.
>
> http://youtu.be/kyGh5t4TihE
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes... [message #204629 is a reply to message #204612] Sun, 14 April 2013 09:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kelvin is currently offline  kelvin   United States
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On 4/14/2013 6:01 AM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
> Wow Kelvin, when you said you removed a bunch of parts, you were being pretty literal! :lol:

I can't see every being down to this level again. Might as well get it
done now.

> Are you planning on doing the Bogie pins while you are at it?

There is no abnormal tire wear. The coach goes down the road with two
fingers on the steering wheel. There is a little play but it's not
much. The grease I found in the holes was pretty nice.

I think we're good to go on pins. This is a '73 so who knows when they
were replaced via recall.
>
> We didn't take mine down past removing the old brakes but did change all my brake lines and put in a new P30 MC. Doing all that took longer than installing the Manny Brakes themselves. It would have been much worse but Ken Henderson had a pressure bleeder which was a huge time saver.

I'll be installing a new OEM MC and gutting the combination valve.
Already own one of Jim Hupy's pressure bleeders.


> We hit the bogie arms with a wire brush, I opted for just some Rustoleum engine paint sprayed over the because I wanted something that dried quick. If I had time, I would have used POR15 or similar.

Going to spend the day cleaning the parts. I'll drag an arm and bogie
box to a couple of powdercoating shops tomorrow to get estimates. If
it's not outrageous we'll go that way. If it's more than I can stomach
then I'll paint it with something good.


I'd love to be installing the brakes today but GMCs are indeed Pandora's
Box on wheels.

Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes... [message #204633 is a reply to message #204629] Sun, 14 April 2013 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Kevin, Are we still going to do your front wheel bearings?
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
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On Apr 14, 2013 7:21 AM, "Kelvin Dietz" <kelvin@datsuns.com> wrote:

> On 4/14/2013 6:01 AM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
> > Wow Kelvin, when you said you removed a bunch of parts, you were being
> pretty literal! :lol:
>
> I can't see every being down to this level again. Might as well get it
> done now.
>
> > Are you planning on doing the Bogie pins while you are at it?
>
> There is no abnormal tire wear. The coach goes down the road with two
> fingers on the steering wheel. There is a little play but it's not
> much. The grease I found in the holes was pretty nice.
>
> I think we're good to go on pins. This is a '73 so who knows when they
> were replaced via recall.
> >
> > We didn't take mine down past removing the old brakes but did change all
> my brake lines and put in a new P30 MC. Doing all that took longer than
> installing the Manny Brakes themselves. It would have been much worse but
> Ken Henderson had a pressure bleeder which was a huge time saver.
>
> I'll be installing a new OEM MC and gutting the combination valve.
> Already own one of Jim Hupy's pressure bleeders.
>
>
> > We hit the bogie arms with a wire brush, I opted for just some Rustoleum
> engine paint sprayed over the because I wanted something that dried quick.
> If I had time, I would have used POR15 or similar.
>
> Going to spend the day cleaning the parts. I'll drag an arm and bogie
> box to a couple of powdercoating shops tomorrow to get estimates. If
> it's not outrageous we'll go that way. If it's more than I can stomach
> then I'll paint it with something good.
>
>
> I'd love to be installing the brakes today but GMCs are indeed Pandora's
> Box on wheels.
>
> Kelvin
> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes... [message #204696 is a reply to message #204633] Sun, 14 April 2013 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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Powder coating is the way to go.
$40 to $50 each for the bogies is a guess. I would sand blast them first.
Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes... [message #204697 is a reply to message #204696] Sun, 14 April 2013 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kelvin is currently offline  kelvin   United States
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On 4/14/2013 7:23 PM, David H. Jarvis wrote:
>
> Powder coating is the way to go.
> $40 to $50 each for the bogies is a guess. I would sand blast them first.
If I can get this done for $200-250 I'll be happy. Would surprise me if
it's that little, however...
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Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes... [message #204733 is a reply to message #204598] Mon, 15 April 2013 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ron77 is currently offline  Ron77   United States
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Kelvin, do you know the origin of your wheels? I have the same thing and was
wondering how to get replacement hubcaps.

Ron Johnson
77 Eleganza II
Escondido, CA


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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelvin Dietz
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:21 PM
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Subject: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes...

Saturday's project was to remove a bunch of heavy parts...
No sense in attaching all those pretty, new parts to this rusty, gray mass.
Powdercoat or good paint to follow - don't know whichjust yet.

http://youtu.be/kyGh5t4TihE

Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes... [message #204735 is a reply to message #204733] Mon, 15 April 2013 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KRDietz is currently offline  KRDietz   United States
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The wheels? They're just 16.5" radial wheels.
Or are you talking about the wheel covers? I have that info somewhere...

Kelvin

On 4/15/2013 10:05 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Kelvin, do you know the origin of your wheels? I have the same thing and was
> wondering how to get replacement hubcaps.
>
> Ron Johnson
> 77 Eleganza II
> Escondido, CA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelvin Dietz
> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:21 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes...
>
> Saturday's project was to remove a bunch of heavy parts...
> No sense in attaching all those pretty, new parts to this rusty, gray mass.
> Powdercoat or good paint to follow - don't know whichjust yet.
>
> http://youtu.be/kyGh5t4TihE
>
> Kelvin
> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes... [message #204748 is a reply to message #204735] Mon, 15 April 2013 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ron77 is currently offline  Ron77   United States
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Thanks, are the hubcaps 2 piece, with a inner cage that bolts on under the
lug-nuts and the hub cap fits over that cage?

Ron Johnson
77 Eleganza II
Escondido, CA


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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes...

The wheels? They're just 16.5" radial wheels.
Or are you talking about the wheel covers? I have that info somewhere...

Kelvin

On 4/15/2013 10:05 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Kelvin, do you know the origin of your wheels? I have the same thing
> and was wondering how to get replacement hubcaps.
>
> Ron Johnson
> 77 Eleganza II
> Escondido, CA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelvin Dietz
> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:21 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes...
>
> Saturday's project was to remove a bunch of heavy parts...
> No sense in attaching all those pretty, new parts to this rusty, gray
mass.
> Powdercoat or good paint to follow - don't know whichjust yet.
>
> http://youtu.be/kyGh5t4TihE
>
> Kelvin
> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes... [message #204751 is a reply to message #204748] Mon, 15 April 2013 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KRDietz is currently offline  KRDietz   United States
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Well... three piece, if you count the cover itself. But yes... the hub
cap snaps over a cage in the middle.

I actually drilled and tapped the wheels for a couple 10-32 screws to
hold main cover and cage centered on the wheel. Trying to install all
the pieces using just the lug nuts was less than fun. Easy to get the
covers off-center and then your wheels "wobble" as you go down the road.

Kelvin

On 4/15/2013 1:25 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Thanks, are the hubcaps 2 piece, with a inner cage that bolts on under the
> lug-nuts and the hub cap fits over that cage?
>
> Ron Johnson
> 77 Eleganza II
> Escondido, CA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of KRDietz
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:48 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes...
>
> The wheels? They're just 16.5" radial wheels.
> Or are you talking about the wheel covers? I have that info somewhere...
>
> Kelvin
>
> On 4/15/2013 10:05 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> Kelvin, do you know the origin of your wheels? I have the same thing
>> and was wondering how to get replacement hubcaps.
>>
>> Ron Johnson
>> 77 Eleganza II
>> Escondido, CA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
>> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelvin Dietz
>> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:21 PM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes...
>>
>> Saturday's project was to remove a bunch of heavy parts...
>> No sense in attaching all those pretty, new parts to this rusty, gray
> mass.
>> Powdercoat or good paint to follow - don't know whichjust yet.
>>
>> http://youtu.be/kyGh5t4TihE
>>
>> Kelvin
>> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes... [message #204752 is a reply to message #204748] Mon, 15 April 2013 15:32 Go to previous message
kelvin is currently offline  kelvin   United States
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Well... three piece, if you count the cover itself. But yes... the hub
cap snaps over a cage in the middle.

I actually drilled and tapped the wheels for a couple 10-32 screws to
hold main cover and cage centered on the wheel. Trying to install all
the pieces using just the lug nuts was less than fun. Easy to get the
covers off-center and then your wheels "wobble" as you go down the road.

Kelvin

On 4/15/2013 1:25 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Thanks, are the hubcaps 2 piece, with a inner cage that bolts on under the
> lug-nuts and the hub cap fits over that cage?
>
> Ron Johnson
> 77 Eleganza II
> Escondido, CA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of KRDietz
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:48 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes...
>
> The wheels? They're just 16.5" radial wheels.
> Or are you talking about the wheel covers? I have that info somewhere...
>
> Kelvin
>
> On 4/15/2013 10:05 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> Kelvin, do you know the origin of your wheels? I have the same thing
>> and was wondering how to get replacement hubcaps.
>>
>> Ron Johnson
>> 77 Eleganza II
>> Escondido, CA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
>> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelvin Dietz
>> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:21 PM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Prepping for Manny's brakes...
>>
>> Saturday's project was to remove a bunch of heavy parts...
>> No sense in attaching all those pretty, new parts to this rusty, gray
> mass.
>> Powdercoat or good paint to follow - don't know whichjust yet.
>>
>> http://youtu.be/kyGh5t4TihE
>>
>> Kelvin
>> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
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