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[GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat? [message #204254] Wed, 10 April 2013 09:08 Go to next message
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Remove the fender liner and you can see/work in that area easily.

Jerry
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A Hamilto wrote on Tue, 09 April 2013 20:18
> I need to cut out a notch and insert a "structural" pocket in the step behind the driver's seat to accomodate my new jack-knife sofa leg/support/track. It needs to be about 6" deep and 3" wide and a couple feet long.
> My head is too fat to stick very far into the engine hatch to see what might be there, and, although my arms are pretty long, I can't feel all the way over to where I need to cut to verify that there is nothing in the way. I don't have the front end high enough to get my fat self under it to look up from the bottom.
> Has anybody ever attempted to use that space before? What did you find under there?
> If no answers, I will get out the jack and block it up high enough to get my fat self under it to take a look.
> Thanks in advance.

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Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat? [message #204284 is a reply to message #204254] Wed, 10 April 2013 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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I installed a jack-knife sofa that runs from the refrigerator to the edge of the
2nd step. Didn't have to notch a thing. What kind of jack knife sofa are you
installing???

Ray


Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
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Sent: Wed, April 10, 2013 9:08:20 AM
Subject: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat?

Remove the fender liner and you can see/work in that area easily.

Jerry
Jerry Work
The Dovetail Joint
Fine furniture designed and hand crafted in the 1907 former Masonic Temple
building in historic Kerby, OR
glwork@mac.com
http://jerrywork.com
541-592-5360

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A Hamilto wrote on Tue, 09 April 2013 20:18
> I need to cut out a notch and insert a "structural" pocket in the step behind
>the driver's seat to accomodate my new jack-knife sofa leg/support/track. It
>needs to be about 6" deep and 3" wide and a couple feet long.
> My head is too fat to stick very far into the engine hatch to see what might be
>there, and, although my arms are pretty long, I can't feel all the way over to
>where I need to cut to verify that there is nothing in the way. I don't have
>the front end high enough to get my fat self under it to look up from the
>bottom.
> Has anybody ever attempted to use that space before? What did you find under
>there?
> If no answers, I will get out the jack and block it up high enough to get my
>fat self under it to take a look.
> Thanks in advance.

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Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat? [message #204305 is a reply to message #204284] Wed, 10 April 2013 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ray Erspamer wrote on Wed, 10 April 2013 14:31

I installed a jack-knife sofa that runs from the refrigerator to the edge of the 2nd step. Didn't have to notch a thing. What kind of jack knife sofa are you installing???

Ray


Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
One that was clearly not made to be installed directly behind the driver's seat of a GMC.
Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat? [message #204308 is a reply to message #204305] Wed, 10 April 2013 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A Hamilto wrote on Wed, 10 April 2013 18:55

Ray Erspamer wrote on Wed, 10 April 2013 14:31

I installed a jack-knife sofa that runs from the refrigerator to the edge of the 2nd step. Didn't have to notch a thing. What kind of jack knife sofa are you installing???

Ray


Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
One that was clearly not made to be installed directly behind the driver's seat of a GMC.




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Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat? [message #204341 is a reply to message #204308] Thu, 11 April 2013 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Neither was mine, but I changed the way the jack knife mounts were mounted to
the sofa. My coach is still in winter storage, when I pick it up (within the
next week) I can take some pictures of what I did.

Ray


Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/




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From: Joe Kemenczky <toyomojoe@live.com>
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Sent: Wed, April 10, 2013 6:35:42 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat?



A Hamilto wrote on Wed, 10 April 2013 18:55
> Ray Erspamer wrote on Wed, 10 April 2013 14:31
> > I installed a jack-knife sofa that runs from the refrigerator to the edge of
>the 2nd step. Didn't have to notch a thing. What kind of jack knife sofa are
>you installing???
> >
> > Ray
> >
> >
> > Ray & Lisa
> > 78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
> > Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
> > Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> > Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> > 414-745-3188
> > Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
> One that was clearly not made to be installed directly behind the driver's seat
>of a GMC.




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Working on complete restoration. In year 2 of a 3 year restoration.
Loving every minute!
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Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat? [message #204349 is a reply to message #204341] Thu, 11 April 2013 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you guys keep messing with the step, you are going to make the trolls
that live under there angry. You all know that it is never a good thing to
have angry trolls any where near a GMC. (very big grin)
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Apr 11, 2013 6:49 AM, "Ray Erspamer" <78gmc-royale@att.net> wrote:

> Neither was mine, but I changed the way the jack knife mounts were mounted
> to
> the sofa. My coach is still in winter storage, when I pick it up (within
> the
> next week) I can take some pictures of what I did.
>
> Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa
> 78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Joe Kemenczky <toyomojoe@live.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Wed, April 10, 2013 6:35:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat?
>
>
>
> A Hamilto wrote on Wed, 10 April 2013 18:55
> > Ray Erspamer wrote on Wed, 10 April 2013 14:31
> > > I installed a jack-knife sofa that runs from the refrigerator to the
> edge of
> >the 2nd step. Didn't have to notch a thing. What kind of jack knife
> sofa are
> >you installing???
> > >
> > > Ray
> > >
> > >
> > > Ray & Lisa
> > > 78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
> > > Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
> > > Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> > > Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> > > 414-745-3188
> > > Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
> > One that was clearly not made to be installed directly behind the
> driver's seat
> >of a GMC.
>
>
>
>
> :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
> --
> Joe Kemenczky
> 1975 Eleganza ll (Odie) 75,000 miles.
> Working on complete restoration. In year 2 of a 3 year restoration.
> Loving every minute!
> Monroe, NC (East of Charlotte).
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Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat? [message #204350 is a reply to message #204349] Thu, 11 April 2013 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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I didn't have to change the step at all, there's no way I'd mess the trolls, you
wake them up and they cause all kinds of trouble !

Ray


Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/




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From: James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thu, April 11, 2013 9:58:27 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat?

If you guys keep messing with the step, you are going to make the trolls
that live under there angry. You all know that it is never a good thing to
have angry trolls any where near a GMC. (very big grin)
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Apr 11, 2013 6:49 AM, "Ray Erspamer" <78gmc-royale@att.net> wrote:

> Neither was mine, but I changed the way the jack knife mounts were mounted
> to
> the sofa. My coach is still in winter storage, when I pick it up (within
> the
> next week) I can take some pictures of what I did.
>
> Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa
> 78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Joe Kemenczky <toyomojoe@live.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Wed, April 10, 2013 6:35:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat?
>
>
>
> A Hamilto wrote on Wed, 10 April 2013 18:55
> > Ray Erspamer wrote on Wed, 10 April 2013 14:31
> > > I installed a jack-knife sofa that runs from the refrigerator to the
> edge of
> >the 2nd step. Didn't have to notch a thing. What kind of jack knife
> sofa are
> >you installing???
> > >
> > > Ray
> > >
> > >
> > > Ray & Lisa
> > > 78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
> > > Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
> > > Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> > > Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> > > 414-745-3188
> > > Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
> > One that was clearly not made to be installed directly behind the
> driver's seat
> >of a GMC.
>
>
>
>
> :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
> --
> Joe Kemenczky
> 1975 Eleganza ll (Odie) 75,000 miles.
> Working on complete restoration. In year 2 of a 3 year restoration.
> Loving every minute!
> Monroe, NC (East of Charlotte).
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Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat? [message #204353 is a reply to message #204349] Thu, 11 April 2013 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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James Hupy wrote on Thu, 11 April 2013 09:58

If you guys keep messing with the step, you are going to make the trolls that live under there angry. You all know that it is never a good thing to have angry trolls any where near a GMC. (very big grin)
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
First I have heard about trolls on this forum. Are they related to the gremlins that cause all the other problems we experience?
Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat? [message #204356 is a reply to message #204353] Thu, 11 April 2013 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, And this is top secret, not to be repeated, MURPHY is in charge
of trolls, gremlins, tribbles, and all other troublecausers, that
inhabit Gmc's. As a matter of fact, one of those buggers screwed me up
yesterday. I was giving ignition timing procedures to a young Gmc owner by
telephone last night and when he put the timing light on # 1 cylinder, the
timing marks were no where to be seen. Turns out, the points distributor
had been replaced with a Paterson ignition, and the troll that installed
it, put it in 180 degrees out, then rewired the secondary wires to
compensate. Now, 6 has become 1. Try figuring that one out sitting in your
favorite recliner after happy hour and dinner. Not my most productive time
of day.
But this morning, clearer heads prevailed, and we have beaten Murphy and
his band of merry pranksters once again. Damn, I love working on this old
STUFF.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Apr 11, 2013 9:24 AM, "A." <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:

>
>
> James Hupy wrote on Thu, 11 April 2013 09:58
> > If you guys keep messing with the step, you are going to make the trolls
> that live under there angry. You all know that it is never a good thing to
> have angry trolls any where near a GMC. (very big grin)
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, Or
> > 78 Gmc Royale 403
> First I have heard about trolls on this forum. Are they related to the
> gremlins that cause all the other problems we experience?
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat? [message #204362 is a reply to message #204356] Thu, 11 April 2013 12:25 Go to previous message
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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Ahhhhhhhhh, besides the trolls & gremlins, sounds like Mr. Rube Goldberg also
stepped in to help. Sounds logical to me, put the dist in 180 off....so switch
all the wires.....maybe he could have just removed the timing chain and rotated
the cam 180 too !

Ray


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78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/




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From: James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thu, April 11, 2013 11:47:35 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What's Under The Step Behind The Driver's Seat?

Actually, And this is top secret, not to be repeated, MURPHY is in charge
of trolls, gremlins, tribbles, and all other troublecausers, that
inhabit Gmc's. As a matter of fact, one of those buggers screwed me up
yesterday. I was giving ignition timing procedures to a young Gmc owner by
telephone last night and when he put the timing light on # 1 cylinder, the
timing marks were no where to be seen. Turns out, the points distributor
had been replaced with a Paterson ignition, and the troll that installed
it, put it in 180 degrees out, then rewired the secondary wires to
compensate. Now, 6 has become 1. Try figuring that one out sitting in your
favorite recliner after happy hour and dinner. Not my most productive time
of day.
But this morning, clearer heads prevailed, and we have beaten Murphy and
his band of merry pranksters once again. Damn, I love working on this old
STUFF.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Apr 11, 2013 9:24 AM, "A." <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:

>
>
> James Hupy wrote on Thu, 11 April 2013 09:58
> > If you guys keep messing with the step, you are going to make the trolls
> that live under there angry. You all know that it is never a good thing to
> have angry trolls any where near a GMC. (very big grin)
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, Or
> > 78 Gmc Royale 403
> First I have heard about trolls on this forum. Are they related to the
> gremlins that cause all the other problems we experience?
> --
> '73 23' Sequoia For Camping
> '73 23' CanyonLands For Sale
> UA (Upper Alabama)
> "Time is money. If you use YOUR time, you get to keep YOUR money."
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