| TZE # (Early Model or Late) [message #204234] |
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LEdmcconnell
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What is the dividing line between early & late model
TZE numbers for 1976 GMCMH?
Luther McConnell
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Bridgeton, MO
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| Re: TZE # (Early Model or Late) [message #204235 is a reply to message #204234] |
Wed, 10 April 2013 01:24  |
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| LEdmcconnell wrote on Tue, 09 April 2013 23:17 |
What is the dividing line between early & late model
TZE numbers for 1976 GMCMH?
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I am not sure of the TZE of the change, but I would call any with Power Level (Knobs on the dash) "early" and any with Electro Level (switches on the dash) I would call "late."
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: TZE # (Early Model or Late) [message #204242 is a reply to message #204234] |
Wed, 10 April 2013 07:37 |
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TZE # (Early Model or Late)
What is the dividing line between early & late model
TZE numbers for 1976 GMCMH?
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The TZE when most changes were implemented is 6V100878
1976 Maintenance Manual Supplement X-7625 was issued to adress these many changes. They were effective with TZE #s as follows:
TZE166V100878
TZE336V100880
TZE366V100883
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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| Re: [GMCnet] TZE # (Early Model or Late) [message #204261 is a reply to message #204240] |
Wed, 10 April 2013 09:48 |
Dave Mumert
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HI
I have vin 1461, it has the Electro Level system.
That cuts it down to 297.
Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] TZE # (Early Model or Late)
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> Don't know when the change was either, but we looked at a coach with vin
> TZE166V101162 and birth date of 1/21/76 that had the power level knobs and we own coach vin TZE166V101534 with birth date of
> 3/376 that has the Electro Level rockers, so that narrows the vins down to about 37o units and the birth dates to a little over a
month
> of production. If GMC did things in an orderly manner!
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> Bert and Fay Curtis
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| Re: [GMCnet] TZE # (Early Model or Late) [message #204276 is a reply to message #204262] |
Wed, 10 April 2013 12:15 |
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My 820 transmode has PowerLevel II
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] TZE # (Early Model or Late)
My ...1080 (23' transmode) has EL too.
Ken H.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Dave Mumert wrote:
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> I have vin 1461, it has the Electro Level system.
> That cuts it down to 297.
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| Re: [GMCnet] TZE # (Early Model or Late) [message #204283 is a reply to message #204276] |
Wed, 10 April 2013 14:25 |
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1458 with electrolevel
Appie
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| Re: TZE # (Early Model or Late) [message #204286 is a reply to message #204242] |
Wed, 10 April 2013 14:51 |
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TZE # (Early Model or Late)
The TZE when most changes were implemented is 6V100878
1976 Maintenance Manual Supplement X-7625 was issued to adress these many changes. They were effective with TZE #s as follows:
TZE166V100878
TZE336V100880
TZE366V100883
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Thought maybe I could narrow the change from Power leveler to Electro leveler from the official GMC Manual listing by using the Service Parts Identification sticker (glove box sticker) data that I have collected. Here is what I found:
From the earliest 1973 to the latest 1977 they are identified as option "GYE" and are ALL called, "Power Suspension Leveler".
For 1978 the first ~600 are option "GXW" "Susp Dana Air".
After ~600 there is no option listed for the remainder of '78s.
Not much help, but that is the story.
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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| Re: [GMCnet] TZE # (Early Model or Late) [message #204300 is a reply to message #204290] |
Wed, 10 April 2013 16:26 |
bryant374
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Re: [GMCnet] TZE # (Early Model or Late)
Wed, 10 April 2013 16:01
James Hupy
The 1978 transmodes that were upfitted by JIMMY INDUSTRIES (Coachman) had
the EL 2 system with 2 compressors and electronic ride height controls. I
believe that most of the GM upfitted late 77 and 78 did also. I have never
encountered a 78 that did not, but with GMC's anything is possible.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
Jim, I am aware of the EL 2 system on 78s. I was hoping someone would pick up on my mention of the first 600 1978s using a different option number and the remaining 78s having no listing at all. By the way, I have not seen a 77 with EL 2, that does not mean it didn't happen.
May I suggest the following:
1- Anyone out there with a 1978 with a TZE sequence# <600 let us know which suspension system you have? *
2- Anyone with a 1977 with a TZE sequence# >2,000, what suspension system do you have?
Don't care about TZEs outside of the above ranges, thanks,
*= Weidner & Slayton + others fall within this group 
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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| Re: [GMCnet] TZE # (Early Model or Late) [message #204315 is a reply to message #204300] |
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| bryant374 wrote on Wed, 10 April 2013 14:26 |
> The 1978 transmodes that were upfitted by JIMMY INDUSTRIES
>(Coachman) had the EL 2 system with 2 compressors and
> electronic ride height controls. I believe that most of the
> GM upfitted late 77 and 78 did also. I have never encountered a
> 78 that did not, but with GMC's anything is possible.
I am aware of the EL 2 system on 78s. I was hoping someone would pick up on my mention of the first 600 1978s using a different option number and the remaining 78s having no listing at all. By the way, I have not seen a 77 with EL 2, that does not mean it didn't happen.
May I suggest the following:
1- Anyone out there with a 1978 with a TZE sequence# <600 let us know which suspension system you have? *
2- Anyone with a 1977 with a TZE sequence# >2,000, what suspension system do you have?
Don't care about TZEs outside of the above ranges, thanks,
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At the last TI rally, I was looking at a 1978 Birchaven a lot like mine. I do not remember who owned it, but It had a lower (than mine) TZE and it had the first Electro Level system. (Single air-pump w/all the solenoids.)
I am fairly sure you'll not find any OEM installed EL2 systems in anything other than a "later" 1978.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] TZE # (Early Model or Late) [message #204338 is a reply to message #204328] |
Thu, 11 April 2013 08:05 |
bryant374
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Thanks for the feedback. What I expected was was the early 1978s continued usage of the single Dana system and at some point, around TZE~600 was a switch to EL II.
New question:
- Would like feedback for early 1978 TZEs that used the EL II system, trying to determine when the phase in occurred
(expecting TZEs >600 & <1000)
Appreciate your input.
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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| Re: [GMCnet] TZE # (Early Model or Late) [message #204427 is a reply to message #204242] |
Thu, 11 April 2013 18:59 |
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I show EL1 was introduced with 6V100878 12/21/75
and EL II was 1st installed in 8V100741 12/16/77
While I am at it, the following represents the results of data collection
over the past 20 + years plus what I think I know. Since I'll be leaving
the Mail List soon I thought I would share it for what it is worth.
Begin 403 Engine TZE167V101285
Begin 403 Engine TZE337V101287
Begin 403 Engine TZE367V101312
Begin A/C Ducting TZExx6V100062
Begin Clear Coat ID Decal TZE063V102262
Begin Convoluted Conduit L Headlight To Solenoid TZE167V101456
Begin ElectroLevel I & 2 wire speaker system, 12/01/75 TZE166V100878
Begin ElectroLevel II TZE368V100741
Begin End Of 455 Engine TZE167V101284
Begin End of Lock Patch End of entry lock SS plate TZExx3V101850
Begin Exterior GFCI Outlet
Optional outlet wiring changes, Pub x7525B, Maint Manual, effective 11/75
TZE165V100893
Begin Fiberglass Fenderwells In Rear TZEx65V100001
Begin HEI Ignition TZE165V100472
Begin Imron Paint
Imron synthetic enamel previously
TZE165V100089
Begin Large Bogie Pins
Begin larger (1-1/4" to 1-1/2") pins/bushings in rear suspension, see
recall campagn 74-C-07, and is dated 05/74
TZExx4V101024
Begin Radial Wheels TZE165V101674
Begin Rain Gutters (unconfirmed) TZE0x3V102008
Begin Rain Gutters Last coach w/o rain gutters (unconfirmed) TZE0x3V102024
Begin Rear Pins Recall Recall 1-1/4" pins, all 73/74 prior to 4V101024
TZE0x4V101024
02/74, recall 1-C-06, it has been determined that the wheels on the GMC
Motor Home are not compatible with radial tires, Group 10 TZExx4V101010
Begin SMC Wheel Wells
Rear wheelhouse panel changed from Polyplastic to SMC/Fiberglass
TZE034V101022
Begin Solid Center Strip under belt molding TZExx6V100788
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Bill Bryant <bryant374@earthlink.net>wrote:
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> What is the dividing line between early & late model
> TZE numbers for 1976 GMCMH?
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> The TZE when most changes were implemented is 6V100878
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> 1976~PB
> 1914 Ford
> 1965 Corvette
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| Re: [GMCnet] TZE # (Early Model or Late) [message #204645 is a reply to message #204427] |
Sun, 14 April 2013 13:21 |
Mr ERFisher
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POPS. NO. NO
Don't say that
Gene
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> Since I'll be leaving
> the Mail List soon I thought I would share it for what it is worth.
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> Begin 403 Engine TZE167V101285
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> Begin 403 Engine TZE337V101287
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> Begin 403 Engine TZE367V101312
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> Begin A/C Ducting TZExx6V100062
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> Begin Clear Coat ID Decal TZE063V102262
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> Begin Convoluted Conduit L Headlight To Solenoid TZE167V101456
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> Begin ElectroLevel I & 2 wire speaker system, 12/01/75 TZE166V100878
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> Begin ElectroLevel II TZE368V100741
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> Begin End Of 455 Engine TZE167V101284
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> Begin End of Lock Patch End of entry lock SS plate TZExx3V101850
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> Begin Exterior GFCI Outlet
> Optional outlet wiring changes, Pub x7525B, Maint Manual, effective 11/75
> TZE165V100893
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> Begin Fiberglass Fenderwells In Rear TZEx65V100001
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> Begin HEI Ignition TZE165V100472
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> Begin Imron Paint
> Imron synthetic enamel previously
> TZE165V100089
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> Begin Large Bogie Pins
> Begin larger (1-1/4" to 1-1/2") pins/bushings in rear suspension, see
> recall campagn 74-C-07, and is dated 05/74
> TZExx4V101024
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> Begin Radial Wheels TZE165V101674
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> Begin Rain Gutters (unconfirmed) TZE0x3V102008
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> Begin Rain Gutters Last coach w/o rain gutters (unconfirmed) TZE0x3V102024
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> Begin Rear Pins Recall Recall 1-1/4" pins, all 73/74 prior to 4V101024
> TZE0x4V101024
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> 02/74, recall 1-C-06, it has been determined that the wheels on the GMC
> Motor Home are not compatible with radial tires, Group 10 TZExx4V101010
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> Begin SMC Wheel Wells
> Rear wheelhouse panel changed from Polyplastic to SMC/Fiberglass
> TZE034V101022
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> Begin Solid Center Strip under belt molding TZExx6V100788
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> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Bill Bryant <bryant374@earthlink.net>wrote:
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>> TZE # (Early Model or Late)
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>> What is the dividing line between early & late model
>> TZE numbers for 1976 GMCMH?
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>> The TZE when most changes were implemented is 6V100878
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>> --
>> Bill Bryant
>> 1976~PB
>> 1914 Ford
>> 1965 Corvette
>> GMC MH History CD
>> GMC Showroom Films DVD
>> http://bdub.net/billbryant/
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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> --
> *David Lee Greenberg
> Port St Lucie, FL *
> *skype: david.lee.greenberg
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