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[GMCnet] GM or Holley EFI [message #203920] Sun, 07 April 2013 11:00 Go to next message
BobDunahugh is currently offline  BobDunahugh   United States
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Now that my door widening project is completed. And worked well at the Rally in Dulthen. And the week after. It's time to move on to the next money pit project. That's EFI. I like the GM system. But have a 2 inch Holley Projection system that can be up dated with digital controls from Holley, at a cost of about $600. The Holley would have an Oxg sensor with a programmable controller. Or can the Holley throttle body be used with the GM controls? It's vary similar to the GM. I have all of the proper electrical plugs to adapt. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] GM or Holley EFI [message #203946 is a reply to message #203920] Sun, 07 April 2013 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,

To my way of thinking I put great value in the experience and help offered here and on the EFI list. I'd be inclined to sell the Holley unit and go with Howell / GM with the EBL and electronic distributor. Karen rolled her own from bone-yard parts (mostly) with good success and then added the EBL with great success. Then again I don't have enough time or money to do either right now!

Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
Fremont, Ca

On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:00 AM, Bob Dunahugh <yenko108@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Now that my door widening project is completed. And worked well at the Rally in Dulthen. And the week after. It's time to move on to the next money pit project. That's EFI. I like the GM system. But have a 2 inch Holley Projection system that can be up dated with digital controls from Holley, at a cost of about $600. The Holley would have an Oxg sensor with a programmable controller. Or can the Holley throttle body be used with the GM controls? It's vary similar to the GM. I have all of the proper electrical plugs to adapt.
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Re: [GMCnet] GM or Holley EFI [message #203962 is a reply to message #203920] Sun, 07 April 2013 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Bob,
That's a pretty fool proof system. I ran it on a '57 Chevy for many, many
years with zero problems. Simple, easy to install and no upkeep.
Steve


On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Bob Dunahugh <yenko108@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Now that my door widening project is completed. And worked well at the
> Rally in Dulthen. And the week after. It's time to move on to the next
> money pit project. That's EFI. I like the GM system. But have a 2 inch
> Holley Projection system that can be up dated with digital controls from
> Holley, at a cost of about $600. The Holley would have an Oxg sensor with a
> programmable controller. Or can the Holley throttle body be used with the
> GM controls? It's vary similar to the GM. I have all of the proper
> electrical plugs to adapt. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] GM or Holley EFI [message #203973 is a reply to message #203962] Sun, 07 April 2013 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob, you and I have already visited on this subject. Forgot to tell you that I am always interested in a working computer for the Holley Pro-Jection, as a spare. The one spare I have is acting up a bit. I keep new parts like injector and TPS for spares. Got a throttle body spare too. Don't have a spare 02 sensor box or wiring harness.
Anyway, call me when you need to. Always enjoy visiting.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] GM or Holley EFI [message #203975 is a reply to message #203973] Sun, 07 April 2013 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CARLETON DOUGLAS[2] is currently offline  CARLETON DOUGLAS[2]   United States
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Greetings,

I have two Pro-Jections one is a 2 burial and the other is a 4 burial with
control box and oxygen sensor controller with cable, the 4 burial and
controller are new contact me at 928-227-2873

Carleton

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:

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>
> Bob, you and I have already visited on this subject. Forgot to tell you
> that I am always interested in a working computer for the Holley
> Pro-Jection, as a spare. The one spare I have is acting up a bit. I keep
> new parts like injector and TPS for spares. Got a throttle body spare too.
> Don't have a spare 02 sensor box or wiring harness.
> Anyway, call me when you need to. Always enjoy visiting.
> Dan
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> http://danandteri.blogspot.com/
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Re: [GMCnet] GM or Holley EFI [message #203988 is a reply to message #203975] Sun, 07 April 2013 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wrote on Sun, 07 April 2013 17:31]Greetings,

I have two Pro-Jections one is a 2 burial and the other is a 4 burial with
control box and oxygen sensor controller with cable, the 4 burial and
controller are new contact me at 928-227-2873

Carleton

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Bob, you and I have already visited on this subject. Forgot to tell you
> that I am always interested in a working computer for the Holley
> Pro-Jection, as a spare. The one spare I have is acting up a bit. I keep
> new parts like injector and TPS for spares. Got a throttle body spare too.
> Don't have a spare 02 sensor box or wiring harness.
> Anyway, call me when you need to. Always enjoy visiting.
> Dan
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> Dexter, Mo.
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> http://danandteri.blogspot.com/
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Thanks. I dont need entire units. I just pick up spare parts for mine when I can. Sounds like you need to sell those as complete units. Mine is the 2 barrel. Someone here might need a complete unit though.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] GM or Holley EFI [message #204255 is a reply to message #203920] Wed, 10 April 2013 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BobDunahugh wrote on Sun, 07 April 2013 09:00

Now that my door widening project is completed. And worked well at the Rally in Dulthen. And the week after. It's time to move on to the next money pit project. That's EFI. I like the GM system. But have a 2 inch Holley Projection system that can be up dated with digital controls from Holley, at a cost of about $600. The Holley would have an Oxg sensor with a programmable controller. Or can the Holley throttle body be used with the GM controls? It's vary similar to the GM. I have all of the proper electrical plugs


Bob,

The Holly projection will probably work fine for fuel control. Those of us with the EBL system have found that spark is more effective when it comes to performance and even a bit of fuel economy. The EBL controls both spark and fuel in relation to each other. The computer is aware of what the engine is doing and adjusts spark when fuel is leaned or enriched.

If we could find what the throttle sensor, the IAC ( idle air stepper motor) requirements and injectors are, I see no reason why you could not use EBL (GM based) to control it. As long as those were compatible.

The good news is that the Howell unit uses a Holly TBI and I am guessing Holly didn't look too far for the components.

Some of the sharp folks at the EFI group may instantly know the answers.


'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
Re: [GMCnet] GM or Holley EFI [message #204302 is a reply to message #204255] Wed, 10 April 2013 16:44 Go to previous message
Kosier is currently offline  Kosier   United States
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George,

Howell started out using Holley throttle bodies, for one of several reasons
I've heard. It was Holleys replacement for the GM 454 unit. They later
switched to the GM unit. I had one of the Holley units and was a little
unhappy with it. Actually, it was a PITA. When I switched to the big
Caddy, I used the Q-jet, which I'm pretty good with. I do have a Caddy
injection that I will try later, when I get time. It's down a little on the
priority list. Too many project, not enough butt. LOL

Gary Kosier

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BobDunahugh wrote on Sun, 07 April 2013 09:00
> Now that my door widening project is completed. And worked well at the
> Rally in Dulthen. And the week after. It's time to move on to the next
> money pit project. That's EFI. I like the GM system. But have a 2 inch
> Holley Projection system that can be up dated with digital controls from
> Holley, at a cost of about $600. The Holley would have an Oxg sensor with
> a programmable controller. Or can the Holley throttle body be used with
> the GM controls? It's vary similar to the GM. I have all of the proper
> electrical plugs

Bob,

The Holly projection will probably work fine for fuel control. Those of us
with the EBL system have found that spark is more effective when it comes to
performance and even a bit of fuel economy. The EBL controls both spark and
fuel in relation to each other. The computer is aware of what the engine is
doing and adjusts spark when fuel is leaned or enriched.

If we could find what the throttle sensor, the IAC ( idle air stepper motor)
requirements and injectors are, I see no reason why you could not use EBL
(GM based) to control it. As long as those were compatible.

The good news is that the Howell unit uses a Holly TBI and I am guessing
Holly didn't look too far for the components.

Some of the sharp folks at the EFI group may instantly know the answers.
--
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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