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Yet another ethanol is bad article --but this one is in the financial press [message #203409] Tue, 02 April 2013 10:21 Go to next message
rcjordan   United States
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Ethanol Has Its Place, but Not in Gasoline

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-01/etahnol-has-its-place-but-not-in-gasoline.html

Gas prices are the 4th rail of US politics. If ethanol can be singled out as a significant contributor to the price increases, this may end up turning out well for the ethanol-haters.


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Re: Yet another ethanol is bad article --but this one is in the financial press [message #203414 is a reply to message #203409] Tue, 02 April 2013 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rcjordan wrote on Tue, 02 April 2013 08:21

Ethanol Has Its Place, but Not in Gasoline

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-01/etahnol-has-its-place-but-not-in-gasoline.html

Gas prices are the 4th rail of US politics. If ethanol can be singled out as a significant contributor to the price increases, this may end up turning out well for the ethanol-haters.


I agree with the article except for this statement:

"Ethanol may have its place. It can help gasoline burn more efficiently in older car engines, ..."

But if it can help reduce the requirement for food to be put into our tanks, causing the engines to run worse... I can live with it.

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Re: Yet another ethanol is bad article --but this one is in the financial press [message #203424 is a reply to message #203409] Tue, 02 April 2013 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
habbyguy is currently offline  habbyguy   United States
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Considering the overwhelming anecdotal evidence from our many GMCs, I really don't buy that mixing ethanol in gasoline helps it burn more efficiently. If that was the case, why do we get SO much better gas mileage burning non-ethanol gas? I will assume that 10 gallons of 10% ethanol will take you very slightly farther than 9 gallons of "real gas", but that hardly counts as "efficient" in any way I could use the word (especially since it takes about a gallon of "real gas" to produce that gallon of ethanol).

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Re: Yet another ethanol is bad article --but this one is in the financial press [message #203428 is a reply to message #203409] Tue, 02 April 2013 13:39 Go to previous message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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As many of you know, I have worked in engine labs for many years. Back in the early 80's we were doing ethanol testing. At the time, it was so rare that we often had to blend our own. The one thing that we did prove was that it made no measurable difference in emissions when used in an engine that was tuned to the manufacturer's specifications. It made no difference in performance (except for higher fuel consumption at peak load) with a closed loop engine and reduced the peak performance of an open loop (like GMC with Rochester) engine.

And that is all I will say about that today.

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