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fitzmorrispr
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Does anyone know which key blank is the correct one to use for the entry door?
The PO at some point had it copied to a funny little Briggs & Stratton
key, which works just fine, but is a bit tweaked, and doesn't look
good on the ring. He later lost his original.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Keys [message #202297 is a reply to message #202291] |
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Joe Ekl, who's to be a Dothan, knows what key blanks were used. I know for
the ignition there were two but not sure about the door.
Byron Songer
Louisville, KY
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>mjbourgon wrote on Wed, 20 March 2013 18:23
>> The key used on both my coaches is the trunk key for a general motors
>> vehicle
>> Marcel
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>What he said ^
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| Re: [GMCnet] Keys [message #202334 is a reply to message #202314] |
Thu, 21 March 2013 06:59 |
Bruce Hart
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Of the five sets of keys that I have in front of me from Curtis, Ace, ilco,
the reference # for ignition is B-50 and door lock is B-51. On another key
that has a black rubber mold on the head of the key the # is B-48P
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:43 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:
> Standard GM blanks. I had dupes made at Wal-Mart auto department.
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> Mac of OKC
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> Currently in Holly Springs, MS for the night.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 20, 2013, at 19:22, "Byron Songer" <bsonger@songerconsulting.net>
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> Joe Ekl, who's to be a Dothan, knows what key blanks were used. I know for
> the ignition there were two but not sure about the door.
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> Byron Songer
> Louisville, KY
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> ATTENTION: This reply is in reference to what is provided belowÅ
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> > mjbourgon wrote on Wed, 20 March 2013 18:23
> >> The key used on both my coaches is the trunk key for a general motors
> >> vehicle
> >> Marcel
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> > What he said ^
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> > "Walküre" - 1974 VW Thing
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| Re: [GMCnet] Keys [message #202372 is a reply to message #202334] |
Thu, 21 March 2013 11:04 |
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fitzmorrispr
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hmm. My ignition key says B44, and doesn't have any brand info. Might
be the original, though, it's awfully shiny for a 40 year old vehicle
key.
As mentioned before, the door key I've got is a Briggs & Stratton key,
which, despite George having one too, doesn't seem right. (also, mine
has no stampings on it whatsoever, and it looks like the sides were
ground down to make it fit into the lock)
The shop manual says stuff about coded keyways on the ignition and
glovebox, and that the 'other keys' would have a code disk. Obviously,
I don't have a code disk, and i'm actually more interested in which
blank is correct, since the GM door key from my dad's '86 Suburban
fits into the lock, but not as well as the Briggs & Stratton. (it has
some extra play in the vertical direction, where the Briggs & Stratton
has a bump at the base which eliminates such play)
It occurs to me, that on every multiple-key vehicle I've worked with
before, the glovebox has used the same key as the doors. I'm gonna go
see if the B&S fits my glovebox, because then maybe I can find
somethng stamped on the lock cylinder.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Bruce Hart <hartsgmc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Of the five sets of keys that I have in front of me from Curtis, Ace, ilco,
> the reference # for ignition is B-50 and door lock is B-51. On another key
> that has a black rubber mold on the head of the key the # is B-48P
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:43 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Standard GM blanks. I had dupes made at Wal-Mart auto department.
>>
>> Mac of OKC
>>
>> Currently in Holly Springs, MS for the night.
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>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 20, 2013, at 19:22, "Byron Songer" <bsonger@songerconsulting.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Joe Ekl, who's to be a Dothan, knows what key blanks were used. I know for
>> the ignition there were two but not sure about the door.
>>
>> Byron Songer
>> Louisville, KY
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>> ATTENTION: This reply is in reference to what is provided belowÅ
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>> > mjbourgon wrote on Wed, 20 March 2013 18:23
>> >> The key used on both my coaches is the trunk key for a general motors
>> >> vehicle
>> >> Marcel
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>> >
>> >
>> > What he said ^
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>> > --
>> > "Vahalla" - 1978 GMC Royale
>> > "Walküre" - 1974 VW Thing
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| Re: [GMCnet] Keys [message #202373 is a reply to message #202313] |
Thu, 21 March 2013 11:26 |
GMC Cruse
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| GMC Cruse wrote on Wed, 20 March 2013 22:24 |
| fitzmorrispr wrote on Wed, 20 March 2013 18:22 |
Does anyone know which key blank is the correct one to use for the entry door?
The PO at some point had it copied to a funny little Briggs & Stratton
key, which works just fine, but is a bit tweaked, and doesn't look
good on the ring. He later lost his original.
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The rounded one in is picture fits my door. The rectangular one partially seen in the photo fits my ignition.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/memorabilia/p40919-grandview-key-fob.html
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The door key in the link has B49 on it with S98B
below that. It's for a 75 GMC.
Mike K.
'75 PB
Southeast Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Keys [message #202375 is a reply to message #202373] |
Thu, 21 March 2013 11:39 |
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The door latch on my '78' Royale is made by the same company that makes Peterbuilt/Kenworth trucks. Should have no problem finding a key made there. I am so pleased to know that at least part of my GMC motor-home is made by Kenworth, a truck I drove for over 1.5 million miles. :-)
Howard Nylander
Royale Class of '78' - 'Rocinante'
Greeneville, Tn.
http://www.howardnylander.com/ blog/
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From: Mike <carcruse@comcast.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Keys
GMC Cruse wrote on Wed, 20 March 2013 22:24
> fitzmorrispr wrote on Wed, 20 March 2013 18:22
> > Does anyone know which key blank is the correct one to use for the entry door?
> >
> > The PO at some point had it copied to a funny little Briggs & Stratton
> > key, which works just fine, but is a bit tweaked, and doesn't look
> > good on the ring. He later lost his original.
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> The rounded one in is picture fits my door. The rectangular one partially seen in the photo fits my ignition.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/memorabilia/p40919-grandview-key-fob.html
The door key in the link has B49 on it with S98B
below that. It's for a 75 GMC.
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Mike K.
'75 PB
Southeast Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Keys [message #202376 is a reply to message #202372] |
Thu, 21 March 2013 11:41 |
C Boyd
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SIR; I believe the early 73 models had a different door key type blank. Like a briggs or KW. Don`t know when they changed to the GM door key.
[quote title=fitzmorrispr wrote on Thu, 21 March 2013 12:04]hmm. My ignition key says B44, and doesn't have any brand info. Might
be the original, though, it's awfully shiny for a 40 year old vehicle
key.
As mentioned before, the door key I've got is a Briggs & Stratton key,
which, despite George having one too, doesn't seem right. (also, mine
has no stampings on it whatsoever, and it looks like the sides were
ground down to make it fit into the lock)
The shop manual says stuff about coded keyways on the ignition and
glovebox, and that the 'other keys' would have a code disk. Obviously,
I don't have a code disk, and i'm actually more interested in which
blank is correct, since the GM door key from my dad's '86 Suburban
fits into the lock, but not as well as the Briggs & Stratton. (it has
some extra play in the vertical direction, where the Briggs & Stratton
has a bump at the base which eliminates such play)
It occurs to me, that on every multiple-key vehicle I've worked with
before, the glovebox has used the same key as the doors. I'm gonna go
see if the B&S fits my glovebox, because then maybe I can find
somethng stamped on the lock cylinder.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Bruce Hart <[email]
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] Keys [message #202388 is a reply to message #202375] |
Thu, 21 March 2013 13:32 |
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I pass the Paccar factory just outside Starkville, MS a couple times a year going to a show over there.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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From: Howard Nylander <uziyah@yahoo.com>
To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Keys
The door latch on my '78' Royale is made by the same company that makes Peterbuilt/Kenworth trucks. Should have no problem finding a key made there. I am so pleased to know that at least part of my GMC motor-home is made by Kenworth, a truck I drove for over 1.5 million miles. :-)
Howard Nylander
Royale Class of '78' - 'Rocinante'
Greeneville, Tn.
http://www.howardnylander.com/ blog/
http://www.youtube.com/user/uziyah
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From: Mike <carcruse@comcast.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Keys
GMC Cruse wrote on Wed, 20 March 2013 22:24
> fitzmorrispr wrote on Wed, 20 March 2013 18:22
> > Does anyone know which key blank is the correct one to use for the entry door?
> >
> > The PO at some point had it copied to a funny little Briggs & Stratton
> > key, which works just fine, but is a bit tweaked, and doesn't look
> > good on the ring. He later lost his original.
> > _______________________________________________
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> The rounded one in is picture fits my door. The rectangular one partially seen in the photo fits my ignition.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/memorabilia/p40919-grandview-key-fob.html
The door key in the link has B49 on it with S98B
below that. It's for a 75 GMC.
--
Mike K.
'75 PB
Southeast Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Keys [message #202421 is a reply to message #202388] |
Thu, 21 March 2013 20:22 |
Don A
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I just checked the keys for my '76. The door also is B49, the ignition B50; both from TrueValue hardware.
Sure wish Joe Ekl had some labeled "GMC".
But I don't think this will help with the '73.
Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
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| Re: [GMCnet] Keys [message #202424 is a reply to message #202375] |
Thu, 21 March 2013 21:02 |
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here are some hints on door latches
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I brought my bad cylinder to the local Kenworth dealer, and they had the
new ones in stock. It is just like the old one, except that I had to
grind some of the flanges off each side where the slide-clip holds the
cylinder to the door. The newer ones use a big snap ring that did not
look like it could be used on the GMC. (Unless there is another Kenworth
part that truly fits as is.) The part number for a set of two cylinders
is 30GN15. They are not $22 or $30 for a set anymore, though; I paid
just over $60 for the pair. (Some of that may be the normal
"California/Bay Area tax", though.)
Chris Musselman
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On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Howard Nylander <uziyah@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The door latch on my '78' Royale is made by the same company that makes
> Peterbuilt/Kenworth trucks. Should have no problem finding a key made
> there. I am so pleased to know that at least part of my GMC motor-home is
> made by Kenworth, a truck I drove for over 1.5 million miles. :-)
>
>
>
> Howard Nylander
> Royale Class of '78' - 'Rocinante'
> Greeneville, Tn.
>
> http://www.howardnylander.com/ blog/
> http://www.youtube.com/user/uziyah
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> From: Mike <carcruse@comcast.net>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Keys
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> GMC Cruse wrote on Wed, 20 March 2013 22:24
> > fitzmorrispr wrote on Wed, 20 March 2013 18:22
> > > Does anyone know which key blank is the correct one to use for the
> entry door?
> > >
> > > The PO at some point had it copied to a funny little Briggs & Stratton
> > > key, which works just fine, but is a bit tweaked, and doesn't look
> > > good on the ring. He later lost his original.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GMCnet mailing list
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> > The rounded one in is picture fits my door. The rectangular one
> partially seen in the photo fits my ignition.
> >
> >
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/memorabilia/p40919-grandview-key-fob.html
>
>
> The door key in the link has B49 on it with S98B
> below that. It's for a 75 GMC.
> --
> Mike K.
> '75 PB
> Southeast Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] keys [message #218222 is a reply to message #202284] |
Tue, 13 August 2013 18:39 |
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How about the Jim's
Howard
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On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:22, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> JJUNKSELL wrote on Tue, 13 August 2013 09:56
>> I bought a pb and it has no door key. called a gmc dealer and they said mh is too old to make a key from vin #. Called a few lock smiths and the say they cant do it. Anyone run into this problem before? thanks.
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> We have a man that makes GMC keys at the conventions,Joe E. I don't think he even covers his costs.
> Dan
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