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Aluminum Grill [message #202076] Mon, 18 March 2013 21:39 Go to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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I didn't have time to do this but I needed some metal time so I made this grill. Not sure how I like it.

Photos in this album...text here.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6328-aluminum-grill.html

Started with some 1/8" (.125) aluminum I bent into 1x1 angles. Each piece was only 4' long so I had to weld several pieces together.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0011.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0011.jpg

The corners were too thick to stretch that far so I cut them out and bent the flats to the proper shape.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0021.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0021.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0031.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0031.jpg

There was a LITTLE bit of metal shaping. The sides have a curve in them that needed to be shrunk...the big kick shrinker easily handles 1/8" aluminum....well it handles it fine...can't say the same for my knee.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0041.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0041.jpg

Here is the frame roughed in:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0051.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0051.jpg

The center pieces were also shrunk then welded to the rest. After the welding, it was metalfinished with a vixen file. The discoloration is a difference in the alloy of the welding rod (1100) and the angle (3003). The only way to avoid this is to shear thin strips of the parent metal and use this for rod. Not sure how much it will show up once the frame is 'brush finished'.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0071.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0071.jpg

The corners were welded in and metal finished also. Not completely done here:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0091.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0091.jpg

And here it is in place but not fastened down.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0101.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0101.jpg

The grill cloth is actually the woven stainless that we found at McNichols Metals during the LazyDays rally in January. The tabs will be painted black so the grill appears to float in the opening.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0121.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0121.jpg

I did a blind bolt fastening system but am not happy with it and will probably cut it off and just go with countersunk stainless.

I'm not sure I love it.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Aluminum Grill [message #202077 is a reply to message #202076] Mon, 18 March 2013 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Kerry, I need a grille. Let me visit with you at Dothan. I like what you have shown us here.
Dan


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Re: Aluminum Grill [message #202078 is a reply to message #202076] Mon, 18 March 2013 21:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Or satin black the grill mesh. Metal surround looks good bright. Should flow air better than OEM.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] Aluminum Grill [message #202097 is a reply to message #202076] Tue, 19 March 2013 06:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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Uh, Kerry, if you decide you don't like it, quote me a price.  If I can afford it, I'll take it off your hands. :)
 
--johnny
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'76 palm beach.


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From: Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com>
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Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:39 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Aluminum Grill



I didn't have time to do this but I needed some metal time so I made this grill.  Not sure how I like it.

Photos in this album...text here.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6328-aluminum-grill.html

Started with some 1/8" (.125) aluminum I bent into 1x1 angles.  Each piece was only 4' long so I had to weld several pieces together.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0011.jpg


The corners were too thick to stretch that far so I cut them out and bent the flats to the proper shape.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0021.jpg


http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0031.jpg


There was a LITTLE bit of metal shaping.  The sides have a curve in them that needed to be shrunk...the big kick shrinker easily handles 1/8" aluminum....well it handles it fine...can't say the same for my knee.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0041.jpg


Here is the frame roughed in:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0051.jpg


The center pieces were also shrunk then welded to the rest.  After the welding, it was metalfinished with a vixen file.  The discoloration is a difference in the alloy of the welding rod (1100) and the angle (3003).  The only way to avoid this is to shear thin strips of the parent metal and use this for rod.  Not sure how much it will show up once the frame is 'brush finished'.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0071.jpg


The corners were welded in and metal finished also.  Not completely done here:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0091.jpg


And here it is in place but not fastened down.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0101.jpg


The grill cloth is actually the woven stainless that we found at McNichols Metals during the LazyDays rally in January.  The tabs will be painted black so the grill appears to float in the opening.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6328/z_0121.jpg


I did a blind bolt fastening system but am not happy with it and will probably cut it off and just go with countersunk stainless.

I'm not sure I love it.
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Kerry Pinkerton

North Alabama, near Huntsville,

77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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Re: Aluminum Grill [message #202114 is a reply to message #202076] Tue, 19 March 2013 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry that surround would be a good product to sell then the buyer could install his own center. I would buy one from you I have my own center (skulls) I would like to install in mine.

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Re: Aluminum Grill [message #202117 is a reply to message #202114] Tue, 19 March 2013 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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PettyVTX wrote on Tue, 19 March 2013 08:45

Kerry that surround would be a good product to sell then the buyer could install his own center.


Like most the things I make, I'm not sure it is commercially viable. Given how long it takes I doubt many people would be willing to pay the price. I'll get some input at Dothan. I got it mounted today and like it a bit more.

I REALLY don't like the black headlight buckets but don't have time to paint them... Sad


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Aluminum Grill [message #202127 is a reply to message #202117] Tue, 19 March 2013 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How about the same thing in thinner stainless?
Re: Aluminum Grill [message #202131 is a reply to message #202127] Tue, 19 March 2013 11:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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Harry wrote on Tue, 19 March 2013 10:39

How about the same thing in thinner stainless?


Only the woven mesh in the grill is stainless. The surround is 1/8" aluminum. There really isn't a good way to stretch a radius that small in aluminum without it tearing, regardless of the thickness. Aluminum work hardens, gets brittle, and fractures when you try to take it that far.

If someone wanted to make the grill free floating and supported by something other than the frame, the frame could be made from .063 aluminum. Same problem though.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Aluminum Grill [message #202135 is a reply to message #202131] Tue, 19 March 2013 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was thinking of the frame in light guage stainless, then the welds could be sanded and polished.
Re: [GMCnet] Aluminum Grill [message #202144 is a reply to message #202135] Tue, 19 March 2013 13:33 Go to previous message
Jerry Wheeler is currently offline  Jerry Wheeler   United States
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Speaking about a grill, last week I emailed "Grillcraft" and also
"Grill4you", asking them if they could make a new grill, similar to what
Kerry has done; I told them it would be a very limited market. But I have
not heard back from either outfit. My guess is they are not interested
and didn't bother to reply.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR

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