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[GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201446] Tue, 12 March 2013 19:52 Go to next message
mjbourgon is currently offline  mjbourgon   United States
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Hi all
I have coach interior just about ready to upholster and replace the head
liner. The coach has the original vinyl headliner and I would like to
take it out and set new upholstery on the ceiling. I pulled down a bit
of the vinyl and find a kind of cardboard board underneath. If I pull
the cardboard liner what do I find under it. When I did my first coach
the ceiling had 1/4" plywood on it and I just glued the upholstery to
it. Curious, What do I find under the cardboard.
thanks
Marcel
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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201452 is a reply to message #201446] Tue, 12 March 2013 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Craig Lechowicz is currently offline  Craig Lechowicz   United States
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If the coach is still original, there will be nothing bout spray foam insulation above the cardboard. It may be missing or 1/2 depth in some places as it wasn't done very consistently.

Craig Lechowicz
'77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201490 is a reply to message #201452] Wed, 13 March 2013 04:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks
She still is original. I will take my time and pull down the head liner
cardboard and replace it with plywood
Marcel
On 3/12/2013 19:31, Craig Lechowicz wrote:
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> If the coach is still original, there will be nothing bout spray foam insulation above the cardboard. It may be missing or 1/2 depth in some places as it wasn't done very consistently.

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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201491 is a reply to message #201490] Wed, 13 March 2013 05:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Recommend coating the top side of your plywood with something to waterproof the surface.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201494 is a reply to message #201491] Wed, 13 March 2013 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mjbourgon is currently offline  mjbourgon   United States
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Good idea, I had not thought of that. Will use a good coat of Kilz or a
pigmented shellac.
Thanks for the thought
Marcel
On 3/13/2013 04:22, Thomas Phipps wrote:
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> Recommend coating the top side of your plywood with something to waterproof the surface.
> Tom, MS II

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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201506 is a reply to message #201494] Wed, 13 March 2013 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Better yet, use something totally impervious to water, like "tile board"
(Melamine coated Masonite as used for cheap shower walls). Cheap and
readily available at Lowes or Home Depot or ...

Ken H.


On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Marcel Bourgon wrote:

> Good idea, I had not thought of that. Will use a good coat of Kilz or a
> pigmented shellac.
> Thanks for the thought
> Marcel
> On 3/13/2013 04:22, Thomas Phipps wrote:
> >
> > Recommend coating the top side of your plywood with something to
> waterproof the surface.
> > Tom, MS II
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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201535 is a reply to message #201491] Wed, 13 March 2013 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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3/16 abs plastic with a pebble finish...........bulletproof!

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The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
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Recommend coating the top side of your plywood with something to waterproof
the surface.
Tom, MS II
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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201576 is a reply to message #201446] Wed, 13 March 2013 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I pulled mine I found mouse nests. Jay Rabe 76 PB Portland, OR
> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:52:26 -0600
> From: mjbourgon@earthlink.net
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner
>
> Hi all
> I have coach interior just about ready to upholster and replace the head
> liner. The coach has the original vinyl headliner and I would like to
> take it out and set new upholstery on the ceiling. I pulled down a bit
> of the vinyl and find a kind of cardboard board underneath. If I pull
> the cardboard liner what do I find under it. When I did my first coach
> the ceiling had 1/4" plywood on it and I just glued the upholstery to
> it. Curious, What do I find under the cardboard.
> thanks
> Marcel
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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201582 is a reply to message #201576] Wed, 13 March 2013 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201610 is a reply to message #201582] Wed, 13 March 2013 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Teets is currently offline  Mike Teets   United States
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Here is an FRP pictorial replacement...

http://teamteets.com/gmc/newheadliner.html

It has been 10 years and it looks exactly as installed, except for the
little girl in the pictures who is looking at colleges and drives herself
anywhere she wants to go. But she does still play soccer.

Mike, Dublin OH, 77 PB
http://teamteets.com/gmc


On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Joe Crutchfield <
joe.crutchfield@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I am using FRP (Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic) which comes in 4 x 8 sheets
> in white and bone colors and can be purchased at Lowes for about $33. per
> sheet in my area. It is impervious to water and has a pebble finish on one
> side. Others have used this and there is a lot of information in older
> threads if you would like to look some of them up.
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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201611 is a reply to message #201610] Wed, 13 March 2013 18:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mjbourgon is currently offline  mjbourgon   United States
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Pictures look great. Just finishing up cabinets in shop. Then the
headliner. These thinks become like a snow ball. Each day a new
adventure. Formica should be here tomorrow for large interior cabinets
and bathroom module outside.
No big deal, I have a full blown shop and this is very restfull.
Thanks again for all the great pictures and inputs
Marcel in a warm New Mexico
On 3/13/2013 17:17, Mike Teets wrote:
> Here is an FRP pictorial replacement...
>
> http://teamteets.com/gmc/newheadliner.html
>
> It has been 10 years and it looks exactly as installed, except for the
> little girl in the pictures who is looking at colleges and drives herself
> anywhere she wants to go. But she does still play soccer.
>
> Mike, Dublin OH, 77 PB
> http://teamteets.com/gmc
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Joe Crutchfield <
> joe.crutchfield@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I am using FRP (Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic) which comes in 4 x 8 sheets
>> in white and bone colors and can be purchased at Lowes for about $33. per
>> sheet in my area. It is impervious to water and has a pebble finish on one
>> side. Others have used this and there is a lot of information in older
>> threads if you would like to look some of them up.
>> --
>> Joe Crutchfield,
>> Watertown, TN,
>> 77 Royale by Coachman, Rear Bath, 455, 3.07,
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201613 is a reply to message #201611] Wed, 13 March 2013 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Has anyone considered something less conventional such as this?

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/royale-headliner/p29066-copy-of-n554051983-795.html


 
Howard Nylander
Royale Class of '78' - 'Rocinante'
Greeneville, Tn.   

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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201614 is a reply to message #201611] Wed, 13 March 2013 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mjbourgon wrote on Wed, 13 March 2013 18:24

....... I have a full blown shop



Eagerly looking forward to meeting you soon Laughing


UziYaH wrote on Wed, 13 March 2013 19:28

Has anyone considered something less conventional such as this?

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/royale-headliner/p29066-copy-of-n554051983-795.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5159/Copy_of_n554051983_795228_9377.jpg




Very Nice. Is that a panel or individual planks? Looks like red cedar


Valhalla - 1978 GMC Royale rear twin [SOLD]
Walküre - 1974 VW Thing (Toad)

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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201635 is a reply to message #201490] Thu, 14 March 2013 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Marcel,
Check out FRP at Home Depot before you change it out to more cardboard or
luan plywood. It is an excellent, easy to clean, choice. Plus, it looks
very nice in all the coaches I've seen it in.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Marcel Bourgon <mjbourgon@earthlink.net>wrote:

> Thanks
> She still is original. I will take my time and pull down the head liner
> cardboard and replace it with plywood
> Marcel
> On 3/12/2013 19:31, Craig Lechowicz wrote:
> >
> > If the coach is still original, there will be nothing bout spray foam
> insulation above the cardboard. It may be missing or 1/2 depth in some
> places as it wasn't done very consistently.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201637 is a reply to message #201635] Thu, 14 March 2013 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good morning Steve
I have build 60-70 Subway restaurants and I have about seen all the
white FRP I need to see. I know and appreciate what you said as did
others but enough is enough. I will go with the Luan Mahogany and cover
it with fabric. This will give me a time to run power for second a/c
unit and additional cables for television and satellite dish. All you
guys thanks for all the great ideas and I am not trying to slight any
one but I now see Subway kitchens in my dreams.
Thanks to all
Marcel in warming up new mexico
On 3/14/2013 06:51, Steven Ferguson wrote:
> Marcel,
> Check out FRP at Home Depot before you change it out to more cardboard or
> luan plywood. It is an excellent, easy to clean, choice. Plus, it looks
> very nice in all the coaches I've seen it in.
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Marcel Bourgon <mjbourgon@earthlink.net>wrote:
>
>> Thanks
>> She still is original. I will take my time and pull down the head liner
>> cardboard and replace it with plywood
>> Marcel
>> On 3/12/2013 19:31, Craig Lechowicz wrote:
>>> If the coach is still original, there will be nothing bout spray foam
>> insulation above the cardboard. It may be missing or 1/2 depth in some
>> places as it wasn't done very consistently.
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201639 is a reply to message #201637] Thu, 14 March 2013 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's how I did mine Marcel. I covered it with Boyd Rib material. Came
out so nice, it even impressed me :>)

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:13 AM, Marcel Bourgon <mjbourgon@earthlink.net>wrote:

> Good morning Steve
> I have build 60-70 Subway restaurants and I have about seen all the
> white FRP I need to see. I know and appreciate what you said as did
> others but enough is enough. I will go with the Luan Mahogany and cover
> it with fabric. This will give me a time to run power for second a/c
> unit and additional cables for television and satellite dish. All you
> guys thanks for all the great ideas and I am not trying to slight any
> one but I now see Subway kitchens in my dreams.
> Thanks to all
> Marcel in warming up new mexico
> On 3/14/2013 06:51, Steven Ferguson wrote:
> > Marcel,
> > Check out FRP at Home Depot before you change it out to more cardboard or
> > luan plywood. It is an excellent, easy to clean, choice. Plus, it looks
> > very nice in all the coaches I've seen it in.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Marcel Bourgon <mjbourgon@earthlink.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks
> >> She still is original. I will take my time and pull down the head liner
> >> cardboard and replace it with plywood
> >> Marcel
> >> On 3/12/2013 19:31, Craig Lechowicz wrote:
> >>> If the coach is still original, there will be nothing bout spray foam
> >> insulation above the cardboard. It may be missing or 1/2 depth in some
> >> places as it wasn't done very consistently.
> >>
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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201640 is a reply to message #201639] Thu, 14 March 2013 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"That's how I did mine Marcel. I covered it with Boyd Rib material. Came
out so nice, it even impressed me :>)"

Marcel,
Search the photo site for headliner and you'll get pages of photos.
Here's what I did.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-insulation/p21162-new-headliner-over-entry-door.html

George "Oh Boy DOTHAN!!!" Zhookoff
78 EL II
Atlanta
Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201641 is a reply to message #201640] Thu, 14 March 2013 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marcel,
Here's what I did.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-insulation/p21162-new-headliner-over-entry-door.html

PS check out the rest of my albums and you'll see using the old cardboard as patterns to cut new luan that is wrapped with "Pleather".

George "Oh Boy DOTHAN!!!" Zhookoff
78 EL II
Atlanta
Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201642 is a reply to message #201641] Thu, 14 March 2013 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and
here are a few
http://gmcmotorhome.info/living.html#head

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On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:29 AM, George Zhookoff <
George.Zhookoff@haskell.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> Marcel,
> Here's what I did.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-insulation/p21162-new-headliner-over-entry-door.html
>
> PS check out the rest of my albums and you'll see using the old cardboard
> as patterns to cut new luan that is wrapped with "Pleather".
>
> George "Oh Boy DOTHAN!!!" Zhookoff
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Re: [GMCnet] ceiling headliner [message #201655 is a reply to message #201635] Thu, 14 March 2013 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I still like the ABS plastic, easy to work with, no smell.

There are photos of Arch installing his as well as some pics I took on the
website.

Len and Pat Novak
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
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Marcel,
Check out FRP at Home Depot before you change it out to more cardboard or
luan plywood. It is an excellent, easy to clean, choice. Plus, it looks
very nice in all the coaches I've seen it in.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Marcel Bourgon
<mjbourgon@earthlink.net>wrote:

> Thanks
> She still is original. I will take my time and pull down the head liner
> cardboard and replace it with plywood
> Marcel
> On 3/12/2013 19:31, Craig Lechowicz wrote:
> >
> > If the coach is still original, there will be nothing bout spray foam
> insulation above the cardboard. It may be missing or 1/2 depth in some
> places as it wasn't done very consistently.
>
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