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Tue, 26 February 2013 18:54  |
kerry pinkerton
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Ok, here is the dash with all the instruments on it. They are not all the same but will do for now. Eventually, I'll get a set of good instruments and redo the whole thing.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6256/C_0071.jpg
I need to change the label for the washer to wipers. The hole to the right of the washer is where the on/off switch goes for the Henderson wipers.
Now I have to build a support structure to hold the thing in place. There is NOTHING left to mount it to.
Had to remove the gear indicator piece on the bottom of the speedo but I don't think I'll miss it. The GM 'Guess A Gear' wasn't their best work anyway.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: New instrument layout [message #200016 is a reply to message #200003] |
Tue, 26 February 2013 19:51  |
mojoe
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Kerry are all those already installed?
Joe Kemenczky..
1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles..
"When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain.
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| Re: New instrument layout [message #200020 is a reply to message #200003] |
Tue, 26 February 2013 19:57 |
Carl S.
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That looks good Kerry. I may do something like that, I need to add a few gauges. I would LOVE to do a "Mac Dash", but my winter GMC budget just went for a new 3" exhaust system (not optional).
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: New instrument layout [message #200033 is a reply to message #200016] |
Tue, 26 February 2013 20:44 |
kerry pinkerton
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| toyomojoe wrote on Tue, 26 February 2013 19:51 |
Kerry are all those already installed?
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Well, they're mounted in the dash but not installed in the coach or wired up yet. All except the Tach were previously installed in a really crappy wooden thing that was in a terrible location down to the right of the ashtray without the lights hooked up.
I'll just have to wire them in.
Everything fit but I had to trim the bottom of the speedo and factory tri-cluster in order for the 2" guages to fit below. Also had to remove the gear shift indicator.
I'd like to have a Mac Dash or Digipanel but I'm hemorrhaging money on the coach and need to be reasonable. These gauges will work fine for a while.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: New instrument layout [message #200035 is a reply to message #200033] |
Tue, 26 February 2013 20:53 |
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Looks great to me Kerry.. May have to do the same thing to mine. Not sure how many of my instruments work..I might just buy the 3-4 gauge unit for now, just to have working instruments
Joe Kemenczky..
1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles..
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| Re: New instrument layout [message #200080 is a reply to message #200036] |
Wed, 27 February 2013 08:09 |
Carl S.
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| WD0AFQ wrote on Tue, 26 February 2013 19:54 |
I heard Mac Daddy will be in Dothan. Can't wait to visit with him and his lovely bride. Great folks with great products.
Will also be Digi-Panels at Dothan. My opinion, its a good item to have. Stop by and I will let you see my digi-panel, hooked up and working, if you want, anyone.
dan
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WOW! It sounds like there will be LOTS of great vendors at GMCMI, as usual!
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] New instrument layout [message #200081 is a reply to message #200003] |
Wed, 27 February 2013 08:08 |
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Lookin good. If you'll reset the tach to "4 cyl" and put some rub - off numbers on, you'll have a 4K tach instead of wasting half the dial. I used the little Sun Pro and it works out nice. Need to add a "0" so the new numbers are symmetric.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:54 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] New instrument layout
Ok, here is the dash with all the instruments on it. They are not all the same but will do for now. Eventually, I'll get a set of good instruments and redo the whole thing.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6256/C_0071.jpg
I need to change the label for the washer to wipers. The hole to the right of the washer is where the on/off switch goes for the Henderson wipers.
Now I have to build a support structure to hold the thing in place. There is NOTHING left to mount it to.
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Kerry Pinkerton
North Alabama, near Huntsville,
77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] New instrument layout [message #200088 is a reply to message #200081] |
Wed, 27 February 2013 09:03 |
kerry pinkerton
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| Johnny Bridges wrote on Wed, 27 February 2013 08:08 |
Lookin good. If you'll reset the tach to "4 cyl" and put some rub - off numbers on, you'll have a 4K tach instead of wasting half the dial. ...
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I like that idea Johnny! Thanks
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] New instrument layout [message #200092 is a reply to message #200081] |
Wed, 27 February 2013 10:05 |
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> From: Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:54 PM
> Subject: [GMCnet] New instrument layout
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> Ok, here is the dash with all the instruments on it. They are not all the same but will do for now. Eventually, I'll get a set of good instruments and redo the whole thing.
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6256/C_0071.jpg
There's room for a couple more, Kerry.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/4935/010_Dash_2003.jpg
And you'll find that you don't need a big tach. There's a big hole in
the dash now but in the future going with the 4000rpm, 2" version.
Here's what I ended up with. Not sure if I've posted this since you've
joined the list.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/new-dash-03-08/p24758-finished.html
Yours will be sheetmetal, of course... :^)
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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| Re: New instrument layout [message #200291 is a reply to message #200003] |
Fri, 01 March 2013 19:28 |
kerry pinkerton
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Well shoot. Got everything back together and everything works but the speedo. The odometer works so it's something in the guage...gerr. Oh, well it was a few miles off anyway and my GPS is more accurate.
Now I guess my motivation to get new gauges and build a whole new dash just kicked up a notch.
I replaced my plastic oil line with plastic. My vacuum gauge line was too short to reach to the new location, so I got a new plastic kit and ran it. Unfortunately it kinked. Replaced it with copper too.
The engine temp problem is definitely solved. Pulled out all the plumbing and put the original sender in the correct position and then pulled the christmas tree and put the aftermarket gauge in there. Both now come to temp nice and quick.
I'd been fighting a few coolant leaks and knew I still had one...somewhere. Today, I happend to see a drop of water just above the hose clamp on the heater supply at the rear of the manifold. As I watched, another drop formed. A teeny tiny hole was there and under pressure it apparently leaked a good bit. It must have also let the system suck air in easier than pulling it from the overflow tank because once the hose was replaced, it would suck from the overflow tank within minutes of shutting off the engine.
Making progress.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: New instrument layout [message #200318 is a reply to message #200317] |
Sat, 02 March 2013 07:41 |
kerry pinkerton
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| Peter Bailey wrote on Sat, 02 March 2013 07:38 |
Kerry,
Is the old Temp and Oil pressure gauges still connected? They seem to be registering but obviously the engine is not running as the tacho is on zero.
Peter Bailey
from Ozy (Aussie)
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Peter, in that photo, nothing is wired up...actually sitting on a table.
All the gauges work as desired except the speedometer. I'm hopeful the upcoming trip might jar the speedo back into functionality.  
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: New instrument layout [message #200322 is a reply to message #200317] |
Sat, 02 March 2013 07:55 |
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| Peter Bailey wrote on Sat, 02 March 2013 08:38 |
Kerry,
Is the old Temp and Oil pressure gauges still connected? They seem to be registering but obviously the engine is not running as the tacho is on zero.
Peter Bailey
from Ozy (Aussie)
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Peter,
In this period, and for a long time both ways, GM used what are called "Air Core" instruments. The pointer is balanced between two electro-magnets. Both are powered by ignition, but one goes straight to ground and the other through the sender. This eliminates any need for supply voltage stabilization as was required by both Ford and Mopar instruments (same supplier).
Problem: When power is lost, the indicator will not move regardless of the situation. This plan was not held in high esteem by the general community.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: New instrument layout [message #200326 is a reply to message #200322] |
Sat, 02 March 2013 08:33 |
mojoe
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This might be a dumb question.. but gonna ask anyway. Does anyone make a replacement GM style gauge that would replace the oil/temp/gas gauge on the GMC, fit in the hole?
Joe Kemenczky..
1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles..
"When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain.
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