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RF_Burns
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FYI to all Canadians in Florida or going there. New law in FL January 1st/2013 requires all non-US drivers to have an International Driver's Licence (IDL)as well. A Canadian Driver's Licence alone is no longer accepted as a valid driver's licence in FL.
CAA offices have lineups of people waiting to the IDL before leaving for FL.
Bruce Hislop
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| Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida [message #198468 is a reply to message #198466] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 13:56  |
Dave Mumert
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Hi Bruce
So I can go to England where I need to drive on the wrong side of the road
and shift gears with my left hand and I am welcomed on their roads and can
rent their cars with my Alberta driver's license. Or go to Spain or Italy
where I cannot read the road signs and am still able to rent a car and
drive.
I have a cheap and convenient solution, don't go to Florida. I was planning
on heading to Orlando in late March but I guess Arizona or Hawaii will get
to welcome me instead.
Dave
> Subject: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida
>
> FYI to all Canadians in Florida or going there. New law in FL January
1st/2013
> requires all non-US drivers to have an International Driver's Licence
(IDL)as
> well. A Canadian Driver's Licence alone is no longer accepted as a valid
> driver's licence in FL.
>
> CAA offices have lineups of people waiting to the IDL before leaving for
FL.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida [message #198474 is a reply to message #198466] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 14:34 |
Ken Henderson
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Can you say, "We need the money from the fines."?
Next they'll be wanting us Georgians to have one. :-)
Ken H.
Americus, GA
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Bruce Hislop wrote:
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> FYI to all Canadians in Florida or going there. New law in FL January
> 1st/2013 requires all non-US drivers to have an International Driver's
> Licence (IDL)as well. A Canadian Driver's Licence alone is no longer
> accepted as a valid driver's licence in FL.
>
> CAA offices have lineups of people waiting to the IDL before leaving for
> FL.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida [message #198477 is a reply to message #198474] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 14:43 |
GMC_LES
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Just heard on our local (Montreal) news that the Florida DMV has issued a note about this. Apparently this new law does not align well with the Geneva convention so Florida has temporarily postponed implementation of the new law.
Apparently the law was aimed specifically at Quebec tourists as the Quebec permits are the only Canadian permits that are French only.
All the above is commentary I heard on the local radio.
Les Burt
Montreal
On 2013-02-14, at 3:34 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Can you say, "We need the money from the fines."?
>
> Next they'll be wanting us Georgians to have one. :-)
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
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> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Bruce Hislop wrote:
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>>
>>
>> FYI to all Canadians in Florida or going there. New law in FL January
>> 1st/2013 requires all non-US drivers to have an International Driver's
>> Licence (IDL)as well. A Canadian Driver's Licence alone is no longer
>> accepted as a valid driver's licence in FL.
>>
>> CAA offices have lineups of people waiting to the IDL before leaving for
>> FL.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida [message #198479 is a reply to message #198476] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 14:57 |
Kingsley Coach
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Bob
I'd like to point out that the US gov't required you to have the passport.
Now a State gov't is going to impose International driving
regulations...there is no connection. This isn't a small thing.
Les, I don't know where you stand on language rights, but the mandatory use
of French only signs in your province is dangerous...unless you speak and
understand French.
Rant over!
Mike in NM
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Bob Moss <fums6@aol.com> wrote:
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> Hey, I don't want to sound snippy, but the requirement to have an IDL
> sounds OK to me. I had to get a passport to get back into the US from
> Canada. The world is changing and you have to be flexible about some
> things. Don't fight the small things. And frankly, if you're Canadian,
> Florida is a nice place to be in the Winter. Also nice if you're from PA
> like me. 70 here and 39 in PA!!
> Bob Moss
> '77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida [message #198480 is a reply to message #198476] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 15:03 |
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USAussie
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Bob,
I watched a couple of news reports on the internet regarding this subject and it was not clear if it was anyone from ANY foreign
country needed an International Drivers License or JUST Canadians.
It does not make sense to single out Canadians.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
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USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moss
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida
Hey, I don't want to sound snippy, but the requirement to have an IDL sounds OK to me. I had to get a passport to get back into the
US from Canada. The world is changing and you have to be flexible about some things. Don't fight the small things. And frankly, if
you're Canadian, Florida is a nice place to be in the Winter. Also nice if you're from PA like me. 70 here and 39 in PA!!
Bob Moss
'77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida [message #198488 is a reply to message #198483] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 16:06 |
k2gkk
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Many decades ago, as a USAF member, I was advised that a person who
MIGHT have occasion to drive in other than his home country would
be well advised to get an International Driving License (IDL).
An IDL is issued by one's home country and is NOT valid in that home
country; only overseas!
Admitedly, Florida's new regulation comes without any apparent prior
notice, but it is NOT really out of line.
A Passport or Passport Card is required of US Citizens to return home
after any excursion to another country with but a few exceptions these
days.
Regardless of the verbal claptrap emanating from the US Administration,
I believe that US Law already requires non-citizens to always carry valid
identification of status and show that I.D. on request to valid authority!
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: bruce@perthcomm.com
> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:17:45 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida
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> Rob,
> Its any Non-USA driver is required to have the IDL.
>
> I got an email from Al Hamilton who has been in FL since December and only today heard about this. He is now hearing in FL that they are backing off enforcement as maybe its not such a good idea to impose this on the 3 million Canadian visitors to FL every year.
>
> Money talks when tourism walks.
> "the law is under review by Florida and the Florida Hwy Patrol has been told not to enforce the law for now. We'll have to see how much weight such organizations as the Canadian Snowbird Association and folks in Florida who make their fortune on Snowbirds have."
>
>
> --
> Bruce Hislop
> ON Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
> Hubler 1 ton front end
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
> My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
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| Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida [message #198490 is a reply to message #198488] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 16:24 |
Kingsley Coach
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I'm not certain of the connection between the US gov't demanding it's
leaving citizens have a passport to get back into their own country and the
State of Florida demanding those from outside the country having an IDL.
Perhaps you can explain this to me.
Mike in NM
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:06 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:
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> Many decades ago, as a USAF member, I was advised that a person who
> MIGHT have occasion to drive in other than his home country would
> be well advised to get an International Driving License (IDL).
>
> An IDL is issued by one's home country and is NOT valid in that home
> country; only overseas!
>
> Admitedly, Florida's new regulation comes without any apparent prior
> notice, but it is NOT really out of line.
>
> A Passport or Passport Card is required of US Citizens to return home
> after any excursion to another country with but a few exceptions these
> days.
>
> Regardless of the verbal claptrap emanating from the US Administration,
> I believe that US Law already requires non-citizens to always carry valid
> identification of status and show that I.D. on request to valid authority!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > From: bruce@perthcomm.com
> > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:17:45 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida
> >
> >
> >
> > Rob,
> > Its any Non-USA driver is required to have the IDL.
> >
> > I got an email from Al Hamilton who has been in FL since December and
> only today heard about this. He is now hearing in FL that they are backing
> off enforcement as maybe its not such a good idea to impose this on the 3
> million Canadian visitors to FL every year.
> >
> > Money talks when tourism walks.
> > "the law is under review by Florida and the Florida Hwy Patrol has been
> told not to enforce the law for now. We'll have to see how much weight such
> organizations as the Canadian Snowbird Association and folks in Florida who
> make their fortune on Snowbirds have."
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Hislop
> > ON Canada
> > 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
> > Hubler 1 ton front end
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
> > My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida [message #198492 is a reply to message #198490] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 16:37 |
tphipps
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Read "1984" and think population control. Since the IDL is "written" by a private organization, State sponsorship bothers me as a potential corruption point. State Authorities should have the legal position to require showing of official issued documents, but a private transaction between individuals without court order, I think not.
Even the paranoid have enemies. LOL
Tom, MS II
387 miles to Dothan
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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| Re: Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida [message #198495 is a reply to message #198466] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 16:57 |
kerry pinkerton
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Ain't no big thing. If you get stopped, just rattle off a few words of Spanish and throw in a few words that sound something like "Obama", "Path to Citizenship", "Illegal"
They'll escort you to the FL DMV, give you a FL drivers license, sign you up for food stamps, sign you up for a free cell phone, get you a voters registration card, and all sorts of other goodies.
  
Seriously, smarter heads will prevail. This was no doubt one of those "We won't know what's in the bill until after it is passed things". They're not that stupid.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida [message #198496 is a reply to message #198490] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 17:12 |
k2gkk
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I believe that technically, NO country has any compulsion
to recognize a driver's license issued by ANY other country.
Countries which are signatory to the compact that covers
International Driver's Licenses is, however, REQUIRED to
recognize an IDL issued by any country that is also a
signatory to the pact.
I applied for my own IDL (many years ago) at the local
office of the AAA (American Automobile Association?).
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~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:24:43 -0400
> From: kingsleygmc@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Canadian Drivers Licence not valid in Florida
>
> I'm not certain of the connection between the US gov't demanding it's
> leaving citizens have a passport to get back into their own country and the
> State of Florida demanding those from outside the country having an IDL.
> Perhaps you can explain this to me.
>
> Mike in NM
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:06 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> >
> > Many decades ago, as a USAF member, I was advised that a person who
> > MIGHT have occasion to drive in other than his home country would
> > be well advised to get an International Driving License (IDL).
> >
> > An IDL is issued by one's home country and is NOT valid in that home
> > country; only overseas!
> >
> > Admitedly, Florida's new regulation comes without any apparent prior
> > notice, but it is NOT really out of line.
> >
> > A Passport or Passport Card is required of US Citizens to return home
> > after any excursion to another country with but a few exceptions these
> > days.
> >
> > Regardless of the verbal claptrap emanating from the US Administration,
> > I believe that US Law already requires non-citizens to always carry valid
> > identification of status and show that I.D. on request to valid authority!
> >
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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