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Steering column repair [message #198223] Tue, 12 February 2013 12:21 Go to next message
C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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If anyone is going to Dothan thru Knoxville,Tn and wants their steering column repaired or updated please contact me off net.

C. Boyd
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Re: Steering column repair [message #198225 is a reply to message #198223] Tue, 12 February 2013 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I will not be there, but currently removing driver's floorboard to replace it (rot), is this a good time to tackle the lower bearing in a '73 (no tilt)?

Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
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Re: Steering column repair [message #198231 is a reply to message #198223] Tue, 12 February 2013 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Any chance you can help me with it in Dothan? I'm starting to notice some faint crunching type noises and very light sticking coming from the column when I hit a bump or turn sharply. Definitely coming from inside the column.

It doesn't seem to affect anything right now, but a little birdie named common sense tells me ignoring it now will lead to a bigger problem later!


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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: Steering column repair [message #198234 is a reply to message #198231] Tue, 12 February 2013 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chuck,
Teri and I are headed to Pigeon Forge Thursday but seems I have already been "fixed" by a super fixer upper.
Thanks,
Dan


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Re: Steering column repair [message #198240 is a reply to message #198225] Tue, 12 February 2013 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Sean - if you are doing the floors you might find pulling the steering column helpful, and once it's out it's pretty easy to get to everything. With some generous help from Mr. Boyd and others, I did mine recently, and moved the dimmer in the process.

Now, how are you tackling the floor replacement? When I pulled my column I found bad spots under the drivers window, and it did not get better as I pulled up the carpet. I am tempted to pull it all out and replace the entire front floor and engine hatch.

Jeff


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Re: Steering column repair [message #198253 is a reply to message #198225] Tue, 12 February 2013 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir: anytime the steering shaft is removed is a good time. I haven`t found one that didn`t need it.


SeanKidd wrote on Tue, 12 February 2013 13:37

I will not be there, but currently removing driver's floorboard to replace it (rot), is this a good time to tackle the lower bearing in a '73 (no tilt)?



C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
Re: Steering column repair [message #198264 is a reply to message #198234] Tue, 12 February 2013 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stop by if you can.

WD0AFQ wrote on Tue, 12 February 2013 14:44

Chuck,
Teri and I are headed to Pigeon Forge Thursday but seems I have already been "fixed" by a super fixer upper.
Thanks,
Dan



C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
Re: Steering column repair [message #198271 is a reply to message #198231] Tue, 12 February 2013 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jknezek wrote on Tue, 12 February 2013 14:04

Any chance you can help me with it in Dothan? I'm starting to notice some faint crunching type noises and very light sticking coming from the column when I hit a bump or turn sharply. Definitely coming from inside the column.

It doesn't seem to affect anything right now, but a little birdie named common sense tells me ignoring it now will lead to a bigger problem later!



C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
Re: Steering column repair [message #198272 is a reply to message #198240] Tue, 12 February 2013 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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xplorid wrote on Tue, 12 February 2013 17:05

Hi Sean - if you are doing the floors you might find pulling the steering column helpful, and once it's out it's pretty easy to get to everything. With some generous help from Mr. Boyd and others, I did mine recently, and moved the dimmer in the process.

Now, how are you tackling the floor replacement? When I pulled my column I found bad spots under the drivers window, and it did not get better as I pulled up the carpet. I am tempted to pull it all out and replace the entire front floor and engine hatch.

Jeff

The floors in the cockpit were both rotten under the windows, I rebuilt the windows an now remanufacturing the floors. I was just thinking if he floor was out I could easily gain access to do the column.


Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
Re: Steering column repair [message #198287 is a reply to message #198264] Tue, 12 February 2013 22:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chuck, how far off 40 are you? Which exit?


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Re: Steering column repair [message #198325 is a reply to message #198272] Wed, 13 February 2013 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry, one more time...are you replacing the entire platform floor, or just the rotten parts under the windows? Either way - how are you replicating the replacement flooring? I turn a wrench much better than I swing a hammer, and wish I could buy the replacement floors with the frame settings already notched in.

Jeff


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Re: Steering column repair [message #198349 is a reply to message #198272] Wed, 13 February 2013 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry Jeff,I realized I didn't answer your question...I copied: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p32617-rotten-passenger-floor.html

I laminated 2 sheets of 1/2 plywood (the kind with no voids) routed out to match old and put several coats of rustoleum bed liner on the underside befor gluing it back in the coach. The interior surface is getting duramat and some sort of carpet not yet decided. (after removing all tthe visible hardware, i used a floor jack and 2x4 and popped the glue on the old floorboard, used a heat gun to remove excess hardened glue.)

SeanKidd wrote on Tue, 12 February 2013 21:06

xplorid wrote on Tue, 12 February 2013 17:05

Hi Sean - if you are doing the floors you might find pulling the steering column helpful, and once it's out it's pretty easy to get to everything. With some generous help from Mr. Boyd and others, I did mine recently, and moved the dimmer in the process.

Now, how are you tackling the floor replacement? When I pulled my column I found bad spots under the drivers window, and it did not get better as I pulled up the carpet. I am tempted to pull it all out and replace the entire front floor and engine hatch.

Jeff

The floors in the cockpit were both rotten under the windows, I rebuilt the windows an now remanufacturing the floors. I was just thinking if he floor was out I could easily gain access to do the column.



Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
Re: Steering column repair [message #198364 is a reply to message #198349] Wed, 13 February 2013 18:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey thanks for the info and pics. Looks like one side of the floor, and I guess there are two sides plus the engine hatch? Why 2 1/2 inch fastened instead of 1 inch marine grade or treated? OBTW, never used a router before, here's my chance to visit HF again.

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Re: Steering column repair [message #198370 is a reply to message #198223] Wed, 13 February 2013 18:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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apology for hijacking steering column thread.... that was two pieces of 1/2 inch to make up the 1 inch...marine grade was difficult to find and ship. I glued the pieces making sure I rotated the grain orientation and screwed them together. im working on the driver side now. Fuel filler is a challenge, as it penetrates the floorboard as well.

Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
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I used construction adhesive, the large bolts (4) for the seat belts and i sandwich the center stringer with the seat support (6) bolts, i was very impressed with the results of the bedliner on the plywood, we used brush-on -3 coats and it's almost bulletproof. watch out for mixing metals, stainless is nice and wont corrode, but they are not very strong. be sure to use phenolic washers to prevent galvanic corrosion.

Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
Re: Steering column repair [message #198382 is a reply to message #198349] Wed, 13 February 2013 20:04 Go to previous message
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SeanKidd wrote on Wed, 13 February 2013 16:49

I laminated 2 sheets of 1/2 plywood (the kind with no voids) routed out to match old and put several coats of rustoleum bed liner on the underside before gluing it back in the coach.
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Plywood without voids in the core is called marine plywood. It is not all that unavailable, any worthwhile lumber yard can bring in whole sheets. Most of it is sold as AC. It is usually only twice the price of ABX. One inch thick will be an extra premium as it is no longer in common use.

Matt


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