Thorley Headers [message #197622] |
Wed, 06 February 2013 20:53 |
kerry pinkerton
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Have a chance to buy some gently used Thorley Headers that came off a 455. Will they fit on a 403? If not, is the problem something that can be fixed with some fabrication or movement of something else?
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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Re: [GMCnet] Thorley Headers [message #197657 is a reply to message #197622] |
Thu, 07 February 2013 06:37 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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If you can't use them, please have the seller email me off list - I'll take a set for my PB rehab if the price is right.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com>
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Subject: [GMCnet] Thorley Headers
Have a chance to buy some gently used Thorley Headers that came off a 455. Will they fit on a 403? If not, is the problem something that can be fixed with some fabrication or movement of something else?
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Kerry Pinkerton
North Alabama, near Huntsville,
77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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Re: Thorley Headers [message #197764 is a reply to message #197622] |
Fri, 08 February 2013 00:46 |
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mike miller
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Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Wed, 06 February 2013 18:53 | Have a chance to buy some gently used Thorley Headers that came off a 455. Will they fit on a 403? ...
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The way I understand it, Thorley Headers were designed using a 403 equiped motorhome as a test bed. Dougs Headers were designed on a 455.
But... either will work on the other.
(Just how I understand it... it might even be true!)
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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Re: [GMCnet] Thorley Headers [message #197775 is a reply to message #197767] |
Fri, 08 February 2013 07:33 |
C Boyd
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Rob: the 403 and the 455 MH and Toro share the same stock left exhaust manifold, the stock 403 right manifold has a kink above the oil filter cooler adapter cause the 403 is a small block and is shorter. They both have the same bolt pattern and use the same gasket. The older Thorleys were made for both till Joe and Doug got together and designed a set with thicker flanges to reduce warpage supposiedly for 455 MH but would fit both as I understand it.
Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 08 February 2013 03:54 | Mike,
Your comment fired a brain cell
IIRC while the Thorley's for a 403 will fit a 455 the exhaust ports on a 403 are smaller and therefore the flange is smaller.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Miller
Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Wed, 06 February 2013 18:53
> Have a chance to buy some gently used Thorley Headers that came off a 455. Will they fit on a 403? ...
The way I understand it, Thorley Headers were designed using a 403 equiped motorhome as a test bed. Dougs Headers were designed on
a 455.
But... either will work on the other.
(Just how I understand it... it might even be true!)
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Mike
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Re: [GMCnet] Thorley Headers [message #197917 is a reply to message #197775] |
Fri, 08 February 2013 23:49 |
jimk
Messages: 6734 Registered: July 2006 Location: Belmont, CA
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Chuck,
Now, both are almost a spiting imiage of each other, Late2012.
We stock both.
The most visaable is in the collector bung. Doug's use the perment steel
bung, thorly uses the traditional fiberous bung.
We were asked by both to show them where they should locate the O2 sensor
bung. My guys had a big laugh when they sent us identical headers for us to
mark.
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net>wrote:
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> Rob: the 403 and the 455 MH and Toro share the same stock left exhaust
> manifold, the stock 403 right manifold has a kink above the oil filter
> cooler adapter cause the 403 is a small block and is shorter. They both
> have the same bolt pattern and use the same gasket. The older Thorleys were
> made for both till Joe and Doug got together and designed a set with
> thicker flanges to reduce warpage supposiedly for 455 MH but would fit both
> as I understand it.
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> Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 08 February 2013 03:54
> > Mike,
> >
> > Your comment fired a brain cell
> >
> > IIRC while the Thorley's for a 403 will fit a 455 the exhaust ports on a
> 403 are smaller and therefore the flange is smaller.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> > Sydney, Australia
> > AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Miller
> >
> > Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Wed, 06 February 2013 18:53
> > > Have a chance to buy some gently used Thorley Headers that came off a
> 455. Will they fit on a 403? ...
> >
> > The way I understand it, Thorley Headers were designed using a 403
> equiped motorhome as a test bed. Dougs Headers were designed on
> > a 455.
> >
> > But... either will work on the other.
> >
> > (Just how I understand it... it might even be true!)
> >
> > --
> > Mike
> >
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Re: [GMCnet] Thorley Headers [message #197918 is a reply to message #197917] |
Sat, 09 February 2013 00:11 |
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USAussie
Messages: 15912 Registered: July 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Jim,
So as of late 2012 the port sizes in Doug Thorley headers and Doug's headers are the same?
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kanomata
Chuck,
Now, both are almost a spiting imiage of each other, Late2012.
We stock both.
The most visaable is in the collector bung. Doug's use the perment steel
bung, thorly uses the traditional fiberous bung.
We were asked by both to show them where they should locate the O2 sensor
bung. My guys had a big laugh when they sent us identical headers for us to
mark.
Jim
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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