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Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #196858] Wed, 30 January 2013 13:35 Go to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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I didn't know Bean Station was on a route. Of course, I'm thinking of 30 years ago when you really had to want to get there to get there. Now, with all those wider and less curvy roads the ride in and out is quite different. In fact, rather scenic and enjoyable.


Byron

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> From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
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> I'm generally in something of a quandry: What I really like to do is have
> the GPS plot the "shortest route" and follow those back roads, many with
> "no paint on them", at less than the speed limit. Frequent stops at
> interesting places and no particular schedule. SHE, on the other hand,
> likes to know where we're going and when we'll get there, preferably by the
> shortest, fastest route. Guess who usually wins? 'T'ain't gonna be that
> way when we, hopefully, leave Bean Station in early May headed west (via
> the "shortest" route).
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Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #196901 is a reply to message #196858] Wed, 30 January 2013 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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I'm still looking for those 30+ year old roads (and a lot more from back
then...). :-)

Ken H.


On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Byron Songer wrote:

> I didn't know Bean Station was on a route. Of course, I'm thinking of 30
> years ago when you really had to want to get there to get there. Now, with
> all those wider and less curvy roads the ride in and out is quite
> different. In fact, rather scenic and enjoyable.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #196944 is a reply to message #196901] Thu, 31 January 2013 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 30 January 2013 22:22

I'm still looking for those 30+ year old roads (and a lot more from back then...). Smile

Ken H.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Byron Songer wrote:

> I didn't know Bean Station was on a route. Of course, I'm thinking of 30
> years ago when you really had to want to get there to get there. Now, with
> all those wider and less curvy roads the ride in and out is quite
> different. In fact, rather scenic and enjoyable.


Ken,

There is problem with letting the electronics pick the shortest route.....
Around here there are lots roads "no longer maintained" meaning that they may have returned to nothingness (even trees growing in the middle). Or "roadway removed" or "roadway relocated" that may have been done to make way for limited access highway or airport expansion.

Lets just say this has been a problem on a few occasions.

The mapmakers don't know this and only Google maps has the capability to get the corrections from the device (your smartphone) directly - only if you choose to apprise them.

Delorme usually sends me a nice note that they got my corrections, but I won't know if they put it in until I get the next version.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #196948 is a reply to message #196858] Thu, 31 January 2013 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
carguy is currently offline  carguy   United States
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I wish I could get Garmin to stop directing folks up my driveway as a shortcut between two streets. I did write to them about this error but got no response and no correction of the error.

Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
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Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #196957 is a reply to message #196948] Thu, 31 January 2013 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Newland is currently offline  Wayne Newland   United States
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But, Bill, you have such a nice driveway.

Wayne Newland (been there) F9300 75 Palm Beach Sebastian, Fl

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I wish I could get Garmin to stop directing folks up my driveway as a
shortcut between two streets. I did write to them about this error but got
no response and no correction of the error.
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Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #196977 is a reply to message #196944] Thu, 31 January 2013 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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SHE'll sure be glad to hear y'all saying that! SHE HATES it when I follow
those paintless roads. Especially when they put us in corn fields & such.
Luckily, I haven't yet run into a tree in the middle of the road.

Personally, those little quirks are "the spice of life" for me, even when
they require me to disconnect and re-connect the toad in order to get out
of them. :-)

I'll try to avoid your driveway, Bill.

Ken H.
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On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Matt Colie wrote:

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>
> Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 30 January 2013 22:22
> > I'm still looking for those 30+ year old roads (and a lot more from
> back then...). :)
> >
> Ken,
>
> There is problem with letting the electronics pick the shortest route.....
> Around here there are lots roads "no longer maintained" meaning that they
> may have returned to nothingness (even trees growing in the middle). Or
> "roadway removed" or "roadway relocated" that may have been done to make
> way for limited access highway or airport expansion.

...
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #197032 is a reply to message #196977] Fri, 01 February 2013 05:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,
Your remarks kind of remind me of a trip from Dothan to the farm after
our last visit to the Peanut area. Bet Elaine was really thrilled
with that little adventure. <G>

Roger Black
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Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #197057 is a reply to message #196858] Fri, 01 February 2013 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I once let my phone-based navigation take me from Albuquerque to Tin Cup, CO. I was actually going up the road five or six miles beyond Tin Cup, but there's only one road to Tin Cup, and I end up on it (it saved a lot of typing). It was the first time I'd driven the area at night, and it seemed pretty unfamiliar.

I turned off the main road onto a smaller county road. Then to a smaller local road. Then the pavement ended. Then it got steeper and rockier. And steeper and rockier. And then some more.

I ended up traversing a VERY rugged Jeep trail, strewn with boulders, and skirting along a 10' wide dirt trail with a many-hundred foot drop just past my left elbow. Even better, I lost the data link in the middle, and had to guesstimate the correct direction (which - happily - I got right). Fortunately, I was in a lifted Jeep Cherokee, and was more interested in seeing where this route would take me than in backtracking the 30-40 miles necessary to take the "paved route". For anyone who is familiar with the area, I ended up going over Tin Cup Pass, and into Tin Cup "from the rear" - an option I'd previously been blissfully unaware of.

I'm just amazed that that goat trail made it into the GPS database at all (as do a lot of desert trails here in AZ).


Mark Hickey Mesa, AZ 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #197228 is a reply to message #197057] Fri, 01 February 2013 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Mark,

I just hope those goat trails are recognized by GPS as "dirt road" -- those
I DO exclude from planning, along with toll roads and, usually, interstates.

Ken H.

On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Mark wrote:

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> ...
> I'm just amazed that that goat trail made it into the GPS database at all
> (as do a lot of desert trails here in AZ).
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Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #197250 is a reply to message #197228] Sun, 03 February 2013 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Fri, 01 February 2013 17:49

Mark,

I just hope those goat trails are recognized by GPS as "dirt road" -- those I DO exclude from planning, along with toll roads and, usually, interstates.
Ken H.





I was following a Streets & Trips recommended nice 2 lane highway through an AZ Navaho Reservation up to Utah’s Mexican Hat. As the road got smaller and smaller, the map began to not follow the road (now a dirt trail), I turned on Trace just in case I needed to find my way back. Good thing, I was soon on top of solid rock with no trace of a trail at all, no sign of dirt anywhere ahead. Not much difference in the lines on the map between US Hwy 183 and the disappearing dirt road. Same thing with the dirt logging roads through the National Forests.


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Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #197266 is a reply to message #197228] Sun, 03 February 2013 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Fri, 01 February 2013 16:49

Mark,

I just hope those goat trails are recognized by GPS as "dirt road" -- those
I DO exclude from planning, along with toll roads and, usually, interstates.

I would guess they are, but I spend enough time on goat trails (on purpose) that I wouldn't want to not display them. OTOH, I do think I set up the rearview camera monitor's GPS to exclude dirt roads (just thinking about trying to take the GMC down some of the roads I travel in my Jeep makes my skin go cold...).


Mark Hickey Mesa, AZ 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #197271 is a reply to message #197266] Mon, 04 February 2013 00:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It can get pretty interesting when I take my VW Thing back into the Forest Service roads in the Olympic National Forest. Road numbers and names on the GPS don't always jive with what's on paper maps. Some roads no longer exist, some are newly made. The tracer mode has been beneficial on many occasions. After the trip I can upload my tracking history into Google Earth and compare roads that were on GPS, paper, and Google Earth. I can get a really nice elevation profile as well.


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Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #197311 is a reply to message #197250] Mon, 04 February 2013 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don A wrote on Sun, 03 February 2013 19:27

I was following a Streets & Trips recommended nice 2 lane highway through an AZ Navaho Reservation up to Utah’s Mexican Hat. As the road got smaller and smaller, the map began to not follow the road (now a dirt trail), I turned on Trace just in case I needed to find my way back. Good thing, I was soon on top of solid rock with no trace of a trail at all, no sign of dirt anywhere ahead. Not much difference in the lines on the map between US Hwy 183 and the disappearing dirt road. Same thing with the dirt logging roads through the National Forests.


Something like that happened to a out of state couple in the coast range here in Oregon. It was winter and they ended up stuck in a snowbank on a road "closed for the season." They found her, but he had tried to walk out. Not a happy story.

A GPS does not relieve you of the need for the common sense needed for driving in unfamiliar locations.... or familiar locations for that matter. Rolling Eyes



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Re: [GMCnet] Mileage chart??? [message #197321 is a reply to message #197311] Mon, 04 February 2013 11:07 Go to previous message
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Yes was a guy from google
Missed 3 turns to the coast
Went through a gate to a closed road
Burned tires to keep warm
Tried to walk down river not road
Found wife by cell triangulation

Cannot blame GPS or maps

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On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Don A wrote on Sun, 03 February 2013 19:27
>> I was following a Streets & Trips recommended nice 2 lane highway through an AZ Navaho Reservation up to Utah&#8217;s Mexican Hat. As the road got smaller and smaller, the map began to not follow the road (now a dirt trail), I turned on Trace just in case I needed to find my way back. Good thing, I was soon on top of solid rock with no trace of a trail at all, no sign of dirt anywhere ahead. Not much difference in the lines on the map between US Hwy 183 and the disappearing dirt road. Same thing with the dirt logging roads through the National Forests.
>
>
> Something like that happened to a out of state couple in the coast range here in Oregon. It was winter and they ended up stuck in a snowbank on a road "closed for the season." They found her, but he had tried to walk out. Not a happy story.
>
> A GPS does not relieve you of the need for the common sense needed for driving in unfamiliar locations.... or familiar locations for that matter. :roll:
>
>
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