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JShot is currently offline  JShot   United States
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An unscientific, probably useless bits of information, but here goes:

1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it?

2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it?

3. if not, why did you remove it?

4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it?

5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be better used for, say solar panels?

6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage?

&. other comments...


John Shotwell
Ridgeville Corners, OH
78 Royale Center Kitchen
Re: POD POLL [message #194822 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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Hi Shot: for me answer is no for all. travelin light. most of us don`t need to be on the roof.

JShot wrote on Fri, 04 January 2013 18:01

An unscientific, probably useless bits of information, but here goes:

1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it?

2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it?

3. if not, why did you remove it?

4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it?

5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be better used for, say solar panels?

6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage?

&. other comments...



C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
Re: [GMCnet] POD POLL [message #194824 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes.
Yes, original.
N/A.
N/A.
Yes, so far. Yes, would use panels. I attach existing ones to pod when parked.
No, tucked behind front a/C.

Dan in NC
1976 Eleganza II

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On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:01 PM, John Shotwell <jshot@rtecexpress.net> wrote:

>
>
> An unscientific, probably useless bits of information, but here goes:
>
> 1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it?
>
> 2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it?
>
> 3. if not, why did you remove it?
>
> 4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it?
>
> 5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be better used for, say solar panels?
>
> 6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage?
>
> &. other comments...
> --
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Re: POD POLL [message #194825 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Craig Lechowicz is currently offline  Craig Lechowicz   United States
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John,
My coach had a pod on it when I got it and I took it off for a number of reasons.

It wasn't in very good shape and needed some hinge and fiberglass repair.

I would have had to offset it to the drivers side another 3" to fit my bathroom Fantastic Fan in (side bath). It was already offset 3" to start with and I thought it would look too weird at 6" of offset.

Figured by the time I got around to fixing the hinges and fiberglass, I would be too old to want to be climbing up and down the ladder a lot.

I do hope to put solar cells up there in another year or two, and feel that would be better use of roof space.

Found a good home for it with Alan LaVoisne who is lots younger than me and has lots more stuff to carry, with a wife and young child.

Since I usually travel by myself, or with one other guy, and I haven't re-done my interior yet, I just throw everything in the back of the coach.

IWhat I have thought about for some time down the road is getting a removable soft bag type roof "pod" for times when I might need it, if the solar panels leave enough space for it. If they don't, since I don't bring a toad, one of those receiver hitch platforms with some rubbermaid tubs might be a good alternative for me, and would save the climbing up and down.


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Re: [GMCnet] POD POLL [message #194826 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:01 PM, John Shotwell <jshot@rtecexpress.net> wrote:
>
>
> An unscientific, probably useless bits of information, but here goes:
>
> 1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it?

No

> 2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it?

n/a

> 3. if not, why did you remove it?

n/a

> 4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it?

thinking about it, haven't done any significant travel yet, so not
sure if we'll need it.

> 5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be better used for, say solar panels?

n/a (but definitely want solar at some point)

> 6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage?

no idea, but I predict Gene Fisher will pop in and say you'll get 8-10
MPG with or without a pod ;)

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Re: POD POLL [message #194827 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mine came with one.

Since we're getting ready for our first trip, I expect we will overpack and use the pod for all sorts of things we really won't need but are too ignorant or chicken to leave at home. Laughing

I can't help but think it effects mileage because it's not exactly aerodynamic. Mine is off to the drivers side and I'd think it would be more aerodynamic if it was centered.

If it can be moved fairly easily, I was thinking that a front to rear fairing that smoothed the airflow of the front vent, AC, and POD would be something I'd build one of these days.


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Re: [GMCnet] POD POLL [message #194828 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:01 PM, John Shotwell wrote:

>
>
> An unscientific, probably useless bits of information, but here goes:
>
> 1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it?
Yes
>
> 2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it?
Same
>
> 3. if not, why did you remove it?
>
> 4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it?
Yes
>
> 5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be better used for, say solar panels?
I have my amplified TV antenna mounted inside the top, and carry my spare tire and lawn chairs also
>
> 6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage?
Not if you have the AC in front, as it may actually improve the aero flow
>
> &. other comments...
One can always use more storage in a GMC
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Re: [GMCnet] POD POLL [message #194830 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here's my unscientific answer:

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:01 PM, John Shotwell <jshot@rtecexpress.net> wrote:

>
>
> An unscientific, probably useless bits of information, but here goes:
>
> 1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it? Yes
>
> 2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it? Yes - same
>
> 3. if not, why did you remove it? N/A
>
> 4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it? To carry extra
> luggage
>
> 5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be
> better used for, say solar panels? - Put the Solar panels on the top of it.
>
> 6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage? I would think it has
> some negative effect.
>
> &. other comments... We did a 14,500 mile trip this past August - Sept -
> Oct. - The pod was used mainly to carry
>
extra clothes for the change in weather. We also took a Cruise during the
trip and thus the pod carried our Dress Clothes used on the cruise. Other
than that I hardly ever go into it.
Dwayne Jacobson
White rock 77 Kingsley

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Re: [GMCnet] POD POLL [message #194831 is a reply to message #194828] Fri, 04 January 2013 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Believe it or not, we dont use all of our inside storage, even when on road for 4 months. We do use our toad tho. I did not realize folks with a pod cant have the Fantastic in the bath on the wetbath models. That would be a real detriment in my book. My roof is covered with solar panels now so never will I entertain the thought of a pod. I like having the panels there and never giving one thought to a low house battery. But, many need a pod I guess. That is why they are made. So, I think the bottom line to your main question is that it just depends on the person.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] POD POLL [message #194832 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John,

Remember that I bought our GMC specifically for a trip to Alaska.

1. Yes, the 23' had a large pod and ladder to get to it

2. No, I removed the pod and ladder

3. During our 4 month trip to Alaska, I don't recall ever using anything I
was carrying in it. So, when I finally realized I was trapped in the cult,
couldn't get out nor sell the GMC, I decided to clean up the roof before
Topeka Graphics did their magic.

4. No, I still don't miss the pod. At my age, I've no business that high
off the ground on a perhaps slippery surface with no bannister around it.

5. The coach looks better without the pod; wish I could eliminate all the
other junk.

6. Certainly it cost a little mileage, but with the air conditioner
already disrupting the airflow, it's probably not practically measurable.

You got the wipers upgraded yet? That will probably save you 25% on gas
mileage (don't we wish!). :-)

Ken H.
Americus, GA
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On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:01 PM, John Shotwell wrote:

>
>
> An unscientific, probably useless bits of information, but here goes:
>
> 1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it?
>
> 2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it?
>
> 3. if not, why did you remove it?
>
> 4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it?
>
> 5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be
> better used for, say solar panels?
>
> 6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage?
>
> &. other comments...
> --
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] POD POLL [message #194834 is a reply to message #194831] Fri, 04 January 2013 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I personally don't mind the appearance. Mine has a large pod. Because I am
a vendor, I carry an ez-up and table and chairs along with a windshield
toll window cover in the pod. I can't abide the Beverly hillbilly
appearance of bikes and lawn chairs flapping in the breeze hung off the
ladder or spare tire. Except for the tidy setup that Jerry Work built for
his folding bikes. That setup looks symmetrical and does not flop in the
wind
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Jan 4, 2013 3:56 PM, "Dan Gregg" <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Believe it or not, we dont use all of our inside storage, even when on
> road for 4 months. We do use our toad tho. I did not realize folks with a
> pod cant have the Fantastic in the bath on the wetbath models. That would
> be a real detriment in my book. My roof is covered with solar panels now so
> never will I entertain the thought of a pod. I like having the panels there
> and never giving one thought to a low house battery. But, many need a pod I
> guess. That is why they are made. So, I think the bottom line to your main
> question is that it just depends on the person.
> Dan
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Re: [GMCnet] POD POLL [message #194835 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Shotwell" <jshot@rtecexpress.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 4:01 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] POD POLL


1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it? ( 23' Yes / 26' No )

2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it? ( 23' NO / 26'
Installed new one )

3. if not, why did you remove it? ( 23' Damaged original beyond repair,
installed new one same size )

4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it? ( Yes )

5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be
better used for, say solar panels? ( Use it for tools
& spare parts )

6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage? ( Not that much as it
sits bhind the roof air unit )

JADE
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Ajo, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] POD POLL [message #194836 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John,

Response in CAPS below for clarity, not shouting!

Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: John Shotwell

An unscientific, probably useless bits of information, but here goes:

Double Trouble in the USA:

1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it? - YES

2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it? - SAME ONE

3. if not, why did you remove it? N/A

4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it? - YES

5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be better used for, say solar panels? - YES

6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage? - ABSOULTELY!!!

&. other comments...

We keep spare parts, a wheeled dump tank transfer tank, souvenirs we buy along the way, other bits and pieces we don't use a lot in
the pod. As far as solar panels go we use Double Trouble to tour the USA and 99.9% of the time we're in RV parks so no need for
them.

The Blue Streak in Australia:

1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it? - NO

2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it? - N/A

3. if not, why did you remove it? N/A

4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it? - YES

5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be better used for, say solar panels? - YES

6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage? - YES, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THE ONE IN THE USA.

&. other comments...

I have yet to find a pod like the ones sold in the USA here in Australia. I intend to have one fabricated out of sheet aluminum. It
will be located just behind the front A/C unit (far enough not to interfere with the A/C's airflow) and its cross section (left to
right) will match the A/C. I will use it like the one in the USA. I will mount Solar Panels on it and the roof as well

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Re: [GMCnet] POD POLL [message #194837 is a reply to message #194831] Fri, 04 January 2013 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan,

Depending on how much "stuff" you load in the toad you could be "minimalists" and don't carry a lot of stuff you don't need. If you
didn't have the toad where would you put that "stuff?"

I've noted a problem with fitting a Fantastic Fan in the bathroom of The Blue Streak (Avion with a dry bath) as it might be
necessary to cut one of the main "hoops" that go around the body. I REALLY don't want to do that and have to see if that can be
avoided.

You can move the fan to the side but if you go too far you hit the radius of the roof. If you hit the radius of the roof you'll have
make something that will level the surface out. Possibly a "wooden standoff" that matches the curve of the roof on the outside. You
may also have to do something on the inside as well. I'm heading down the workshop after lunch and will take some photos of the
ceiling in the bathroom of The Blue Streak.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Gregg

Believe it or not, we dont use all of our inside storage, even when on road for 4 months. We do use our toad tho. I did not realize
folks with a pod cant have the Fantastic in the bath on the wetbath models. That would be a real detriment in my book. My roof is
covered with solar panels now so never will I entertain the thought of a pod. I like having the panels there and never giving one
thought to a low house battery. But, many need a pod I guess. That is why they are made. So, I think the bottom line to your main
question is that it just depends on the person.
Dan

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Re: POD POLL [message #194840 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob, we would never go on a 4 month trip without the toad. But, if we did, would use the bedroom for storing stuff I guess. We are not "campers" in the typical use of the word. That said, I dont carry many things others probably do. We are "motorhomers". If I can't have everything in the GMC that I have at home, I am not going. Comfort is what I am after. No pod for me. It must be work getting stuff in and out of the thing. I even removed the ladder.
Dan


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Re: POD POLL [message #194842 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 20:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it? yes

2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it? No

3. if not, why did you remove it? I needed the clearance to fit in my garage

4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it? n/a

5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be better used for, say solar panels? n/a

6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage? yes, as is a/c and other lumpy stuff up top

&. other comments...[/quote]
I haven't yet traveled extensively so I can't be sure if I'll be able to live without it, but the plan is to go minimalist and avoid needing lots of storage.


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Re: POD POLL [message #194844 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JShot wrote on Fri, 04 January 2013 16:01

An unscientific, probably useless bits of information, but here goes:

1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it? YES

2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it? YES

3. if not, why did you remove it? N/A

4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it? PROBABLY, NOT SURE

5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be better used for, say solar panels? I KEEP A FEW THINGS IN IT, AND HAVE MOUNTED A SOLAR PANEL ON TOP

6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage? MINIMALLY, NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT

&. other comments... I REINFORCED THE POD TO SUPPORT THE SOLAR PANEL




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Re: POD POLL [message #194845 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 20:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I will answer all the questions with one statement. I specifically looked for a coach that had NEVER had a roof pod on it. I don't think the GMC was designed to have anything on the roof and really there is plenty of space inside Wink





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Re: POD POLL [message #194852 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John,
Here you go:
1 - No
2 - N/A
3 - N/A
4 - No
5 - N/A
6 - Yes
We have low profile A/C an as clean a topside as I can get.
Matt


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SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
Re: POD POLL [message #194855 is a reply to message #194820] Fri, 04 January 2013 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
rvanwin is currently offline  rvanwin   United States
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JShot wrote on Fri, 04 January 2013 17:01

An unscientific, probably useless bits of information, but here goes:

1. did your coach have a pod on it when you bought it?

2. does it still have that pod, or a different one on it?

3. if not, why did you remove it?

4. if it never had a pod, did you/would you put one on it?

5. if you have a pod, do you really use it, or would your roof space be better used for, say solar panels?

6. do you think a pod is detrimental to gas mileage?

&. other comments...

John,

We removed the original pod and ladder when we had our coach painted last month. I don't plan on putting the pod back on. We didn't use it that much and I didn't like going up on top all that much. Jury is still out about putting the ladder back on but right now I don't plan on reinstalling. I also removed the spare tire (AAA will now be my spare). I wanted to get rid of the AC but could not find a viable alternative that worked for us. I did install a low profile AC. Does all this improve gas mileage. Don't know yet but if nothing else the reduce weight has to help a little. Might consider solar sometime but right now it is not made it's way to the top of our list. Sure like the looks of the coach with the clean top. Of course new paint doesn't hurt the looks either.


Randy & Margie
'77 Eleganza II '403'
Battlefield, MO
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