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[GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193671] Sat, 22 December 2012 09:36 Go to next message
Robin Hood is currently offline  Robin Hood   United States
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I am on my way to a heavy truck junkyard. I'm looking for 16 inch rim. How
much do new steel 16 inch rims cost? Used rims should be much cheaper, I
just want to make sure that I neither get ripped off nor insult the junk
yard guy. That is if I can even find any of the correct rims. GM 1 ton
trucks. Bowl shaped spider not truncated cone. Also want to keep an eye out
for the JC4 auxiliary vacuum pump to drive the brakes in case the engine
dies.

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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193675 is a reply to message #193671] Sat, 22 December 2012 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Robin Hood wrote on Sat, 22 December 2012 10:36

I am on my way to a heavy truck junkyard. I'm looking for 16 inch rim. How much do new steel 16 inch rims cost? Used rims should be much cheaper, I just want to make sure that I neither get ripped off nor insult the junk yard guy. That is if I can even find any of the correct rims. GM 1 ton trucks. Bowl shaped spider not truncated cone. Also want to keep an eye out for the JC4 auxiliary vacuum pump to drive the brakes in case the engine dies.
--
Robin Hood

Robin,

Southwest Wheel want 114$us+shipping (~30$ more).
I tried to never pay more than 40$ for a wheel in good condition. Most were not and needed work.

IMPORTANT: Take along something to measure the hub bore. If it is greater than 4-9/16, it will not center on the hub.

Happy Hunting

Matt


Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193677 is a reply to message #193675] Sat, 22 December 2012 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robin Hood is currently offline  Robin Hood   United States
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The good news is that they appear to have the rims that I need. I'm not
sure about the bore diameter. The bad news is that the guy wanted $60
apiece for them and brand-new ones are apparently around 120 w/shipping.

On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Matt Colie wrote:

>
>
> Robin Hood wrote on Sat, 22 December 2012 10:36
> > I am on my way to a heavy truck junkyard. I'm looking for 16 inch rim.
> How much do new steel 16 inch rims cost? Used rims should be much cheaper,
> I just want to make sure that I neither get ripped off nor insult the junk
> yard guy. That is if I can even find any of the correct rims. GM 1 ton
> trucks. Bowl shaped spider not truncated cone. Also want to keep an eye out
> for the JC4 auxiliary vacuum pump to drive the brakes in case the engine
> dies.
> > --
> > Robin Hood
>
> Robin,
>
> Southwest Wheel want 114$us+shipping (~30$ more).
> I tried to never pay more than 40$ for a wheel in good condition. Most
> were not and needed work.
>
> IMPORTANT: Take along something to measure the hub bore. If it is greater
> than 4-9/16, it will not center on the hub.
>
> Happy Hunting
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will
> find
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193679 is a reply to message #193677] Sat, 22 December 2012 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
George Zhookoff is currently offline  George Zhookoff   
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Robin,

You had better be careful! You're beginning to sound like one of the GMC List "GURUS". ;-9.

George
78 EL II
Atlanta
George Zhookoff

----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Hood [mailto:loxley@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:17 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question.

The good news is that they appear to have the rims that I need. I'm not
sure about the bore diameter. The bad news is that the guy wanted $60
apiece for them and brand-new ones are apparently around 120 w/shipping.

On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Matt Colie wrote:

>
>
> Robin Hood wrote on Sat, 22 December 2012 10:36
> > I am on my way to a heavy truck junkyard. I'm looking for 16 inch rim.
> How much do new steel 16 inch rims cost? Used rims should be much cheaper,
> I just want to make sure that I neither get ripped off nor insult the junk
> yard guy. That is if I can even find any of the correct rims. GM 1 ton
> trucks. Bowl shaped spider not truncated cone. Also want to keep an eye out
> for the JC4 auxiliary vacuum pump to drive the brakes in case the engine
> dies.
> > --
> > Robin Hood
>
> Robin,
>
> Southwest Wheel want 114$us+shipping (~30$ more).
> I tried to never pay more than 40$ for a wheel in good condition. Most
> were not and needed work.
>
> IMPORTANT: Take along something to measure the hub bore. If it is greater
> than 4-9/16, it will not center on the hub.
>
> Happy Hunting
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will
> find
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193680 is a reply to message #193679] Sat, 22 December 2012 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robin Hood is currently offline  Robin Hood   United States
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Hey Matt, what is that Southwest wheel part number for the correct steel
wheel?

George, well if one becomes a guru by messing up and learning from mistakes
then I suppose I'm well on my way. :-)

If I pay 60 for these wheels and then I have to pay to get them sandblasted
and cleaned up and possibly painted, I'm going to be rapidly pushing the
territory where just biting the bullet and paying for new is going to make
sense.

On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Zhookoff, George wrote:

> Robin,
>
> You had better be careful! You're beginning to sound like one of the GMC
> List "GURUS". ;-9.
>
> George
> 78 EL II
> Atlanta
> George Zhookoff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robin Hood [mailto:loxley@gmail.com <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:17 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org <javascript:;> <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<javascript:;>
> >
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question.
>
> The good news is that they appear to have the rims that I need. I'm not
> sure about the bore diameter. The bad news is that the guy wanted $60
> apiece for them and brand-new ones are apparently around 120 w/shipping.
>
> On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Matt Colie wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Robin Hood wrote on Sat, 22 December 2012 10:36
> > > I am on my way to a heavy truck junkyard. I'm looking for 16 inch rim.
> > How much do new steel 16 inch rims cost? Used rims should be much
> cheaper,
> > I just want to make sure that I neither get ripped off nor insult the
> junk
> > yard guy. That is if I can even find any of the correct rims. GM 1 ton
> > trucks. Bowl shaped spider not truncated cone. Also want to keep an eye
> out
> > for the JC4 auxiliary vacuum pump to drive the brakes in case the engine
> > dies.
> > > --
> > > Robin Hood
> >
> > Robin,
> >
> > Southwest Wheel want 114$us+shipping (~30$ more).
> > I tried to never pay more than 40$ for a wheel in good condition. Most
> > were not and needed work.
> >
> > IMPORTANT: Take along something to measure the hub bore. If it is
> greater
> > than 4-9/16, it will not center on the hub.
> >
> > Happy Hunting
> >
> > Matt
> > --
> > Matt & Mary Colie
> > '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you
> will
> > find
> > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
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> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193682 is a reply to message #193680] Sat, 22 December 2012 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robin Hood is currently offline  Robin Hood   United States
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Nevermind, I found it. 29857. The price dropped to about $100 each if you
buy six or seven. Shipping is about $100. My wonderful wife is arguing for
buying them right damn now. I want to wait a minute, because I don't want
to sink that much that quickly into wheels. I'd rather save up for the
purchase out over two months and then placed the order. She's also enjoying
the fact that I didn't get her anything flashy for Christmas and yet she
wants to spend all this money on my wheels so this gives her the moral
high ground. "Yes honey I got you a sense of moral superiority for
Christmas"

On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Robin Hood wrote:

> Hey Matt, what is that Southwest wheel part number for the correct steel
> wheel?
>
> George, well if one becomes a guru by messing up and learning from
> mistakes then I suppose I'm well on my way. :-)
>
> If I pay 60 for these wheels and then I have to pay to get them
> sandblasted and cleaned up and possibly painted, I'm going to be rapidly
> pushing the territory where just biting the bullet and paying for new is going
> to make sense.
>
> On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Zhookoff, George wrote:
>
>> Robin,
>>
>> You had better be careful! You're beginning to sound like one of the GMC
>> List "GURUS". ;-9.
>>
>> George
>> 78 EL II
>> Atlanta
>> George Zhookoff
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Robin Hood [mailto:loxley@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:17 AM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question.
>>
>> The good news is that they appear to have the rims that I need. I'm not
>> sure about the bore diameter. The bad news is that the guy wanted $60
>> apiece for them and brand-new ones are apparently around 120 w/shipping.
>>
>> On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Matt Colie wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Robin Hood wrote on Sat, 22 December 2012 10:36
>> > > I am on my way to a heavy truck junkyard. I'm looking for 16 inch rim.
>> > How much do new steel 16 inch rims cost? Used rims should be much
>> cheaper,
>> > I just want to make sure that I neither get ripped off nor insult the
>> junk
>> > yard guy. That is if I can even find any of the correct rims. GM 1 ton
>> > trucks. Bowl shaped spider not truncated cone. Also want to keep an eye
>> out
>> > for the JC4 auxiliary vacuum pump to drive the brakes in case the engine
>> > dies.
>> > > --
>> > > Robin Hood
>> >
>> > Robin,
>> >
>> > Southwest Wheel want 114$us+shipping (~30$ more).
>> > I tried to never pay more than 40$ for a wheel in good condition. Most
>> > were not and needed work.
>> >
>> > IMPORTANT: Take along something to measure the hub bore. If it is
>> greater
>> > than 4-9/16, it will not center on the hub.
>> >
>> > Happy Hunting
>> >
>> > Matt
>> > --
>> > Matt & Mary Colie
>> > '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you
>> will
>> > find
>> > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > GMCnet mailing list
>> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Robin Hood
>> Jackson, MS
>> 2003 Buick Lesabre
>> 1968 Pontiac Catalina
>> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome
>> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
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>
>
> --
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> Jackson, MS
> 2003 Buick Lesabre
> 1968 Pontiac Catalina
> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
>
>

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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193684 is a reply to message #193682] Sat, 22 December 2012 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GET THE WHEELS NOW!

If you don't already have new 16" tires, you can get them in
pairs and spread THAT expenditure out over several months!

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> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:48:42 -0600
> From: loxley@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question.
>
> Nevermind, I found it. 29857. The price dropped to about $100 each if you
> buy six or seven. Shipping is about $100. My wonderful wife is arguing for
> buying them right damn now. I want to wait a minute, because I don't want
> to sink that much that quickly into wheels. I'd rather save up for the
> purchase out over two months and then placed the order. She's also enjoying
> the fact that I didn't get her anything flashy for Christmas and yet she
> wants to spend all this money on my wheels so this gives her the moral
> high ground. "Yes honey I got you a sense of moral superiority for
> Christmas"
>
> --
> Robin Hood
> Jackson, MS
> 2003 Buick Lesabre
> 1968 Pontiac Catalina
> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome

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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193685 is a reply to message #193680] Sat, 22 December 2012 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Robin, I have 16" steel wheels on my 78 Royale. I have a good friend who
has a tire store. He has been around since 1965, and his shop looks like a
tire shop from that era. My kinda place. When I first got my coach it had
16.5" wheels and we could not get what I wanted in tires. That prompted the
search for suitable 16" wheels. Friend got 20 or so late model NOT METRIC
(before 1994 or so) chev or Gmc 1 ton wheels. ONLY THE FRONT WHEELS WILL
WORK. Because of the rim offset. The large center hole matches the Gmc hub
flange. I mounted bare rims on his wheel balancing machine and spun them.
Many were bent and wobbled. Some I discarded because they were not rated
for radial tires. They are stamped "radial" near the weld on the inside of
the wheel. I have a further complication in that I have larger front
calipers. Long story short. $20.00 each for rims, $15.00 ea for sandblast,
$250.00 for powder coating. Then I custom made hub extenders so I could
remain hubcentric when using spacers to clear the calipers. You know where
this ends. I just don't have to polish mag wheels. Probably costs about the
same as alcoa wheels when all is figured. But steel wheels will handle 80
psi inflation pressure. Alcoa wheels are clearly stamped max inflation
pressure 60 psi. You get to choose your poison.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Dec 22, 2012 8:29 AM, "Robin Hood" <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Matt, what is that Southwest wheel part number for the correct steel
> wheel?
>
> George, well if one becomes a guru by messing up and learning from mistakes
> then I suppose I'm well on my way. :-)
>
> If I pay 60 for these wheels and then I have to pay to get them sandblasted
> and cleaned up and possibly painted, I'm going to be rapidly pushing the
> territory where just biting the bullet and paying for new is going to make
> sense.
>
> On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Zhookoff, George wrote:
>
> > Robin,
> >
> > You had better be careful! You're beginning to sound like one of the GMC
> > List "GURUS". ;-9.
> >
> > George
> > 78 EL II
> > Atlanta
> > George Zhookoff
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Robin Hood [mailto:loxley@gmail.com <javascript:;>]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:17 AM
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org <javascript:;> <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> <javascript:;>
> > >
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question.
> >
> > The good news is that they appear to have the rims that I need. I'm not
> > sure about the bore diameter. The bad news is that the guy wanted $60
> > apiece for them and brand-new ones are apparently around 120 w/shipping.
> >
> > On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Matt Colie wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Robin Hood wrote on Sat, 22 December 2012 10:36
> > > > I am on my way to a heavy truck junkyard. I'm looking for 16 inch
> rim.
> > > How much do new steel 16 inch rims cost? Used rims should be much
> > cheaper,
> > > I just want to make sure that I neither get ripped off nor insult the
> > junk
> > > yard guy. That is if I can even find any of the correct rims. GM 1 ton
> > > trucks. Bowl shaped spider not truncated cone. Also want to keep an eye
> > out
> > > for the JC4 auxiliary vacuum pump to drive the brakes in case the
> engine
> > > dies.
> > > > --
> > > > Robin Hood
> > >
> > > Robin,
> > >
> > > Southwest Wheel want 114$us+shipping (~30$ more).
> > > I tried to never pay more than 40$ for a wheel in good condition. Most
> > > were not and needed work.
> > >
> > > IMPORTANT: Take along something to measure the hub bore. If it is
> > greater
> > > than 4-9/16, it will not center on the hub.
> > >
> > > Happy Hunting
> > >
> > > Matt
> > > --
> > > Matt & Mary Colie
> > > '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you
> > will
> > > find
> > > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Robin Hood
> > Jackson, MS
> > 2003 Buick Lesabre
> > 1968 Pontiac Catalina
> > 1978 GMC Royale motorhome
> > 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
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> Jackson, MS
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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193688 is a reply to message #193685] Sat, 22 December 2012 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Mumert   United States
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Hi All

I hope you are all prepared for a great Christmas.

The Alcoa literature shows the 160231 wheel is rated at 95psi not 60.

http://www.southwestwheel.com/pictures5/LTFitment-Screen_10-18-01.pdf

It is my understanding that the 60 psi is the maximum allowed pressure to
seat the bead, once the bead has been seated the pressure can be increased
to 95 psi.

Dave Mumert


> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question.
>
> i........... Alcoa wheels are clearly stamped max inflation pressure
> 60 psi. You get to choose your poison.
> Jim Hupy

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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193689 is a reply to message #193688] Sat, 22 December 2012 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dwayne is currently offline  Dwayne   United States
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So if that being true. Do any of u inflate to beyond 65 psi and if so what
are the results.
Merry Christmas
Dwayne Jacobson
White Rock
77 Kingsley
On 2012-12-22 9:23 AM, "Dave Mumert" <gmcnet@mumert.com> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I hope you are all prepared for a great Christmas.
>
> The Alcoa literature shows the 160231 wheel is rated at 95psi not 60.
>
> http://www.southwestwheel.com/pictures5/LTFitment-Screen_10-18-01.pdf
>
> It is my understanding that the 60 psi is the maximum allowed pressure to
> seat the bead, once the bead has been seated the pressure can be increased
> to 95 psi.
>
> Dave Mumert
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question.
> >
> > i........... Alcoa wheels are clearly stamped max inflation pressure
> > 60 psi. You get to choose your poison.
> > Jim Hupy
>
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77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193690 is a reply to message #193689] Sat, 22 December 2012 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dwayne is currently offline  Dwayne   United States
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Aside from rims, I miss Jim Hupy's cooking.
Dwayne
On 2012-12-22 9:30 AM, "Dwayne Jacobson" <dwayne@havenproperties.ca> wrote:

> So if that being true. Do any of u inflate to beyond 65 psi and if so what
> are the results.
> Merry Christmas
> Dwayne Jacobson
> White Rock
> 77 Kingsley
> On 2012-12-22 9:23 AM, "Dave Mumert" <gmcnet@mumert.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I hope you are all prepared for a great Christmas.
>>
>> The Alcoa literature shows the 160231 wheel is rated at 95psi not 60.
>>
>> http://www.southwestwheel.com/pictures5/LTFitment-Screen_10-18-01.pdf
>>
>> It is my understanding that the 60 psi is the maximum allowed pressure to
>> seat the bead, once the bead has been seated the pressure can be increased
>> to 95 psi.
>>
>> Dave Mumert
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question.
>> >
>> > i........... Alcoa wheels are clearly stamped max inflation pressure
>> > 60 psi. You get to choose your poison.
>> > Jim Hupy
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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193691 is a reply to message #193690] Sat, 22 December 2012 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin, On all of the Alcoa wheels that I have mounted and worked with that
were 16" Aluminum, The wheel has cast into a depression on the face of the
wheel near the lug nut area the Maximum inflation pressure warning of 60
psi. I looked on the Southwest wheel website referenced by Dave and
Southwest wheel information does say maximum inflation 95 psi. Believe what
you will, I guess. I am sure there is a safety factor in the cast in
warning. Dwayne, we are having Christmas at home. Judy's Dad is 95 years
old on Christmas Eve and I am fixing 7 bone beef roast, home canned green
beans with bacon, Potatoes and Carrots and Onions slow roasted with the
beef. Mushroom gravy, good mixed green salad. Plenty extra for a couple
more. You are welcome anytime.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Dwayne Jacobson
<dwayne@havenproperties.ca>wrote:

> Aside from rims, I miss Jim Hupy's cooking.
> Dwayne
> On 2012-12-22 9:30 AM, "Dwayne Jacobson" <dwayne@havenproperties.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > So if that being true. Do any of u inflate to beyond 65 psi and if so
> what
> > are the results.
> > Merry Christmas
> > Dwayne Jacobson
> > White Rock
> > 77 Kingsley
> > On 2012-12-22 9:23 AM, "Dave Mumert" <gmcnet@mumert.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All
> >>
> >> I hope you are all prepared for a great Christmas.
> >>
> >> The Alcoa literature shows the 160231 wheel is rated at 95psi not 60.
> >>
> >> http://www.southwestwheel.com/pictures5/LTFitment-Screen_10-18-01.pdf
> >>
> >> It is my understanding that the 60 psi is the maximum allowed pressure
> to
> >> seat the bead, once the bead has been seated the pressure can be
> increased
> >> to 95 psi.
> >>
> >> Dave Mumert
> >>
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question.
> >> >
> >> > i........... Alcoa wheels are clearly stamped max inflation pressure
> >> > 60 psi. You get to choose your poison.
> >> > Jim Hupy
> >>
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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193692 is a reply to message #193690] Sat, 22 December 2012 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Inflation that high results is a very stiff ride.
80 cold used to be a pressure expressed by Wes C. But, I don't know anyone who is still doing that high a pressure. I cannot imagine the poor ride on an all steel tire with pressure that high. New meaning of the word, "stiff suspension."
Tom, MS II


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Yes. That high of an inflation pressure results in a very small "contact
patch" between the tire tread and the road surface. This on wet or slick
conditions can easily result in loss of control, to say nothing of the
harsh ride. ALWAYS consult your tire manufacturers recommendations
regarding tire loading and inflation pressures. Most of the GMC coaches
that I have personally weighed with the GMCWS portable scales at rallies
would carry around 55 - 65 psi for the weight/tire combination that they
had. A few lower, and a very few higher.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Inflation that high results is a very stiff ride.
> 80 cold used to be a pressure expressed by Wes C. But, I don't know
> anyone who is still doing that high a pressure. I cannot imagine the poor
> ride on an all steel tire with pressure that high. New meaning of the
> word, "stiff suspension."
> --
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> Vicksburg, MS. 3.7 miles from I-20
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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193697 is a reply to message #193693] Sat, 22 December 2012 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My personal tire pressure setting, with poly wall radials has been 65 up front and 55 in the rear. Really need to weight the coach someday and consult a correct chart for the tire in question.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193713 is a reply to message #193691] Sat, 22 December 2012 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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James Hupy wrote on Sat, 22 December 2012 09:49

Robin, On all of the Alcoa wheels that I have mounted and worked with that were 16" Aluminum, The wheel has cast into a depression on the face of the wheel near the lug nut area the Maximum inflation pressure warning of 60 psi. ...


Sounds more like the "current" Eagle wheel rather than Alcoa.

<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1978-birchaven-rear-bath/p39875-hub-centered-eagle.html>

I understand that the latest Hub-Centered Eagles from JimK do NOT have these castings one the "outer face."



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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193740 is a reply to message #193671] Sat, 22 December 2012 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was able to find seven correct 16" rims at Desert Truck & Auto Parts in
December of 2009 for $35 a piece. I don't know if that was a high or low
but I cleaned them up and painted them and they seem to be working real
well. The only down side is that the hubcaps from the original 16.5 rims
did not fit. I had quite a search before I located these. Better luck

Bernd Hoffmann, Colorado
78 Royale 403 TZE368V101387


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Subject: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question.

I am on my way to a heavy truck junkyard. I'm looking for 16 inch rim. How
much do new steel 16 inch rims cost? Used rims should be much cheaper, I
just want to make sure that I neither get ripped off nor insult the junk
yard guy. That is if I can even find any of the correct rims. GM 1 ton
trucks. Bowl shaped spider not truncated cone. Also want to keep an eye out
for the JC4 auxiliary vacuum pump to drive the brakes in case the engine
dies.

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Jackson, MS
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1968 Pontiac Catalina
1978 GMC Royale motorhome
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193744 is a reply to message #193680] Sat, 22 December 2012 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin Hood wrote on Sat, 22 December 2012 10:29

...If I pay 60 for these wheels and then I have to pay to get them sandblasted and cleaned up and possibly painted, I'm going to be rapidly pushing the territory where just biting the bullet and paying for new is going to make sense. ...
Explain it that way to the wrecking yard guy. If you can't get him down to about $35 each, walk away.
They are worth about $4 each as scrap steel...
Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193745 is a reply to message #193740] Sat, 22 December 2012 20:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think a decorative set of fake chrome acorn nuts with satin or semigloss wheels and hubs would look cool. If you bought the Alcoa center cap with the correct lugs you could rock the gmc center logo in the Alcoa center cap withe the Alcoa lugs and fake acorn nuts. That combo with flat, satin, or even gloss black wheel coating would look pretty slick I.M.O.

Sully
77 royale
Seattle

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On Dec 22, 2012, at 6:08 PM, "Bernd Hoffmann" <berndh@peoplepc.com> wrote:

> I was able to find seven correct 16" rims at Desert Truck & Auto Parts in
> December of 2009 for $35 a piece. I don't know if that was a high or low
> but I cleaned them up and painted them and they seem to be working real
> well. The only down side is that the hubcaps from the original 16.5 rims
> did not fit. I had quite a search before I located these. Better luck
>
> Bernd Hoffmann, Colorado
> 78 Royale 403 TZE368V101387
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Robin Hood
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 8:37 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question.
>
> I am on my way to a heavy truck junkyard. I'm looking for 16 inch rim. How
> much do new steel 16 inch rims cost? Used rims should be much cheaper, I
> just want to make sure that I neither get ripped off nor insult the junk
> yard guy. That is if I can even find any of the correct rims. GM 1 ton
> trucks. Bowl shaped spider not truncated cone. Also want to keep an eye out
> for the JC4 auxiliary vacuum pump to drive the brakes in case the engine
> dies.
>
> --
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> Jackson, MS
> 2003 Buick Lesabre
> 1968 Pontiac Catalina
> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
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Re: [GMCnet] Used 16 inch rim price question. [message #193772 is a reply to message #193671] Sun, 23 December 2012 09:50 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Robin,

A few years ago I found a set of six of the correct Firestone steel 16" wheels on the Tucson Craig's list for $50.00 (for the whole set). I mentioned it on this list and was immediately contacted by Peter Bailey, from Australia. Peter had been looking for a set of these for some time because 16.5" tires are not available where he lives, aand aftermarket wheels (ie. Alcoa or Eagle) make his coach 'custom' in the eyes of the local bureaucrats, and cause the tax to go up substantially.

The guy who had the wheels lived about 35 miles west of Tucson, and I drove out there and picked them up as soon as I could make arrangements. He said his father had bought them for a motorhome some time back, never installed them, and they were taking up space in his garage ever since. Steve F. later picked them up from me and got them to someone on the coast who, in turn, shipped them to Peter.

These wheels were not in perfect condition, but peter was very happy to have them. I'm not sure what he did with them, but having them sandblasted is not the only option, although it might be the easiest. you can attack them with a wire cup brush on a grinder, and paint them for a lot less money than sand blasting and powder coating. You could always add a stainless steel trim ring to them like James H. did and have them look really good.

I just got lucky (or I should say Peter did) by finding a set of those wheels, in such good shape, in a desert location, where they didn't get all rusty. Peter gave me $100.00 to cover the cost of the wheels, my gas, and my time (nu-necessary, by the way. I was glad to help).


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