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Fri, 21 December 2012 09:01  |
Mr ERFisher
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FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS
IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE THEM
--- THEY HAVE NOT BEEN DONE--
The GMC front wheel bearings have to be , checked, lubricated, replaced,
rebuilt
- every 25K to 30K miles. All of our vendors (only) can do this
SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER
- the zerk - the Lenzi mod will get you 100K without removing the knuckles
again.
http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html#ZERK
- the final answer (forever) is the ONE TON MOD II ( 4 bolt modular
bearings, plus everything else is replaced :>)
http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html
- while there, check all your front components , bushings, ball joints, etc
good things to think about in the winter, before the summer trips
have a merry Xmas
gene
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS [message #193558 is a reply to message #193553] |
Fri, 21 December 2012 10:57  |
Jim Bounds
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I've been struggling with going new. The first filter I use when looking at mods is "does it make maintenance easier and is there value added". Forever, I have simply had remachined hubs and knuckles available, we knew what to do to make them right and have simply stayed on the narrow path. Now that we have installed a 1 ton set up I feel this mod does actually make maintenance of the coach easier. Most any mechanic will know how to service the bearing set. After the mod, ball joints are bolt in and the mod will not wear. The bearing is a bolt in pack making all the rest of machining hubs and knuckles and all that unnecessary so yea, it's pretty cool. One drawback is initial expense but just like the quad bag susyem, after closing your eyes and writting the check-- life is so much better so yea-- I think I agree with you. Still though, don;t get me involved with those other mods-- lets take it slow, I'll bite for the 1 ton-- from there
we'll go a bit slower...
Jim Bounds
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From: J A Holland <acts238bishop@yahoo.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS
~~> FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS
In 1977 we had to R & R The Front Wheel Bearings
On Our '73 Canyonlands 26 footer In Lawrenceburg
Indiana At Yelton's Truck Repair while on the road
AND
After I recently replaced my Front Wheel Bearings
with 'TIMKEN 23 Bearings' and Seals on our 1978
GMC Eleganza II
I
Now
Highly Recommend
Doing The "One Ton Conversion" ~
scroll down
to see my old bearings from the '78
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1263085258349.2035030.1266255830&type=3
~ Joe ~
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/_]*[__][] *[__|] ~ * '73 TZE063V101887 ""
O----------OO--]* ~ '78 TZE168V100234 ""
" Joe & Lavelle " ""
'sweet home alebamy'
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS [message #193567 is a reply to message #193558] |
Fri, 21 December 2012 11:14 |
Jp Benson
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Well, maybe it is the end of the world. Will JimB next be selling rear disk brakes?
PB
>________________________________
> From: Jim Bounds <gmccoop@yahoo.com>
>To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 11:57 AM
>Subject: Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS
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>I've been struggling with going new. The first filter I use when looking at mods is "does it make maintenance easier and is there value added". Forever, I have simply had remachined hubs and knuckles available, we knew what to do to make them right and have simply stayed on the narrow path. Now that we have installed a 1 ton set up I feel this mod does actually make maintenance of the coach easier. Most any mechanic will know how to service the bearing set. After the mod, ball joints are bolt in and the mod will not wear. The bearing is a bolt in pack making all the rest of machining hubs and knuckles and all that unnecessary so yea, it's pretty cool. One drawback is initial expense but just like the quad bag susyem, after closing your eyes and writting the check-- life is so much better so yea-- I think I agree with you. Still though, don;t get me involved with those other mods-- lets take it slow, I'll bite for the 1 ton-- from there
>we'll go a bit slower...
>
>Jim Bounds
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>________________________________
>From: J A Holland <acts238bishop@yahoo.com>
>To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 11:19 AM
>Subject: Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS
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> ~~> FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS
>
>
>In 1977 we had to R & R The Front Wheel Bearings
>On Our '73 Canyonlands 26 footer In Lawrenceburg
>Indiana At Yelton's Truck Repair while on the road
>AND
>After I recently replaced my Front Wheel Bearings
>with 'TIMKEN 23 Bearings' and Seals on our 1978
>GMC Eleganza II
>I
>Now
>Highly Recommend
>Doing The "One Ton Conversion" ~
>
>scroll down
>to see my old bearings from the '78
>
>https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1263085258349.2035030.1266255830&type=3
>
>~ Joe ~
>--
>/_]*[__][] *[__|] ~ * '73 TZE063V101887 ""
>O----------OO--]* ~ '78 TZE168V100234 ""
>" Joe & Lavelle " ""
>'sweet home alebamy'
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS [message #193587 is a reply to message #193570] |
Fri, 21 December 2012 13:09 |
Carl S.
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I like my 100,000 mile front bearings. (Thank you Dave Lenzi)
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS [message #193595 is a reply to message #193542] |
Fri, 21 December 2012 13:47 |
Sean
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:01 AM, gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> - the final answer (forever) is the ONE TON MOD II ( 4 bolt modular
> bearings, plus everything else is replaced :>)
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html
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> - while there, check all your front components , bushings, ball joints, etc
What's the going rate for this type of upgrade?
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS [message #193783 is a reply to message #193618] |
Sun, 23 December 2012 11:29 |
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i would like to ditto the ditto with misiiltoe,
how much and how do i get this 100 K upgrade, is it a drill bit mold you buy and drill it yourself
or do you send it in and wait for it to come back? I now have a bearing puller, i just need to get my bearings from some where
and drill this angle hole i suppose to be able to grease it up. is there another way to lubricate this and what bearings and seals
do i need to get. I get the idea that no matter what i should do, the bearings - i am not sure when they were done last, so do them anyway
so i am covered for at least 25K. any response will be a christmas present thank you
i have no wheel noise.
mickey
77 palm beach
anaheimca
On Dec 21, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Ditto!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Stouffer
>
> I like my 100,000 mile front bearings. (Thank you Dave Lenzi)
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS [message #193821 is a reply to message #193783] |
Sun, 23 December 2012 16:45 |
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Mickey,
Here you go:
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/657
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/835
I think JimK might loan you the tool for a deposit.
I would suggest you use Valvoline Synpower or Mobil 1 grease. Synpower has the advantage of containing moly, however, the down side
is you can't see any metal in the old grease when you squirt new grease in which you can do with Mobil 1.
Along with your bearing tool you will need one of the small flat tools to position the inner seal properly with the knuckle off the
vehicle:
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/778
Hmmmmmm, I wonder if the OEM 25,000 mile servicing requirement was to get fresh grease in there, clean out any dirt or water that
got in the bearings, or both? Double Trouble has zerks and this past summer I squirted fresh Mobil 1 into the bearings until I got
fresh Mobil I out. No metal or anything else. However, that's to be expected, Dave Lenzi sent me two complete hubs, knuckles, and
brakes three years ago so all I had to do was install them.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mickey Space Ship Shuttle
i would like to ditto the ditto with misiiltoe,
how much and how do i get this 100 K upgrade, is it a drill bit mold you buy and drill it yourself
or do you send it in and wait for it to come back? I now have a bearing puller, i just need to get my bearings from some where
and drill this angle hole i suppose to be able to grease it up. is there another way to lubricate this and what bearings and seals
do i need to get. I get the idea that no matter what i should do, the bearings - i am not sure when they were done last, so do them
anyway
so i am covered for at least 25K. any response will be a christmas present thank you
i have no wheel noise.
mickey
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS [message #193831 is a reply to message #193821] |
Sun, 23 December 2012 17:49 |
mickeysss
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thank you, best regards.
happy mayan holiday
mickey
77 palm beach
anaheim ca.
i will start ordering soon for the rest.
On Dec 23, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Mickey,
>
> Here you go:
>
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/657
>
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/835
>
> I think JimK might loan you the tool for a deposit.
>
> I would suggest you use Valvoline Synpower or Mobil 1 grease. Synpower has the advantage of containing moly, however, the down side
> is you can't see any metal in the old grease when you squirt new grease in which you can do with Mobil 1.
>
> Along with your bearing tool you will need one of the small flat tools to position the inner seal properly with the knuckle off the
> vehicle:
>
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/778
>
> Hmmmmmm, I wonder if the OEM 25,000 mile servicing requirement was to get fresh grease in there, clean out any dirt or water that
> got in the bearings, or both? Double Trouble has zerks and this past summer I squirted fresh Mobil 1 into the bearings until I got
> fresh Mobil I out. No metal or anything else. However, that's to be expected, Dave Lenzi sent me two complete hubs, knuckles, and
> brakes three years ago so all I had to do was install them.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mickey Space Ship Shuttle
>
> i would like to ditto the ditto with misiiltoe,
>
> how much and how do i get this 100 K upgrade, is it a drill bit mold you buy and drill it yourself
>
> or do you send it in and wait for it to come back? I now have a bearing puller, i just need to get my bearings from some where
>
> and drill this angle hole i suppose to be able to grease it up. is there another way to lubricate this and what bearings and seals
>
> do i need to get. I get the idea that no matter what i should do, the bearings - i am not sure when they were done last, so do them
> anyway
>
> so i am covered for at least 25K. any response will be a christmas present thank you
>
>
> i have no wheel noise.
>
> mickey
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS [message #193832 is a reply to message #193821] |
Sun, 23 December 2012 17:50 |
mickeysss
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can this be drilled on the gmc. without taking it apart....?
mickey
77 palm beach
anaheimca.
On Dec 23, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Mickey,
>
> Here you go:
>
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/657
>
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/835
>
> I think JimK might loan you the tool for a deposit.
>
> I would suggest you use Valvoline Synpower or Mobil 1 grease. Synpower has the advantage of containing moly, however, the down side
> is you can't see any metal in the old grease when you squirt new grease in which you can do with Mobil 1.
>
> Along with your bearing tool you will need one of the small flat tools to position the inner seal properly with the knuckle off the
> vehicle:
>
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/778
>
> Hmmmmmm, I wonder if the OEM 25,000 mile servicing requirement was to get fresh grease in there, clean out any dirt or water that
> got in the bearings, or both? Double Trouble has zerks and this past summer I squirted fresh Mobil 1 into the bearings until I got
> fresh Mobil I out. No metal or anything else. However, that's to be expected, Dave Lenzi sent me two complete hubs, knuckles, and
> brakes three years ago so all I had to do was install them.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS [message #193838 is a reply to message #193832] |
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As Napoleon said "rein impossible!"
However, to be practical the answer is no.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mickey Space Ship Shuttle
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 10:51 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT -- FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS
can this be drilled on the gmc. without taking it apart....?
mickey
77 palm beach
anaheimca.
On Dec 23, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Mickey,
>
> Here you go:
>
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/657
>
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/835
>
> I think JimK might loan you the tool for a deposit.
>
> I would suggest you use Valvoline Synpower or Mobil 1 grease. Synpower has the advantage of containing moly, however, the down
side
> is you can't see any metal in the old grease when you squirt new grease in which you can do with Mobil 1.
>
> Along with your bearing tool you will need one of the small flat tools to position the inner seal properly with the knuckle off
the
> vehicle:
>
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/778
>
> Hmmmmmm, I wonder if the OEM 25,000 mile servicing requirement was to get fresh grease in there, clean out any dirt or water that
> got in the bearings, or both? Double Trouble has zerks and this past summer I squirted fresh Mobil 1 into the bearings until I got
> fresh Mobil I out. No metal or anything else. However, that's to be expected, Dave Lenzi sent me two complete hubs, knuckles, and
> brakes three years ago so all I had to do was install them.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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