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1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193146] Mon, 17 December 2012 10:16 Go to next message
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I have a couple with hardtops in inventory. Looking around, I see mention of old VW toads here and in other forums with the Thing being listed as maybe one of the best toads overall --certainly, one of the simplest.

But those are usually old posts and not by the VW owner. What are the negatives for a Thing? Ethanol, I'm guessing?


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Re: [GMCnet] 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193148 is a reply to message #193146] Mon, 17 December 2012 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At the GMCMI in Las Vegas, 5 of us ran around from casino to casino in
MrC's Thing. They even valet parked it for us. Plenty of room for all
of us. Cheap on gas. Started every time. Only negative is I don't have
one...
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Re: [GMCnet] 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193152 is a reply to message #193146] Mon, 17 December 2012 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Go here and you will see a lot of bug-toads. Clock on toad

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On Dec 17, 2012, at 8:16 AM, RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:

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> I have a couple with hardtops in inventory. Looking around, I see mention of old VW toads here and in other forums with the Thing being listed as maybe one of the best toads overall --certainly, one of the simplest.
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> But those are usually old posts and not by the VW owner. What are the negatives for a Thing? Ethanol, I'm guessing?
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Re: [GMCnet] 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193153 is a reply to message #193152] Mon, 17 December 2012 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well here
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On Dec 17, 2012, at 8:49 AM, mr.erfisher@gmail.com wrote:

> Go here and you will see a lot of bug-toads. Clock on toad
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> FREE WIFI @ Mickey D
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> On Dec 17, 2012, at 8:16 AM, RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:
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>> I have a couple with hardtops in inventory. Looking around, I see mention of old VW toads here and in other forums with the Thing being listed as maybe one of the best toads overall --certainly, one of the simplest.
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>> But those are usually old posts and not by the VW owner. What are the negatives for a Thing? Ethanol, I'm guessing?
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Re: 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193154 is a reply to message #193146] Mon, 17 December 2012 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A classmate of mine had one back when, and it was a fun vehicle. Basically the same as other VWs of that era, though parts may be getting a bit more scarce.

The only negative I remember is that the heater/defroster did basically nothing unless you had an optional gas fired heater.


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Re: 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193159 is a reply to message #193154] Mon, 17 December 2012 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GeorgeRud wrote on Mon, 17 December 2012 11:21

The only negative I remember is that the heater/defroster did basically nothing unless you had an optional gas fired heater.


I had a 1960 bug. In the winter the ice scraper was used on the windshield a heckofa lot more on the inside than the outside.


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Re: 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193162 is a reply to message #193159] Mon, 17 December 2012 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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While living in New Hampshire, we had a Honda Z600 (google it). Used the engine heat for defrost and interior heat. Drove back from a ski area, using a propane torch to defrost the windshield. New England Winter trumped Honda heat design.
However, it would make an almost invisible toad.
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Re: 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193171 is a reply to message #193162] Mon, 17 December 2012 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My wife & I had a used VW van back in the late 70's. I drove it as a 3rd car well into the 80s. Heat/defrost is laughable ...except when you're freezing.

But, trust me on this one, my wife isn't likely to be out in a motorhome anywhere that's below 75f. So I don't see using the VW as a training toad to be a problem. If we settle in and can find time to do extended travel, then I'll pick up a Yaris or something if we hate the Thing.


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Re: 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193173 is a reply to message #193146] Mon, 17 December 2012 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We occasionally tow our '74 VW Thing. It's fun to drive and the engine air heater works fine. George and Jodell Banovich always tow their '73 Thing, I'm not sure how their gas fired heater works.

The down side, no air conditioning. We tow our Chevy Tracker w/ AC when we feel the need. The Thing at 1850 lbs tows light. The Tracker feels heavier towing than the additional 450 lbs would indicate. Both George and I have bumper mount tow bars. It gets old crawling underneath to remove the VW tow bars that attach to the front torque tube.

I have a progressive two barrel carburetor and I can't seem to keep my foot out of it so the mileage suffers. I suggest staying with the stock carb.

Another tip; make sure the engine cooling shrouds are all intact and the thermostat is operational. These are often removed thinking it will improve engine cooling; it doesn't do much and it takes too long to warm up the engine. A poor rubber engine compartment seal also affects cooling.

You will ruin the convertible top if you don't retract and fold it up correctly.

Here are FAQ's from www.thethingshop.com
Things were made from 1968 thru 1979. The last official year model was 1980. They were imported into the United States from 1973-1974.
Things have Thing-only ball joints.
The passenger-side tie rod is Thing specific.
Rear brake drums are Thing specific
Front brake backing plate is Thing specific.
Thing torsion arms (a.k.a. front trailing arms) are Thing specific.
In a pinch, Type II C/V joints will work but we DO NOT recommend it. They do not have the same travel as the proper C/V joints. We DO NOT consider them safe.


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Re: 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193176 is a reply to message #193146] Mon, 17 December 2012 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my wife says I can buy a vw thing when I turn 40. almost there! so if you have some in inventory, let me know in a couple years. then maybe I will be able to use it as the toad behind the gmc.


VW's are super light toads. and all have about the same downfall, heat and A/C. almost the same problem as the GMC.

but the thing has an advantage over most of the other VW's. you can take the top down or off. drop the windshield. and enjoy the cruise.



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Re: [GMCnet] 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193177 is a reply to message #193176] Mon, 17 December 2012 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lots here.
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my wife says I can buy a vw thing when I turn 40.  almost there!  so if you have some in inventory, let me know in a couple years.  then maybe I will be able to use it as the toad behind the gmc.


VW's are super light toads. and all have about the same downfall, heat and A/C.  almost the same problem as the GMC.   

but the thing has an advantage over most of the other VW's.  you can take the top down or off. drop the windshield.  and enjoy the cruise.


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Re: 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193190 is a reply to message #193146] Mon, 17 December 2012 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: [GMCnet] 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193208 is a reply to message #193177] Mon, 17 December 2012 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

Then there's this company:

http://www.kubelkraft.com/index.html

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Re: [GMCnet] 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #193214 is a reply to message #193190] Mon, 17 December 2012 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chuck,

I didn't know there were Roo's in TN!

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Re: [GMCnet] 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #196477 is a reply to message #193214] Fri, 25 January 2013 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I love driving my 74 Thing. In fact, I put more miles on it than my so called "daily driver" (Passat Wagon). I am looking forward to pulling it behind a GMC. The wife and I get all sorts of thumbs up, peace signs and smiles when we cruise through town.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/946844.jpg
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/946844.jpg[/img]
It's even more basic than a Beetle. No insulation, carpeting, or creature comforts. Manual worm gear steering, manual four drum brakes.

BTW,... Craigslist is OK but if you really want to compare a bunch of Things look here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/cat.php?id=15


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Re: 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #196478 is a reply to message #193146] Fri, 25 January 2013 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Many say a VW Thing is the perfect towd. Others say the Tracker/Sidekick is the better towd.

Why not combine them?

See eBay Item number: 321061690596



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Re: 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #196479 is a reply to message #196478] Fri, 25 January 2013 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike Miller wrote on Fri, 25 January 2013 20:45

Many say a VW Thing is the perfect towd. Others say the Tracker/Sidekick is the better towd.

Why not combine them?

See eBay Item number: 321061690596





Although nicely done, I thing I'd rather have one or the other. At first glance you might think you have both,...but on second look you may discover you have neither. Laughing


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Re: 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #196480 is a reply to message #193146] Fri, 25 January 2013 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Funny I was just thinking about a Thing as maybe the nearly perfect Toad (lacking only a/c). Light, easy to tow, super easy to work on and very reliable if you start with a good base and take care of it. I've owned quite a few air-cooled VW except a Thing, including a '53 Split window bug, 56 Oval ragtop, notchback sedan, dual cab pickup, Karmann Ghia and a beautiful 69 convertible that was a daily driver until I was t-boned in an L.A. intersection (drunk driver wearing sunglasses at night!) and it was no more. Also a short fling with a 356 Porsche and a pre-runner 69 Baja that went almost anywhere. Yep, a Thing is definitely on my short list.

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Re: 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #196481 is a reply to message #196480] Fri, 25 January 2013 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just make sure if you do tow a Thing, Bug, Ghia or any older style VW that you use the tow hitch that attaches to the torsion bars NOT the bumpers. Bumpers on a most older VWs are attached to the body and NOT the frame. Just some bolts to sheet metal. My rig was apparently used as a toad sometime in it's past. It has some reinforcement bars welded to the torsion tube then bolted to the bumper. This effectively ties the frame of the car to the bumpers. I sure don't want to rear end anybody with this setup.

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Re: [GMCnet] 1974 VW Thing as Toad [message #196486 is a reply to message #196481] Sat, 26 January 2013 06:46 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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lots of bugs, have become toads :>)
http://gmcmotorhome.info/toad.html#vw

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On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Richard Andis <andisnw@comcast.net> wrote:

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> Just make sure if you do tow a Thing, Bug, Ghia or any older style VW that
> you use the tow hitch that attaches to the torsion bars NOT the bumpers.
> Bumpers on a most older VWs are attached to the body and NOT the frame.
> Just some bolts to sheet metal. My rig was apparently used as a toad
> sometime in it's past. It has some reinforcement bars welded to the torsion
> tube then bolted to the bumper. This effectively ties the frame of the car
> to the bumpers. I sure don't want to rear end anybody with this setup.
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