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Mitch is currently offline  Mitch   United States
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Lots of fun riding along at Road America in class Hp
http://vimeo.com/49357431
Ya gotta be really old if you have memories of those days. Shocked


Mitch Tacoma, Wa. '80 Spitfire '03 Windstar '77 Jaguar XJ6-C X(very)'76 PB 26 "The Beast" Where it rains, always. It's wet, No sun, Gray. Go to Oregon.
Re: [GMCnet] Road America '58 [message #192857 is a reply to message #192848] Thu, 13 December 2012 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mitch,

Nice find!

Some comments:

1) Did you notice who produced the film? It was D.W. Onan and Company - Yep the same company that made the generator in our GMC's.

2) Did you notice the narrators name - Elliot Burton - any relation Ken?

3) The guy that was driving the Porsche in the opening sequence was all over the road when he came out of turns!

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Rob M.

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Lots of fun riding along at Road America in class Hp
http://vimeo.com/49357431
Ya gotta be really old if you have memories of those days. 8o
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Re: [GMCnet] Road America '58 [message #192875 is a reply to message #192857] Thu, 13 December 2012 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Notice Onan? How could I miss? Don't forget the casual reference half way through.
But it was fun watching him keep that tail happy Porsche on the road.
Did you notice the starter standing on the track and the corner workers right on track edge?


Mitch Tacoma, Wa. '80 Spitfire '03 Windstar '77 Jaguar XJ6-C X(very)'76 PB 26 "The Beast" Where it rains, always. It's wet, No sun, Gray. Go to Oregon.
Re: Road America '58 [message #192886 is a reply to message #192848] Thu, 13 December 2012 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah, yes Road America. What a great track. Have been there many times with many of my toys, but the big adventure in September 2011 for the fall vintage races was with the GMC, camping at the track. There were four GMC's present for the weekend along with a large contingent of Air Streams. Three of the teams had GMC were in the pits, at least two of them belonging to race car or team owners. Memorable. By the way we crossed on the soon to be discontinued coal fired Badger Ferry from Ludington MI to Manitowoc Wisconsin.

Michael Schultz
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Re: [GMCnet] Road America '58 [message #192891 is a reply to message #192875] Thu, 13 December 2012 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yep, them days are long gone!

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Notice Onan? How could I miss? Don't forget the casual reference half way through.
But it was fun watching him keep that tail happy Porsche on the road.
Did you notice the starter standing on the track and the corner workers right on track edge?
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Re: Road America '58 [message #192979 is a reply to message #192848] Fri, 14 December 2012 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Taking my GMC to the vintage races was one of my desires in purchasing the coach in the first place. Being able to stay at the track and take in the entire weekend is the best way to experience the races.

Thankfully, the camping prices for these races are not so bad. When I saw what RV spots were priced at for the Grand Prix at Austin, Tx this year, I figured that watching on Speed was a better option.


George Rudawsky
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Re: Road America '58 [message #192987 is a reply to message #192848] Fri, 14 December 2012 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How about that VW bus fifth wheel with trailer at 6:15. Anyone know more about that as never seen one. Wheels looked strange too. That guy driving ran a pretty lousy line from what I could see.

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Re: [GMCnet] Road America '58 [message #192995 is a reply to message #192987] Fri, 14 December 2012 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ohhhhhhh myyyyyyyy...356's just do something to me !!

When I consider I paid $200 for my first one,...... I couldn't afford to
buy the same car back today <VBG>

I think I'll dim the lights here and watch it again <g>

Mike in NS

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Re: Road America '58 [message #192997 is a reply to message #192848] Fri, 14 December 2012 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mitch wrote on Wed, 12 December 2012 23:50

Lots of fun riding along at Road America in class Hp
http://vimeo.com/49357431
Ya gotta be really old if you have memories of those days. Shocked


I didn't start playing there until '76 but it still brought up a lot of memories. Some of the names mentioned were still around in the 70's and 80's. Some still racing, others as race officials. I worked most races there between '76 and late 80's. Ramp-up of work responsibilities pretty much killed the ability to do that. LL and I were National Licensed tech inspectors. I got a kick out the tech inspections held in the county garage with the hands off brake test. That was over with by the time I got there but the stories were still around. RA is a great place.

That is were I first saw GMC motorhomes. I never thought that some dahy I would own one.


Steve Southworth
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1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
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Re: Road America '58 [message #193002 is a reply to message #192848] Fri, 14 December 2012 22:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wonder if a few coaches would want to get together at Road America for one of the races this coming year? The grounds are certainly vast enough to handle a group with no problem. They have Motorhome information on their website, and the location about one hour north of Milwaukee is pretty easy to get to.

George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
Re: Road America '58 [message #193014 is a reply to message #192848] Sat, 15 December 2012 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds like great fun. The Redman in July which can be hot and the September VSCDA. There is no electrical hook ups in the RV camp ground, as of September 2011, so the heat could be a problem if you need AC. Unless you are a team member, parking is prohibited in the pits, where the electrical can be had. So, solar or generator. sounds like a great idea for a gathering.

Michael Schultz
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Maple City, MI
Re: Road America '58 [message #193022 is a reply to message #192848] Sat, 15 December 2012 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, Road America does have 50amp electrical sites (no water or sewer hook ups however) along the main straight just south of the grandstands. Don't know prices as it varies with the event. The Brian Redman Vintage event is probably the best turnout of cars, and is usually a fun time. It can be hot, but as with all weather, you never know till you get there.

Other Motorhome areas are also available around the track, but none with electrical hook ups. They are shown on the camping map at the Road America website, and some are in more shaded areas if they're not along the straightaways. Either way, could be a fun time and a nice turnout of GMCs would be very fitting with the vintage cars!


George Rudawsky
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Re: Road America '58 [message #193039 is a reply to message #192848] Sat, 15 December 2012 20:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I stand corrected. At the September Vintage event, they only allowed camping at the carousel. In July they probably allow it in the area with the 50 amp hook up. Thanks George.

M Schultz Maple City MI
Re: [GMCnet] Road America '58 [message #193144 is a reply to message #193002] Mon, 17 December 2012 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Along those same lines, does anyone go to Road Atlanta?  I could hit the track with a slingshot from my backyard.
 
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I wonder if a few coaches would want to get together at Road America for one of the races this coming year?  The grounds are certainly vast enough to handle a group with no problem.  They have Motorhome information on their website, and the location about one hour north of Milwaukee is pretty easy to get to.
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Re: Road America '58 [message #193156 is a reply to message #192848] Mon, 17 December 2012 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice track, but terrible food compared to Road America. Also, that red clay gets into everything Smile.

George Rudawsky
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GeorgeRud wrote on Mon, 17 December 2012 11:26

Nice track, but terrible food compared to Road America. Also, that red clay gets into everything Smile.


Yeah and I got tired of looking at kudzu.


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Neither have in my estimation decent groceries... although the stuff the high rollers' enclave turns out is edible.  However, the cognoscenti are aware there are a ha;f dozen pretty good (which means to a Yankee dam' delicious) barbecue joints several killer Mexican and generic Hispanic places, and countless asian restaurants close by.  Or you can ease down to Chateau Elan and do the multi course French Thang if your pocket is up to it.  Track food is like dog show food, that's why we take the GMC.
 
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Nice track, but terrible food compared to Road America.  Also, that red clay gets into everything :).
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Re: [GMCnet] Road America '58 [message #193169 is a reply to message #193158] Mon, 17 December 2012 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You didn't really see any kudzu.  Run back down this way and I'll show you a couple of Stage Four kudzu overruns. 
 
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GeorgeRud wrote on Mon, 17 December 2012 11:26
> Nice track, but terrible food compared to Road America.  Also, that red clay gets into everything :).


Yeah and I got tired of looking at kudzu.
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Johnny Bridges wrote on Mon, 17 December 2012 12:34

You didn't really see any kudzu.  Run back down this way and I'll show you a couple of Stage Four kudzu overruns. 
 
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Well for this northern boy what I saw was disturbing. Kudzu - the plant that ate the south. When I was a kid in the 50's we really knew we were in the south when we saw Spanish moss. Now it seems to be kudzu. (Back then it was a trip, no freeways to speak of. Some stretches of 4 lane US highway, not limited access, near larger cities. Kinda fun to take some of those roads now. There is almost no traffic. One I'm thinking of is Hwy 41 through Indiana.

First trip from WI to FL, after I had my drivers license, Dad said "I'm tired, you drive". Great, I've had my license about 2 months, we're on US 45, lots of truck traffic, it's getting dark and we're just getting into the TN mountains (well back then they were mountains to me.)


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Re: [GMCnet] Road America '58 [message #193193 is a reply to message #193144] Mon, 17 December 2012 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Johnny,

I was at Road Atlanta in 1972 (holy crap, that's FORTY years ago!) and was on the back straight when Denny Hulme's McLaren M20 went
airborne. As I watched the front end lifted a bit and the next second I could see the entire underside of the car as it did a
reverse loop and landed on the track upside down. It then careened off the track heading in my direction. I took off running kinda
sideways looking back over my shoulder (I didn't want to get clobbered but wasn't going to miss the action! It came to rest about
three feet from where I had been standing as shown in the video! Fortunately as noted in the video below Denny was not hurt.

Can Am 1972 Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Er3VzwGrY

Can Am 1972 Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDwOhTS-p4Q

In my opinion the Can Am series with no limitations or restrictions produced the most unbelievable race vehicle in history; the
Porsche 917/10, 20 & 30! Years later I visited the Porsche museum in Zuffenhausen, Germany. One of the engines that went in those
vehicles was on display. It was an exploded model and the crankshaft was amazing.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic/422/Porsche-917-30_22.html

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic/422/Porsche-917-30_23.html

It was constructed using individual splined shafts and throws that were pressed together. Can you imagine the tolerances that had
to be maintained when machining those splines? At 3:47 minutes into the video below you can see how long (front to rear) the 12
cylinder boxer was. I'm guessing it was between 4-5 feet long!

If you got a few bucks to spare you could buy this beauty in August.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmxELw16fPE

Then there's this MONSTER!

http://www.supercars.net/cars/2858.html

http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewCarPic=y&source=carGal&carID=2858&pgID=1&pID=1013699

Regards,
Rob M.

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Along those same lines, does anyone go to Road Atlanta?  I could hit the track with a slingshot from my backyard.
 
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