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Phantom2 is currently offline  Phantom2   United States
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any one know where i can get a GM screwdriver? you know the one for all the screws these coaches are put together with.

Larry Hopkins 75 Avion Springfield, IL
Re: [GMCnet] screw driver [message #192392 is a reply to message #192391] Thu, 06 December 2012 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do you mean the screwdriver made out of unobtainium? Which screw size and shape do you need it for?

JR
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Re: [GMCnet] screw driver [message #192393 is a reply to message #192392] Thu, 06 December 2012 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think he means the clutch head type screwdrivers... only used on GM
trucks and our GMCs, as well as trailers and RVs Back In The Day. Used
in the cabinetry. Obsolete from what I gather, often available only as
a bit to go in a driver. NAPA can allegedly order them. Big box and
Harborfreight stores dont sell enough to make their shelf space worth
it, but a local hardware store might. Online may be the best bet.

(Tom Phipps told me about them yesterday.)

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:59 PM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
> Do you mean the screwdriver made out of unobtainium? Which screw size and shape do you need it for?
>
> JR
> On Dec 6, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Larry <larry_hopkins660@msn.com> wrote:
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>> any one know where i can get a GM screwdriver? you know the one for all the screws these coaches are put together with.
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Re: screw driver [message #192394 is a reply to message #192391] Thu, 06 December 2012 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Phantom2 wrote on Thu, 06 December 2012 13:43

any one know where i can get a GM screwdriver? you know the one for all the screws these coaches are put together with.

Amazon has them as a set
http://www.amazon.com/Piece-Clutch-Head-Screw-Driver/dp/B007ZS38PO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354826689&sr=8-1&keywords=clutch+head+screwdriv er
I have a Sears set but I see they don't have them anymore. I must be getting old, my tools are antiques.


Wally Anderson
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Re: screw driver [message #192395 is a reply to message #192391] Thu, 06 December 2012 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,
I don't know what a GM screwdriver is but many drill bit kits and tool kits available at HD, HF, Costco, Sears, and most auto parts stores include include an assortment of screw driver bits--phillips, flat, torx, angled square tips.

I haven't found any screws in my previous 1975 Avion 23 or my 76 Palm Beach that I couldn't find a bit for in one of my inexpensive drill bit kits.


Gene Barrow
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Re: [GMCnet] screw driver [message #192396 is a reply to message #192393] Thu, 06 December 2012 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Many places have the screw drivers with the interchangeable tips and they
usually come with a square one.

By the way, I've replace as many of those screws as I could just to get away
from having to look for the tip. Sometimes a small Phillips works in them if
it's the right size.

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I think he means the clutch head type screwdrivers... only used on GM
trucks and our GMCs, as well as trailers and RVs Back In The Day. Used
in the cabinetry. Obsolete from what I gather, often available only as
a bit to go in a driver. NAPA can allegedly order them. Big box and
Harborfreight stores dont sell enough to make their shelf space worth
it, but a local hardware store might. Online may be the best bet.

(Tom Phipps told me about them yesterday.)

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:59 PM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
> Do you mean the screwdriver made out of unobtainium? Which screw size and
>shape do you need it for?
>
> JR
> On Dec 6, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Larry <larry_hopkins660@msn.com> wrote:
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>>
>> any one know where i can get a GM screwdriver? you know the one for all the
>>screws these coaches are put together with.
>> --
>> Larry Hopkins
>> 75 Avion
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Re: [GMCnet] screw driver [message #192400 is a reply to message #192391] Thu, 06 December 2012 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,

I've got two Avions and I had never seen the kind of screws they are put together before. I didn't know what they were called and it
took awhile before I found them at McMaster-Carr.

Click on the link below and enter "clutch-head screwdriver bits" in the search box.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#

These are good quality bits that will last if you are a bit careful to make sure they are fully engaged when you try to remove or
install one of the screws.

Regards,
Rob M.


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any one know where i can get a GM screwdriver? you know the one for all the screws these coaches are put together with.
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Re: [GMCnet] screw driver [message #192406 is a reply to message #192391] Thu, 06 December 2012 16:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You are probably referring to a clutch screw which has a hole with rounded sides and a curve in the top and bottom.

Try Ace Hardware. If you can't find a screwdriver they should have bits that fit into the end of a driver that uses bits.

I suggest square screws instead of Phillips ones for replacements.


Emery Stora
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Frederick, NM

On Dec 6, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Larry <larry_hopkins660@msn.com> wrote:

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Re: [GMCnet] screw driver [message #192445 is a reply to message #192392] Fri, 07 December 2012 02:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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unobtainium



is this a real word?

mickey

very scientific.

I must add this to my lexicon

77 palm beach

anaheim ca. disneyland next door. has fake snow.



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> unobtainium

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Re: [GMCnet] screw driver [message #192446 is a reply to message #192445] Fri, 07 December 2012 02:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mickey,
See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium

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> mickey
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> very scientific.
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> 77 palm beach
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> anaheim ca. disneyland next door. has fake snow.
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Re: [GMCnet] screw driver [message #192448 is a reply to message #192446] Fri, 07 December 2012 04:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I thought it was made up in avatar movie. love this word

have an unobtainium holiday eveyrone.

mickey

77 palm beach

anaheimca/




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> Mickey,
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium
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> JR Wright
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>> unobtainium
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>> is this a real word?
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>> mickey
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>> very scientific.
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>> 77 palm beach
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>> anaheim ca. disneyland next door. has fake snow.
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Re: [GMCnet] screw driver [message #192453 is a reply to message #192406] Fri, 07 December 2012 06:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very early in my boat work, I kept running into Posi-drive, Clutch head, Robertson (lots of boats are made in Canada), and Torx on some passcar based engine junk.
So,
Every year I buy another 100 piece bit set from Harbinger Fright. By the end of a good season, it is worth my while to get a new one. (Always on sale for ~9$us.) In the mean time, I can probably loosen anything I come across. Yes, they are junk (metalurgicly speaking) but they can also get lost overboard and not involve cardiac issues.

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Re: [GMCnet] screw driver [message #192460 is a reply to message #192453] Fri, 07 December 2012 06:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt,

When I was a technician in the Air Force and dropped a tool the normal quip from anyone nearby is "good thing you don't work on
seaplanes!"

Regards,
Rob M.

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From: Matt Colie

Very early in my boat work, I kept running into Posi-drive, Clutch head, Robertson (lots of boats are made in Canada), and Torx on
some passcar based engine junk.
So,
Every year I buy another 100 piece bit set from Harbinger Fright. By the end of a good season, it is worth my while to get a new
one. (Always on sale for ~9$us.) In the mean time, I can probably loosen anything I come across. Yes, they are junk (metalurgicly
speaking) but they can also get lost overboard and not involve cardiac issues.

Matt

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Re: [GMCnet] screw driver [message #192470 is a reply to message #192391] Fri, 07 December 2012 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought a kit some years ago from Homer the Despot which was tips to put in a magnetic screwdriver holder.  It has about a hundred tips including the ones in the GMC.  I think it was like maybe $15.  It even has 'security'  bits for Torx and hex.
 
--johnny
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any one know where i can get a GM screwdriver? you know the one for all the screws these coaches are put together with.
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Re: screw driver [message #192574 is a reply to message #192391] Sat, 08 December 2012 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks guys, I found a set that had the bits I need at Harbor Freight. First time I had ever seen a set with the C
"clutch" bits.Had to get a set of 100 for three. I am still using # 2 &3 phillips bits I had when I retired from the Air National Guard in 1989
Larry


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Re: screw driver [message #192589 is a reply to message #192574] Sat, 08 December 2012 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lots of vendors for clutch bit screwdriver sets on Amazon. If your Avion cabinets are attached to the ceiling through the upper door frame, you will need a 1/4" clutch bit screwdriver. A bit attachment will be too large a diameter to fit in the hole, where the clutch screw hides. Seems there was a design change, because John R's Avion has a mounting strip attached to the back of the door frame that carries the load.
NAPA has closed out the clutch bit screwdriver, but you may find them.
NAPA part numbers; M-134, 135, 136, and 137 would be a complete set. M-134 is the smallest of the set and most common in the GMC. M-136, M-137 probably are not used in the GMC, these are pretty big. I don't have the M-134 unfortunately. Stanley part number is 1019-3/16 for one size, probably very obsolete. NAPA M-135 is same size as Stanley, so must be 3/16.
I don't recommend using drywall screws as substitutes.
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Re: [GMCnet] screw driver [message #192691 is a reply to message #192589] Sat, 08 December 2012 23:21 Go to previous message
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Tom,

I don't understand the bit about the door, there aren't any cabinets on the door.

"If your Avion cabinets are attached to the ceiling through the upper door frame, you will need a 1/4" clutch bit screwdriver. A
bit attachment will be too large a diameter to fit in the hole, where the clutch screw hides. Seems there was a design change,
because John R's Avion has a mounting strip attached to the back of the door frame that carries the load."

I'm at home so I can't go look at The Blue Streak but AFAIK the hanging cabinets are attached with a screw horizontally through the
deepest part of the cabinet into the extrusion above the windows and vertically through the part into a square tube pop riveted in
between two sections of the aluminum body frame.

Regards,
Rob M.


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From: Thomas Phipps

Lots of vendors for clutch bit screwdriver sets on Amazon. If your Avion cabinets are attached to the ceiling through the upper
door frame, you will need a 1/4" clutch bit screwdriver. A bit attachment will be too large a diameter to fit in the hole, where
the clutch screw hides. Seems there was a design change, because John R's Avion has a mounting strip attached to the back of the
door frame that carries the load.
NAPA has closed out the clutch bit screwdriver, but you may find them.
NAPA part numbers; M-134, 135, 136, and 137 would be a complete set. M-134 is the smallest of the set and most common in the GMC.
M-136, M-137 probably are not used in the GMC, these are pretty big. I don't have the M-134 unfortunately. Stanley part number is
1019-3/16 for one size, probably very obsolete. NAPA M-135 is same size as Stanley, so must be 3/16.
I don't recommend using drywall screws as substitutes.
Tom, MS II

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