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Tank monitors not reading correctly [message #192207] Tue, 04 December 2012 12:36 Go to next message
bronevaya is currently offline  bronevaya   United States
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/p294boxtocwhfyr/2012-12-02%2014.53.58.jpg

as far as I can tell the only thing that reads correctly is the volts, everything else is off. There isnt any water in the system (if there is the water pump is broken), the outside lp tank reads empty but monitor reads full.

also there is something missing from the bottom right where those two red wires are.


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Re: [GMCnet] Tank monitors not reading correctly [message #192208 is a reply to message #192207] Tue, 04 December 2012 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Similar issues here...

The volts always worked

The LP always reads full on the panel as well as the tank........even when empty

The black water tank always reads full.....suspect a bad or frozen float, I have a replacement just have not installed it yet.

The fresh water indicator worked right after Muguel installed a new transmitter when I had the coach in for repairs about a year ago. Before that.......full all the time.

It is an adventure...........


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> as far as I can tell the only thing that reads correctly is the volts, everything else is off. There isnt any water in the system (if there is the water pump is broken), the outside lp tank reads empty but monitor reads full.
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> also there is something missing from the bottom right where those two red wires are.
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Len and Pat Novak 1978 GMC Kingsley The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see! Las Vegas, NV new email: B52sRule@Gmail.com http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375 www.bdub.net/novak/
Re: [GMCnet] Tank monitors not reading correctly [message #192220 is a reply to message #192208] Tue, 04 December 2012 15:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Len,

Should you ever decide to remove the gauge in the LPG tank be advised that the o-ring that seals is special, it has a square cross
section.

A round cross section o-ring will probably work but it would be better to get the right o-ring before you remove the gauge.

I discovered this last year when I had it out for refinishing.

Unfortunately I can't remember where I got the correct seal.

Regards,
Rob M.

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From: b52rule@roadrunner.com

Similar issues here...

The volts always worked

The LP always reads full on the panel as well as the tank........even when empty

The black water tank always reads full.....suspect a bad or frozen float, I have a replacement just have not installed it yet.

The fresh water indicator worked right after Muguel installed a new transmitter when I had the coach in for repairs about a year
ago. Before that.......full all the time.

It is an adventure...........

Cheers,
--
Len and Pat


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Re: [GMCnet] Tank monitors not reading correctly [message #192354 is a reply to message #192220] Thu, 06 December 2012 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Len Novak is currently offline  Len Novak   United States
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Thanks! I need to start looking as that is the next project.

Len and Pat Novak
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
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Len,

Should you ever decide to remove the gauge in the LPG tank be advised that
the o-ring that seals is special, it has a square cross
section.

A round cross section o-ring will probably work but it would be better to
get the right o-ring before you remove the gauge.

I discovered this last year when I had it out for refinishing.

Unfortunately I can't remember where I got the correct seal.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: b52rule@roadrunner.com

Similar issues here...

The volts always worked

The LP always reads full on the panel as well as the tank........even when
empty

The black water tank always reads full.....suspect a bad or frozen float, I
have a replacement just have not installed it yet.

The fresh water indicator worked right after Muguel installed a new
transmitter when I had the coach in for repairs about a year
ago. Before that.......full all the time.

It is an adventure...........

Cheers,
--
Len and Pat


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Re: Tank monitors not reading correctly [message #192360 is a reply to message #192207] Thu, 06 December 2012 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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bronevaya wrote on Tue, 04 December 2012 13:36

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p294boxtocwhfyr/2012-12-02%2014.53.58.jpg

as far as I can tell the only thing that reads correctly is the volts, everything else is off. There isnt any water in the system (if there is the water pump is broken), the outside lp tank reads empty but monitor reads full.

also there is something missing from the bottom right where those two red wires are.

Michael,

This is a constant issue with old GM gauges. Back in ancient times, they decided to make the instruments:
A - Air Core,
B - Low resistance at low reading.

Air core is not a real bad idea, they are somewhat more expensive and less reliable that the Introl thermal, but they do respond faster. Problem, they also hold the reading when they lose power. This would not be bad, but if the circuit supplying a critical instrument dies, you may not know about it until it is too late.

Low resistance for low reading I tend to think of a S-brain stupid. For temperature, this may not be bad (a broken connection reports hot), but for lube oil pressure or fuel quantity it is a killer.

So, if a gauge is reporting high, it is probably a bad connection. The trick then is finding it. If the gauge reports low, you either have a bad gauge (not uncommon) or the sense lead is shorted to ground along the way. This can be a bear to locate.

I don't see the switch that powers up the panel, maybe that is what is missing. Remember, they read where they were last when not powered.

Matt


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Re: Tank monitors not reading correctly [message #192374 is a reply to message #192360] Thu, 06 December 2012 10:05 Go to previous message
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All of my guages worked when I got our coach. Then the day before our first trip out west I saw something blue floating in the tank, through the toilet hole. Took Teri and me 2 hours to float that out. Did not want it to hit the maserator. It was the float. Who needs it when you have an "eye shot" through the hole? Jim K. sells them and they are a simple fix. Same for the fresh water tank.
Dan


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