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| Bogie Bushing Reaming: [message #192023] |
Sun, 02 December 2012 22:11  |
noi
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Greetings:
As I have not seen/found many pictures on the forum with regards to bogie bushing reaming, I thought I would share my experiences from last weekend!
But first…. A very big THANK YOU to JimK for extending to me the use of his shop and expertise, which greatly assisted me in successfully completing this task – It is this kind of vendor support that gave/gives me confidence to tackle a GMC restoration project – Thank You JimK!
The bogie reaming project was both easier and harder to do than I thought it would be!
First, the easier part:
I was reluctant to do the bogie reaming job as I viewed it as being a “free hand” machining process and I am not very good at “free handing” type work – If I can’t chuck it up/micrometer measure it/dial indicator cut it…. Well let’s just say what I am working on will do the job, but it is nothing I would want others to see!
But as I said, it was very easy to ream the bogies bushings “free hand” as JimK’s reamer had a very nice pilot bar lead-in which lined everything up:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46670-taper-ream.html
Here is the bogie arm secured in a very large vice with the taper reamer set in and ready to start:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46671-start.html
About half way done:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46672-half-way.html
Getting close to being finished:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46673-getting-close.html
Now an “issue” came up – As the reamer no longer had enough bushing to engage, as it was nearly done, it would no longer advance and would just spin – JimK suggested we put some weight on it to help it advance – So we came up with this solution that worked for us.
Just make sure the person doing the “pushing” uses a smallish piece of wood block and is very careful to keep themselves centered and not slip off – Don’t ask how SHE found out the hard way with a too large piece and got off center/slipped on the first attempt! – Of course, I “paid” for that mistake later 
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46674-near-done.html
And job is done:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46675-done.html
Second, the hard part:
To paraphrase Neo from The Matrix movie… We need turns – LOTS of turns!!!! – I was very surprised at how many turns/time it took to do one arm – If you’re a spring chicken, you could probably do all four arms in a day eaisely – But if your closer to crock pot chicken, as I am, two arms a day is more like it – I did three before I was “done in” and would have been better off just doing two.
But overall, it was a fairly easy job to do and one I would (hopefully not though) not be hesitant to do again.
Carl P.
76 Birchaven
South of Fremont
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bogie Bushing Reaming: [message #192030 is a reply to message #192023] |
Sun, 02 December 2012 23:30  |
Mr ERFisher
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what a nice tutorial
I decided to try and save it as a file some of the "smart devices" can
read easily
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/how-to-make-curved-pvc-valences/p46680-bogie-bushing-reaming.html
hope you do not mind, I will be pointing to it
gene
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM, noi <v76_Birchaven@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Greetings:
>
> As I have not seen/found many pictures on the forum with regards to bogie
> bushing reaming, I thought I would share my experiences from last weekend!
>
> But first…. A very big THANK YOU to JimK for extending to me the use of
> his shop and expertise, which greatly assisted me in successfully
> completing this task – It is this kind of vendor support that gave/gives me
> confidence to tackle a GMC restoration project – Thank You JimK!
>
> The bogie reaming project was both easier and harder to do than I thought
> it would be!
>
> First, the easier part:
>
> I was reluctant to do the bogie reaming job as I viewed it as being a
> “free hand” machining process and I am not very good at “free handing” type
> work – If I can’t chuck it up/micrometer measure it/dial indicator cut it….
> Well let’s just say what I am working on will do the job, but it is nothing
> I would want others to see!
>
> But as I said, it was very easy to ream the bogies bushings “free hand” as
> JimK’s reamer had a very nice pilot bar lead-in which lined everything up:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46670-taper-ream.html
>
> Here is the bogie arm secured in a very large vice with the taper reamer
> set in and ready to start:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46671-start.html
>
> About half way done:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46672-half-way.html
>
> Getting close to being finished:
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46673-getting-close.html
>
> Now an “issue” came up – As the reamer no longer had enough bushing to
> engage, as it was nearly done, it would no longer advance and would just
> spin – JimK suggested we put some weight on it to help it advance – So we
> came up with this solution that worked for us.
>
> Just make sure the person doing the “pushing” uses a smallish piece of
> wood block and is very careful to keep themselves centered and not slip off
> – Don’t ask how SHE found out the hard way with a too large piece and got
> off center/slipped on the first attempt! – Of course, I “paid” for that
> mistake later :roll:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46674-near-done.html
>
> And job is done:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46675-done.html
>
> Second, the hard part:
>
> To paraphrase Neo from The Matrix movie… We need turns – LOTS of turns!!!!
> – I was very surprised at how many turns/time it took to do one arm – If
> you’re a spring chicken, you could probably do all four arms in a day
> eaisely – But if your closer to crock pot chicken, as I am, two arms a day
> is more like it – I did three before I was “done in” and would have been
> better off just doing two.
>
> But overall, it was a fairly easy job to do and one I would (hopefully not
> though) not be hesitant to do again.
>
> Carl P.
> 76 Birchaven
> South of Fremont
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bogie Bushing Reaming: [message #192041 is a reply to message #192030] |
Mon, 03 December 2012 07:31 |
Kingsley Coach
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Thank you gene and thank you Carl.
Mike in NS
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:30 AM, gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> what a nice tutorial
>
> I decided to try and save it as a file some of the "smart devices" can
> read easily
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/how-to-make-curved-pvc-valences/p46680-bogie-bushing-reaming.html
>
> hope you do not mind, I will be pointing to it
>
> gene
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM, noi <v76_Birchaven@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Greetings:
> >
> > As I have not seen/found many pictures on the forum with regards to bogie
> > bushing reaming, I thought I would share my experiences from last
> weekend!
> >
> > But first…. A very big THANK YOU to JimK for extending to me the use of
> > his shop and expertise, which greatly assisted me in successfully
> > completing this task – It is this kind of vendor support that gave/gives
> me
> > confidence to tackle a GMC restoration project – Thank You JimK!
> >
> > The bogie reaming project was both easier and harder to do than I thought
> > it would be!
> >
> > First, the easier part:
> >
> > I was reluctant to do the bogie reaming job as I viewed it as being a
> > “free hand” machining process and I am not very good at “free handing”
> type
> > work – If I can’t chuck it up/micrometer measure it/dial indicator cut
> it….
> > Well let’s just say what I am working on will do the job, but it is
> nothing
> > I would want others to see!
> >
> > But as I said, it was very easy to ream the bogies bushings “free hand”
> as
> > JimK’s reamer had a very nice pilot bar lead-in which lined everything
> up:
> >
> >
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46670-taper-ream.html
> >
> > Here is the bogie arm secured in a very large vice with the taper reamer
> > set in and ready to start:
> >
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46671-start.html
> >
> > About half way done:
> >
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46672-half-way.html
> >
> > Getting close to being finished:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46673-getting-close.html
> >
> > Now an “issue” came up – As the reamer no longer had enough bushing to
> > engage, as it was nearly done, it would no longer advance and would just
> > spin – JimK suggested we put some weight on it to help it advance – So we
> > came up with this solution that worked for us.
> >
> > Just make sure the person doing the “pushing” uses a smallish piece of
> > wood block and is very careful to keep themselves centered and not slip
> off
> > – Don’t ask how SHE found out the hard way with a too large piece and got
> > off center/slipped on the first attempt! – Of course, I “paid” for that
> > mistake later :roll:
> >
> >
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46674-near-done.html
> >
> > And job is done:
> >
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46675-done.html
> >
> > Second, the hard part:
> >
> > To paraphrase Neo from The Matrix movie… We need turns – LOTS of
> turns!!!!
> > – I was very surprised at how many turns/time it took to do one arm – If
> > you’re a spring chicken, you could probably do all four arms in a day
> > eaisely – But if your closer to crock pot chicken, as I am, two arms a
> day
> > is more like it – I did three before I was “done in” and would have been
> > better off just doing two.
> >
> > But overall, it was a fairly easy job to do and one I would (hopefully
> not
> > though) not be hesitant to do again.
> >
> > Carl P.
> > 76 Birchaven
> > South of Fremont
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bogie Bushing Reaming: [message #192080 is a reply to message #192064] |
Mon, 03 December 2012 13:32 |
Ken Henderson
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Carl,
I couldn't tell from the photos: Is the diameter of that reamer adjustable
or fixed? I have a brand new fixed-diameter one and am wondering how I'd
set the clearance if I ever used it -- hone the bushings with another tool,
or grind the pins? Or???. Since the one I have has no pilot, I'd have to
put it in a mill to maintain alignment -- I KNOW that because the reamer
Jim Bounds loaned me in '98 wasn't piloted either. After reaming each of
the pairs of bushings in the arm individually, the pin would go through
either pair but not both. They eventually did, but with too little
clearance in spots. :-(
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 12:30 PM, noi wrote:
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> Gene – No problem - And if it helps/inspires someone else to do it…. Cool!
>
> Carl P.
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| Re: Bogie Bushing Reaming: [message #192151 is a reply to message #192023] |
Mon, 03 December 2012 20:45 |
noi
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Ahamilto:
Even if JimK had offered an air ratchet, I would have turned it down - I try to use power hand tools as little as possible – I find I get into more “trouble” faster with them, as without them – LoL 
Ken:
The reamer is fixed – And made as follows:
Pilot bar, part I have my hand on, that is approximately same diameter as the pre-reamed installed bushings and long enough to go all the way through with the cutters just making contact.
Followed by four segments - Three segments of increasing diameter cutters – And last segment “slightly” more than diameter of the pin.
The ratchet end could have been a bit longer to keep the socket from going into the bore though – But that wasn’t a big problem as the socket, surprisingly, was the same diameter as the finished reaming diameter – Just would have made it a bit easier to see how deep it was just before the ream came out the bottom.
I understand your issue about a no pilot bar reamer only being able to do one side at a time and the attendant problems that caused – That was my initial fear about reaming out the bushings, but the pilot bar made it very simple to do.
I did have to hone the bushing out a “little” before I could get the pin all the way through – I probably could have “forced” it through, but I am always reluctant to do that – After a very light hone job I was able to just “tap” the pin in:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46692-honed-pin-inserted.html
After I spun the pin around a few times and pulled it out, there were still a few small “high spots”, but noting worth hitting it with the hone again.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46693-high-spots.html
Hope that clears things up a bit.
Carl P.
76 Birchaven
South of Fremont
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bogie Bushing Reaming: [message #192165 is a reply to message #192151] |
Tue, 04 December 2012 01:33 |
jimk
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We use to have 4 of the 1 1/2" fixed reamers. but they managed to go out
and never return.
We now force all to leave a refundable deposit of $400 before we send it
out as a loaner to a customer.
We only have one 1 1/2" fixed reamer left and few 1 1/4" available.
I will be purchasing another 1 1/2" fixed reamer soon, but they want $500
for one.
There are lot of inexpensive expandable reamers, and we fave several, but
refuse to use them as thy do not do too well.
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM, noi <v76_Birchaven@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ahamilto:
>
> Even if JimK had offered an air ratchet, I would have turned it down - I
> try to use power hand tools as little as possible – I find I get into more
> “trouble” faster with them, as without them – LoL :d
>
> Ken:
>
> The reamer is fixed – And made as follows:
>
> Pilot bar, part I have my hand on, that is approximately same diameter as
> the pre-reamed installed bushings and long enough to go all the way through
> with the cutters just making contact.
>
> Followed by four segments - Three segments of increasing diameter cutters
> – And last segment “slightly” more than diameter of the pin.
>
> The ratchet end could have been a bit longer to keep the socket from going
> into the bore though – But that wasn’t a big problem as the socket,
> surprisingly, was the same diameter as the finished reaming diameter – Just
> would have made it a bit easier to see how deep it was just before the ream
> came out the bottom.
>
> I understand your issue about a no pilot bar reamer only being able to do
> one side at a time and the attendant problems that caused – That was my
> initial fear about reaming out the bushings, but the pilot bar made it very
> simple to do.
>
> I did have to hone the bushing out a “little” before I could get the pin
> all the way through – I probably could have “forced” it through, but I am
> always reluctant to do that – After a very light hone job I was able to
> just “tap” the pin in:
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46692-honed-pin-inserted.html
>
> After I spun the pin around a few times and pulled it out, there were
> still a few small “high spots”, but noting worth hitting it with the hone
> again.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-restoration/p46693-high-spots.html
>
> Hope that clears things up a bit.
>
> Carl P.
> 76 Birchaven
> South of Fremont
> _______________________________________________
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