| [GMCnet] Hi-Temperature Crankshaft Seal [message #189893] |
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USAussie
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G'day,
I thought Roy Keen's message deserved to be replied to with an apropos subject line.
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of roy@gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 6:01 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Dino Oil Break Down Temperature
Keep in mind the stock crank shaft seal is only rated to 250 degrees much higher and you will end up with a leaky seal. Which is why
I used a higher temperature rated seal and an external oil cooler in series with the cooler in the Aluminum radiator.
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Roy Keen
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There is a high temp seal available:
Manufacturer: Chicago Rawhide / SKF
Part Number: 19923
I bought two from:
Kaman Direct
Website: http://www.KamanDirect.com
Tel: 888-235-3550
Cost: $15.89 each
DOWNSIDE: They charged me $30.00 S&H to ship it from one side of Houston to the other!
Regards,
Rob M.
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hi-Temperature Crankshaft Seal [message #189909 is a reply to message #189893] |
Sun, 11 November 2012 18:12  |
gbarrow2
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Rob,
Even with the shipping you're still ahead. Toll roads over and back plus the fuel while sitting in Houston traffic may have cost more.
Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hi-Temperature Crankshaft Seal [message #189914 is a reply to message #189893] |
Sun, 11 November 2012 18:54 |
roy1
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 11 November 2012 14:15 |
G'day,
I thought Roy Keen's message deserved to be replied to with an apropos subject line.
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of roy@gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 6:01 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Dino Oil Break Down Temperature
Keep in mind the stock crank shaft seal is only rated to 250 degrees much higher and you will end up with a leaky seal. Which is why
I used a higher temperature rated seal and an external oil cooler in series with the cooler in the Aluminum radiator.
--
Roy Keen
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There is a high temp seal available:
Manufacturer: Chicago Rawhide / SKF
Part Number: 19923
I bought two from:
Kaman Direct
Website: http://www.KamanDirect.com
Tel: 888-235-3550
Cost: $15.89 each
DOWNSIDE: They charged me $30.00 S&H to ship it from one side of Houston to the other!
Regards,
Rob M.
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Roy Keen
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hi-Temperature Crankshaft Seal [message #189915 is a reply to message #189893] |
Sun, 11 November 2012 18:56 |
roy1
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 11 November 2012 14:15 |
G'day,
I thought Roy Keen's message deserved to be replied to with an apropos subject line.
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-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of roy@gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 6:01 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Dino Oil Break Down Temperature
Keep in mind the stock crank shaft seal is only rated to 250 degrees much higher and you will end up with a leaky seal. Which is why
I used a higher temperature rated seal and an external oil cooler in series with the cooler in the Aluminum radiator.
--
Roy Keen
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There is a high temp seal available:
Manufacturer: Chicago Rawhide / SKF
Part Number: 19923
I bought two from:
Kaman Direct
Website: http://www.KamanDirect.com
Tel: 888-235-3550
Cost: $15.89 each
DOWNSIDE: They charged me $30.00 S&H to ship it from one side of Houston to the other!
Regards,
Rob M.
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Roy Keen
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hi-Temperature Crankshaft Seal [message #189918 is a reply to message #189893] |
Sun, 11 November 2012 20:01 |
roy1
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Gee Rob I guess I was lucky SKF had a special going when I got mine the shipping was free clear across the country. Most Napa sells SKF so they should be able to special order the seal. Does the olds seal fit the Cadillac too? Anyone towing or residing in a warm part of the country should take the time to use this seal when replacing an engine or a leaky seal. My National seal was leaking badly with only 2000 miles on a fresh rebuild.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hi-Temperature Crankshaft Seal [message #189979 is a reply to message #189927] |
Mon, 12 November 2012 11:36 |
roy1
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Doug when my front seal was leaking badly my rear 460ford seal was leaking a little.It has since stopped leaking. If I were putting in a rear ford seal I would research it and use a high temperature seal if it was available. Summit has high temp seals for Some engines.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hi-Temperature Crankshaft Seal [message #190202 is a reply to message #189918] |
Tue, 13 November 2012 18:24 |
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Roy,
Does the Olds seal fit the Caddy 500?
Nope.
Here's a link to the Caddy 500 seal:
https://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=257599&cc=1025862
Oil Seal; Nitrile Seal, Clockwise-Spiral Lip Design, Shaft Size=2.125", Housing Bore=2.878, Outer Diameter=2.884, Width=0.437in
Here's a link to the Olds 455 seal:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=255767&cc=1225729
Spec: Oil Seal; Nitrile Seal, Shaft Size=2", Housing Bore=2.88, Outer Diameter=2.884, Width=0.375in
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: roy@gmcnet.org
Gee Rob I guess I was lucky SKF had a special going when I got mine the shipping was free clear across the country. Most Napa sells
SKF so they should be able to special order the seal. Does the olds seal fit the Cadillac too? Anyone towing or residing in a warm
part of the country should take the time to use this seal when replacing an engine or a leaky seal. My National seal was leaking
badly with only 2000 miles on a fresh rebuild.
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Roy
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hi-Temperature Crankshaft Seal [message #190216 is a reply to message #189893] |
Tue, 13 November 2012 19:32 |
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 11 November 2012 16:15 |
G'day,...There is a high temp seal available:
Manufacturer: Chicago Rawhide / SKF
Part Number: 19923
I bought two from:
Kaman Direct
Website: http://www.KamanDirect.com
Tel: 888-235-3550
Cost: $15.89 each
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Rob, is this a 'sneaky Pete' type of seal? In other words, can it be replaced without pulling the engine or dropping a main? My front seal is leaking on the 'new' coach and while it isn't leaking enough to drip on the driveway, the bottom of the oil pan and surrounding area is pretty well oiled. Replacing the seal is definitely on the list of things to do.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hi-Temperature Crankshaft Seal [message #190223 is a reply to message #190216] |
Tue, 13 November 2012 20:50 |
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USAussie
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Kerry,
Yes, see Maintenance Manual X-7525 Page 6A-50 FRONT COVER OIL SEAL
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: Kerry Pinkerton
Rob, is this a 'sneaky Pete' type of seal? In other words, can it be replaced without pulling the engine or dropping a main? My
front seal is leaking on the 'new' coach and while it isn't leaking enough to drip on the driveway, the bottom of the oil pan and
surrounding area is pretty well oiled. Replacing the seal is definitely on the list of things to do.
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Kerry
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hi-Temperature Crankshaft Seal [message #190224 is a reply to message #190216] |
Tue, 13 November 2012 21:00 |
roy1
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| Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Tue, 13 November 2012 17:32 |
| Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 11 November 2012 16:15 |
G'day,...There is a high temp seal available:
Manufacturer: Chicago Rawhide / SKF
Part Number: 19923
I bought two from:
Kaman Direct
Website: http://www.KamanDirect.com
Tel: 888-235-3550
Cost: $15.89 each
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Rob, is this a 'sneaky Pete' type of seal? In other words, can it be replaced without pulling the engine or dropping a main? My front seal is leaking on the 'new' coach and while it isn't leaking enough to drip on the driveway, the bottom of the oil pan and surrounding area is pretty well oiled. Replacing the seal is definitely on the list of things to do.
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That National nitrile seal is the one that went bad on me due to warm oil. I would defiantly go to the trouble of locating the SKF C/R 19923 seal as it is not made of nitrile. As far as removing the old seal once you have the dampener pulley removed the easy way is to punch a small hole in the metal shell and screw a small slide hammer into it .A couple of slide knocks and it is out. A harbor Freight tool would work OK.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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