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[GMCnet] Dino Oil Break Down Temperature [message #189819] Sat, 10 November 2012 17:18 Go to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day,

When I read Paul's email below I was stunned too!

IIRC doesn't dino oil begin to breakdown / loose lubricating properties at around 260° F?

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Rob M.
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I put an Oil Temp gage on the Caddy in the extra port on the dual remote. Was stunned at how hot it was. over 300. But its been a
while,,,,still no dash,,,,,PL

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Re: [GMCnet] Dino Oil Break Down Temperature [message #189820 is a reply to message #189819] Sat, 10 November 2012 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,
What thread did you get the PL quote from?

Robert Mueller wrote on Sat, 10 November 2012 17:18

G'day,

When I read Paul's email below I was stunned too!

IIRC doesn't dino oil begin to breakdown / loose lubricating properties at around 260° F?

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder

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From: Paul Leavitt

I put an Oil Temp gage on the Caddy in the extra port on the dual remote. Was stunned at how hot it was. over 300. But its been a
while,,,,still no dash,,,,,PL

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Re: [GMCnet] Dino Oil Break Down Temperature [message #189821 is a reply to message #189820] Sat, 10 November 2012 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,

Re: [GMCnet] Fluctuating Oil Gauge Readings

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Rob M.
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Rob,
What thread did you get the PL quote from?

Larry :)

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Re: [GMCnet] Dino Oil Break Down Temperature [message #189836 is a reply to message #189819] Sat, 10 November 2012 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Sat, 10 November 2012 18:18

G'day,

When I read Paul's email below I was stunned too!

IIRC doesn't dino oil begin to breakdown / loose lubricating properties at around 260° F?

Regards,
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Leavitt

I put an Oil Temp gage on the Caddy in the extra port on the dual remote. Was stunned at how hot it was. over 300. But its been a while,,,,still no dash,,,,,PL

Rob,

No....
Standard dino oils are good to 305°F. But, 300°F is too high. If an oil molecule get heated to 305°F, it ceases to be lube oil - right then - there is no cooking time here. So, if he is seeing that, then places that are seeing oil primarily as a coolant - Like the undersides of piston crowns - will be destroying any lube oil that get there.

I couldn't find the PL posting.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Dino Oil Break Down Temperature [message #189842 is a reply to message #189836] Sat, 10 November 2012 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt,

Thanks, the temp I found through Google was all over the place and as low as 240°F. The 260° was what I recalled from my hot rodding
days in the 1960's. Perhaps it was correct for dino oil at that time, irrelevant at this point in time, however.

Paul's email was in: Re: [GMCnet] Fluctuating Oil Gauge Readings

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Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder

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Rob,

No....
Standard dino oils are good to 305°F. But, 300°F is too high. If an oil molecule get heated to 305°F, it ceases to be lube oil -
right then - there is no cooking time here. So, if he is seeing that, then places that are seeing oil primarily as a coolant - Like
the undersides of piston crowns - will be destroying any lube oil that get there.

I couldn't find the PL posting.

Matt

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Re: [GMCnet] Dino Oil Break Down Temperature [message #189844 is a reply to message #189821] Sat, 10 November 2012 19:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Rob.


Robert Mueller wrote on Sat, 10 November 2012 17:44

Larry,

Re: [GMCnet] Fluctuating Oil Gauge Readings

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Rob M.
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Rob,
What thread did you get the PL quote from?

Larry Smile

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Re: [GMCnet] Dino Oil Break Down Temperature [message #189877 is a reply to message #189842] Sun, 11 November 2012 13:01 Go to previous message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Sat, 10 November 2012 17:25

Matt,

Thanks, the temp I found through Google was all over the place and as low as 240°F. The 260° was what I recalled from my hot rodding
days in the 1960's. Perhaps it was correct for dino oil at that time, irrelevant at this point in time, however.

Paul's email was in: Re: [GMCnet] Fluctuating Oil Gauge Readings

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder

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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Matt Colie

Rob,

No....
Standard dino oils are good to 305°F. But, 300°F is too high. If an oil molecule get heated to 305°F, it ceases to be lube oil -
right then - there is no cooking time here. So, if he is seeing that, then places that are seeing oil primarily as a coolant - Like
the undersides of piston crowns - will be destroying any lube oil that get there.

I couldn't find the PL posting.

Matt

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Keep in mind the stock crank shaft seal is only rated to 250 degrees much higher and you will end up with a leaky seal. Which is why I used a higher temperature rated seal and an external oil cooler in series with the cooler in the Aluminum radiator.


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