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| Re: [GMCnet] 77 Royale [message #188713 is a reply to message #188682] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 07:04   |
jhbridges
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In 22 years of Gods Great Air Farce, mostly in tactical airbase units (lotsa generators) I don't think I ever saw a small Onan. Our little aircooled sets were little four cylinder opposed engine ones made by Chrysler Marine. Around 3KW, and they came in both 60 and 400 Hz models. I always wondered why the EAA folks never fitted one of those to an Experimental aiurplane - they would be a natural for the service. It may well be that they were only made under contract for the military. I've never seen a civilian one.
From: Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com>
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storm'n wrote on Mon, 29 October 2012 13:33
> Looks good for $5000. Anybody know the coach?
> Norm
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> http://florida.findanyrv.com/recreational-vehicles/1977-gmc-royale.html
From windows in the ONE picture, I can tell it is NOT a rear bath. From the year I'd say it is NOT a center kitchen. So, it most likely would be a rear twin.
The ad says "See pictures" ... as in more than one. I wonder were to find the others.
"6,000 watt Onan military spec generator." Is that better than the GM spec one in my coach? :roll:
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| Re: [GMCnet] 77 Royale [message #188719 is a reply to message #188682] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 08:43 |
Ray Erspamer
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It's either a center kitchen or the one with the kitchen behind the drivers
seat. Rear bed could be twins or the big one bed. I couldn't find the other
pictures either.
Ray
Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 8:18:06 PM
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storm'n wrote on Mon, 29 October 2012 13:33
> Looks good for $5000. Anybody know the coach?
> Norm
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> http://florida.findanyrv.com/recreational-vehicles/1977-gmc-royale.html
From windows in the ONE picture, I can tell it is NOT a rear bath. From the
year I'd say it is NOT a center kitchen. So, it most likely would be a rear
twin.
The ad says "See pictures" ... as in more than one. I wonder were to find the
others.
"6,000 watt Onan military spec generator." Is that better than the GM spec one
in my coach? :roll:
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(#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23'
Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] 77 Royale [message #188723 is a reply to message #188682] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 09:35 |
Carl S.
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| Mike Miller wrote on Mon, 29 October 2012 18:17 |
"6,000 watt Onan military spec generator." Is that better than the GM spec one in my coach? 
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Gotta be, Mike! 
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] 77 Royale [message #188725 is a reply to message #188722] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 09:49 |
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I sure hope looks are deceiving because it's tempting to jump on this one.
If I squint at the dash photo it looks like the radio was replaced. It looks
like the driver seat is a power seat. Original upholstery? Doesn't matter.
Butt ugly. So, would this have a love seat behind the driver seat to the
right of the kitchen counter? Might be something Stick should get. Can't
loose money at $5K -- maybe. Restriped so someone took care of it for a
while. Old wheels. Still, a bargain.
If I had sold some Apple stock when it hit $700 I would jump at this one.
Sadly, I held on to my stock.
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Ray Erspamer wrote:
> Not sure what condition the drive train would be in, but this looks like a
> heck
> of a good deal.
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> Ray
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> Ray & Lisa
> 78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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> From: Mike <carcruse@comcast.net>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Tue, October 30, 2012 9:00:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 77 Royale
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> storm'n wrote on Mon, 29 October 2012 16:33
>> Looks good for $5000. Anybody know the coach?
>> Norm
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> twin beds
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> http://sarasota.craigslist.org/rvs/3370275000.html
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| Re: [GMCnet] 77 Royale [message #188726 is a reply to message #188724] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 09:50 |
stick miller
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I'd be interested to see what you find. I had a rear twin '78 Royale and the kitchen counter extended to the back of the driver seat. I suppose this could have the "love seat" that Avions and Edgemontes and maybe some others have. It really looks good.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] 77 Royale [message #188728 is a reply to message #188726] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 09:54 |
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On closer look, I'm not sure this is a Royale. There seems to be an
inadequate amount of room for rear twins, refrigerator, and a side drive
bath with separate shower. Or am I all wet? This looks more like something
other than a Royale.
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Louisville, KY
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Stick Miller wrote:
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> I'd be interested to see what you find. I had a rear twin '78 Royale and the
> kitchen counter extended to the back of the driver seat. I suppose this could
> have the "love seat" that Avions and Edgemontes and maybe some others have. It
> really looks good.
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> Inquiring minds want to know.
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| Re: [GMCnet] 77 Royale [message #188731 is a reply to message #188728] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 10:13 |
Don A
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It has the rear twin, driver side bath, kitchen and small seat behind driver. So maybe a wet bath?
Interesting sink with three small ? on the right side. And looks like the counter extends with a narrow arm behind the small couch to the driver.
Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
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| Re: [GMCnet] 77 Royale [message #188732 is a reply to message #188731] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 10:20 |
Ray Erspamer
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This is definitely a dry bath from what I can tell, the refrig and wall to the
rear of it are identical to my center kitchen. It looks like the kitchen
cabinet was modified and a short love seat added. You can see the ceramic
counter top is extended behind the love seat. If there is a pantry/cabinet
across from the bathroom then this is definitely a Royale which had the kitchen
the full length from the refrigerator to the back of the drivers seat. I've
seen several of this model coach where the people removed the kitchen and
replaced it with a sofa, then removed the pantry/cabinet and turned it into a
center kitchen.
Byron..... GO FOR IT !!!
Ray
Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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Sent: Tue, October 30, 2012 10:13:43 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 77 Royale
It has the rear twin, driver side bath, kitchen and small seat behind driver.
So maybe a wet bath?
Interesting sink with three small ? on the right side. And looks like the
counter extends with a narrow arm behind the small couch to the driver.
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'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
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| Re: [GMCnet] 77 Royale [message #188737 is a reply to message #188732] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 11:06 |
stick miller
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| Ray Erspamer wrote on Tue, 30 October 2012 11:20 |
I've
seen several of this model coach where the people removed the kitchen and
replaced it with a sofa, then removed the pantry/cabinet and turned it into a
center kitchen.
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Now yer talkin! That would be a perfect floor plan for me except that I'd still need to cut a hole in something for my feet! The kitchen is a low, low priority for us as is storage. Moving the kitchen to the "bar" which was just aft of the door in our Royale, would be the perfect size. We don't plan on being that far away from a restaurant.
Of course, the furnace would be sacrificed but we don't participate in winter, anyway. On demand water heater would solve that problem.
Living space, however, is very important - a living room with a decent TV, a recliner or two and a comfortable sofa... and I don't need no stinkin' dinette!
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] 77 Royale [message #188742 is a reply to message #188739] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 11:34 |
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This coach could have been built "to order" since nearly every Coachmen was
"custom" in some way - aka non-standard.
Ray, I still don't see how there's be room for twins, side dry bath, and a
refrigerator in that length. Kitchen, side dry bath, and rear gaucho,
absolutely.
Didn't sell stock at the right time so can't do it. Every coach I've
purchased involved the sale of some stock. At one point I had a lot. Now I
don't.
Byron
Mike Miller wrote:
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> Ray Erspamer wrote on Tue, 30 October 2012 06:43
>> It's either a center kitchen or the one with the kitchen behind the drivers
>> seat. Rear bed could be twins or the big one bed. I couldn't find the other
>> pictures either.
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> I am fairly sure that the center kitchen was a "'78 only" model. But with
> Coachman you never know for sure. :roll:
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> A picture of the other side (or the insides) would tell. An 'extra' window
> just aft of the door should indicate a Center Kitchen.
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