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Transmission Magnet Mounting [message #188500] Sun, 28 October 2012 07:30 Go to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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Question for the engineers out there.
Will JB Weld hold a magnet to the inside wall of the Rockwell Transmission Pan successfully? Not much future in sucking magnet into the working parts of our TH425.
Thinking of attaching one inside pan before replacing pan on transmission. K&J Magnetics has a perfect high temperature magnet for the proposed application. Only problem is sticking magnet to inside of an aluminum pan. Second solution would be to install along outside of pan.
Tom, MS II
With new pan and SS transmission lines ready to go.


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Re: Transmission Magnet Mounting [message #188512 is a reply to message #188500] Sun, 28 October 2012 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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tphipps wrote on Sun, 28 October 2012 08:30

Question for the engineers out there.
Will JB Weld hold a magnet to the inside wall of the Rockwell Transmission Pan successfully? Not much future in sucking magnet into the working parts of our TH425.
Thinking of attaching one inside pan before replacing pan on transmission. K&J Magnetics has a perfect high temperature magnet for the proposed application. Only problem is sticking magnet to inside of an aluminum pan. Second solution would be to install along outside of pan.
Tom, MS II
With new pan and SS transmission lines ready to go.

Tom,

While I understand what you are trying to do, I would doubt it would be completely successful. There are two problems with bonding to aluminum. (I have had to do this on occasion.)

One is that any casting is porous and if it has ever been near oil of any kind, it will be a mother to bond to effectively. Even the mold release used in sand casting is enough to foul things up. New rolled sheet stock has to be cleaned and etched to get workable adhesion.

Another is the coefficient of expansion of aluminum is higher than most metals, this may cause the bond to the ceramic of the magnets to shear away a little at a time and finally fail.

I do have some options. If you look around, magnetic drain plugs are quite available and easy to make if you can't find one you like. Or, give Manny a call, and ask him if he thinks a loose magnet on the bottom of the pan will cause any problem. Another choice might be to use stainless safety wire to lash the magnet(s) to the filter pick-up tube.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Magnet Mounting [message #188522 is a reply to message #188512] Sun, 28 October 2012 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mannystrans is currently offline  mannystrans   United States
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If it's a flat magnet, you can stick it to the bottom of the filter or
side of the filter. Most stuff that wears out first is the friction
material and that isn't magnetic.
Remember all the fluid is filtered first before getting sucked by the pump.

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Manny Trovao
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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Magnet Mounting [message #188524 is a reply to message #188522] Sun, 28 October 2012 11:04 Go to previous message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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Thanks, Manny. Flat bar magnet to filter body, it is. Be easy to inspect and clean at that location.
Tim, MS II


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