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| Possible TOAD 95 Saturn SL2? [message #188455] |
Sat, 27 October 2012 18:05  |
kerry pinkerton
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Talked to a guy today about his TOAD. He bought it to tow from a guy who had already used it as a TOAD. It is a 95 SL2 with 125K miles, 1.6 dual overhead cam, auto, air, power windows, new alignment, good tires, good paint (other than some rock chips from the tow vehicle), nice interior. Everything works, never smoked in. It comes with a Blue Ox tow bar and is rigged and ready to tow including the light package and pigtail. No brake system. The guy has $3500 in it. I expect I can get it for a bit less.
I haven't seen it but had a nice conversation with the 65 year old second owner. He bought it to tow behind his new SOB but it is a bit too low for him to be able to get in and out of easily and he wants to get a small SUV to tow instead.
I've never owned a Saturn but driven and few and know they have a reputation for being pretty solid cars that should run for 2-300K miles.
My inclination is that this is a pretty decent option. The tow bar and installation is probably about $1000 plus the hassle of hooking up the lights. Thoughts on the suitability of this for a TOAD and the price?
Here is a link to the craigslist ad:
http://huntsville.craigslist.org/cto/3331818363.html
I was previously thinking about using my 83 S10 but I'd need either a tranny pump (near a grand) or a driveshaft disconnect. The problem with the disconnect is that the delivery time is 6-8 weeks plus. In addition, my S10 is fine for me but if the wife is going to ride/drive it, I'll have to invest some time and money in it also. The AC won't hold a charge.
We'd like to drive the new coach down to the Gulf coast before Thanksgiving.
Thoughts? Other options? Anyone got a TOAD they want to sell that is remotely near me and cheap but good?
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible TOAD 95 Saturn SL2? [message #188485 is a reply to message #188478] |
Sat, 27 October 2012 22:12  |
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USAussie
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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A,
Who's "you?"
Are we to assume it's "A"?
You would decide to keep adding refrigerant and not fix it?
I had a leaky A/C system, fixed it, added 3 cans of Dura Cool and the system worked great during this year's tour.
Regards,
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: A.
If you decide to just keep adding refrigerant instead of fixing the leak, yes. At 6 ounces per can, Duracool costs over $200 per
gallon. I can buy propane locally for about $4 per gallon. I can buy a dozen 8 oz bottles of propane from Amazon for about $12.
So butane is about $8.40 per gallon (and I could probably beat that price if I tried).
$3 worth of butane plus $2.50 worth of propane and I have a gallon of home-made refrigerant. Duracool is 36 times more expensive,
and doubtful that it "works" measurably better.
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| Re: Possible TOAD 95 Saturn SL2? [message #188487 is a reply to message #188455] |
Sat, 27 October 2012 22:29 |
Carl S.
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Location: Tucson, AZ.
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Back on track here...We used to own a Saturn SL-2 (a '97). It was a great car and the only reason we got rid of it was that it was a little small for my six foot frame. Other than that, it was comfortable, and got GREAT gas mileage. We sold it and replaced it with a bigger car (an '02 Chrysler 300-M Special). A few years later, we bought the GMC and were wishing we had kept the Saturn. They are towable 4 wheels down and are light, around 2500 lbs. The asking price may be a bit high, but it comes with a thousand plus dollars worth of towing equipment. We traded the Chrysler in for an '03 Chevy Tracker. Kind of a let down in terms of style and luxury, but much more versatile.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Possible TOAD 95 Saturn SL2? [message #188498 is a reply to message #188487] |
Sun, 28 October 2012 05:33 |
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mike miller
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| Carl S. wrote on Sat, 27 October 2012 20:29 |
... The asking price may be a bit high, but it comes with a thousand plus dollars worth of towing equipment. ...
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A thousand plus dollars worth of _INSTALLED_ towing equipment.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible TOAD 95 Saturn SL2? [message #188708 is a reply to message #188455] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 04:12 |
David Greenberg
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Registered: September 2010
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I towed Saturns for nearly 200k miles; an 87 SW2 & a 99 SW2. Best toads for
the money, by far. I don't think I spent more than $200-300 over the years
I owned them.
On Oct 27, 2012 7:05 PM, "Kerry Pinkerton" <Pinkertonk@mchsi.com> wrote:
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> Talked to a guy today about his TOAD. He bought it to tow from a guy who
> had already used it as a TOAD. It is a 95 SL2 with 125K miles, 1.6 dual
> overhead cam, auto, air, power windows, new alignment, good tires, good
> paint (other than some rock chips from the tow vehicle), nice interior.
> Everything works, never smoked in. It comes with a Blue Ox tow bar and is
> rigged and ready to tow including the light package and pigtail. No brake
> system. The guy has $3500 in it. I expect I can get it for a bit less.
>
> I haven't seen it but had a nice conversation with the 65 year old second
> owner. He bought it to tow behind his new SOB but it is a bit too low for
> him to be able to get in and out of easily and he wants to get a small SUV
> to tow instead.
>
> I've never owned a Saturn but driven and few and know they have a
> reputation for being pretty solid cars that should run for 2-300K miles.
>
> My inclination is that this is a pretty decent option. The tow bar and
> installation is probably about $1000 plus the hassle of hooking up the
> lights. Thoughts on the suitability of this for a TOAD and the price?
>
> Here is a link to the craigslist ad:
> http://huntsville.craigslist.org/cto/3331818363.html
>
> I was previously thinking about using my 83 S10 but I'd need either a
> tranny pump (near a grand) or a driveshaft disconnect. The problem with
> the disconnect is that the delivery time is 6-8 weeks plus. In addition,
> my S10 is fine for me but if the wife is going to ride/drive it, I'll have
> to invest some time and money in it also. The AC won't hold a charge.
>
> We'd like to drive the new coach down to the Gulf coast before
> Thanksgiving.
>
> Thoughts? Other options? Anyone got a TOAD they want to sell that is
> remotely near me and cheap but good?
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, Grand Old Dame, 403
>
> 76 Eleganza being rebodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: Possible TOAD 95 Saturn SL2? [message #188738 is a reply to message #188455] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 11:11 |
kerry pinkerton
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I bought the Saturn and towed it home behind my Pickup. Didn't even know it was there. Nice car, everything works, looks good, drives good, nice interior. Should do fine.
price was a bit high but having everything installed and working for towing was a big plus. I could do all that but I've got some other things I want to do right now and we'd like to use the coach a couple times before winter sets in.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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