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Wed, 24 October 2012 14:21  |
thorndike
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Folks,
There is an awful lot of good information on the gmcphotos.com site. Some of those presentations are priceless. Is it possible from the site to download the entire presentation in question, or do I need to download and print each individual page? I would like to be able to store these locally on my PC/tablet so I have them available wherever I go.
If there is a link to download the presentations and I have just missed it, my apologies!
Bob
Robert Peesel
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMCphotos website information [message #188109 is a reply to message #188107] |
Wed, 24 October 2012 14:36  |
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I do not think there is an easy way
a couple of months ago I proposed it would be better to post photos and
presentations on the gmcphoto store in pdf format.
than way the new "smart devices" like your tablet , and my iPod, could look
at them more easily.
here is an example I used
old link
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coolant-recovery/p45793-coolant-recovery-a-too.html
new link
http://goo.gl/4PZoS
was not too popular (yet, but it will come) only got 50 hits
guess it was the topic or the sender ;>)
gene
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Robert Peesel <thorndike@pldsllc.com>wrote:
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> Folks,
>
> There is an awful lot of good information on the gmcphotos.com site.
> Some of those presentations are priceless. Is it possible from the site
> to download the entire presentation in question, or do I need to download
> and print each individual page? I would like to be able to store these
> locally on my PC/tablet so I have them available wherever I go.
>
> If there is a link to download the presentations and I have just missed
> it, my apologies!
>
>
> Bob
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMCphotos website information [message #188119 is a reply to message #188109] |
Wed, 24 October 2012 16:15 |
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I really liked your idea. I love the stuff in PDF format I can easily store in my library on my iPad. I think it will eventually catch on too.
Gary
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On Oct 24, 2012, at 12:36 PM, gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> I do not think there is an easy way
> a couple of months ago I proposed it would be better to post photos and
> presentations on the gmcphoto store in pdf format.
>
> than way the new "smart devices" like your tablet , and my iPod, could look
> at them more easily.
> here is an example I used
> old link
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coolant-recovery/p45793-coolant-recovery-a-too.html
>
> new link
> http://goo.gl/4PZo
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> was not too popular (yet, but it will come) only got 50 hits
> guess it was the topic or the sender ;>)
>
> gene
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>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Robert Peesel <thorndike@pldsllc.com>wrote:
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>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> There is an awful lot of good information on the gmcphotos.com site.
>> Some of those presentations are priceless. Is it possible from the site
>> to download the entire presentation in question, or do I need to download
>> and print each individual page? I would like to be able to store these
>> locally on my PC/tablet so I have them available wherever I go.
>>
>> If there is a link to download the presentations and I have just missed
>> it, my apologies!
>>
>>
>> Bob
>> --
>> Robert Peesel
>>
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>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMCphotos website information [message #188132 is a reply to message #188125] |
Wed, 24 October 2012 19:43 |
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Gene,
Not sure what you mean by a 'sore point' but what you linked is exactly what I mean.
In a perfect world, I could take all these presentations with me on the road.
Bob
Robert Peesel
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMCphotos website information [message #188134 is a reply to message #188132] |
Wed, 24 October 2012 19:58 |
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I wonder how a shared Evernote notebook would work? I'll see if I can do a
test set up.
I certainly don't want to discourage anyone, even PowerPoint is better than
nothing.
A wiki would be good, so that anyone could edit and update it, but a little
hard to take on the road.
On Oct 24, 2012 5:43 PM, "Robert Peesel" <thorndike@pldsllc.com> wrote:
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> Gene,
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> Not sure what you mean by a 'sore point' but what you linked is exactly
> what I mean.
>
> In a perfect world, I could take all these presentations with me on the
> road.
>
> Bob
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMCphotos website information [message #188158 is a reply to message #188125] |
Wed, 24 October 2012 21:26 |
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Gene,
You do some really very nice presentation. It would be great to
migrate some of the pictures into a presentation like you do, but I
think that there are not enough hours in our day to come even close to
migrating pictures into albums format. Would be nice though.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Oct 24, 2012, at 7:11 PM, gene Fisher wrote:
> sorry Bob
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> seemed to have hit a sore point
> I do not know of a way to do what you asked
> except the brute force you described. -- like this--
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> http://goo.gl/HWtSF
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> sorry I caused a diversion of your topic
> gene
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMCphotos website information [message #188166 is a reply to message #188158] |
Wed, 24 October 2012 22:21 |
Mr ERFisher
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yes
I was thinking of future posts
might be better to do in pdf
gene
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
> Gene,
> You do some really very nice presentation. It would be great to
> migrate some of the pictures into a presentation like you do, but I
> think that there are not enough hours in our day to come even close to
> migrating pictures into albums format. Would be nice though.
>
> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> Michigan
>
> On Oct 24, 2012, at 7:11 PM, gene Fisher wrote:
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> > sorry Bob
> >
> > seemed to have hit a sore point
> > I do not know of a way to do what you asked
> > except the brute force you described. -- like this--
> >
> > http://goo.gl/HWtSF
> >
> > sorry I caused a diversion of your topic
> > gene
> >
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| [GMCnet] GMC Information (was GMCphotos website information) [message #188178 is a reply to message #188107] |
Thu, 25 October 2012 07:28 |
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<warning> This will be a bit long but, please, hand on until the end.
</warning>
All of the responses to the original thread have been included below except
one (to date).
I'm fully aware and fully appreciate the work of those that create and
submit excellent technical information that is made available via a variety
of websites. I also appreciate those individuals that get it to the web via
one means or another. It not only takes work but it also takes some funding,
in most cases, to acquire and maintain the domains and the web hosting. Each
person engaged in these pursuits is appreciated. Without this collective
effort (as well as the GMCNet/Forum) all owners may have found the struggle
of keeping the GMC alive more daunting than imagined.
Having said that, my original submission (below) was the result of a concern
I've had since 2007. My biggest concern is with Billy and Gene -- who will
pick up their task, which includes administrative access as well as
protection of the domain, etc. As I originally submitted, it seems that we
need to come up with a plan.
Also, in my original reply I mentioned that it would be good to have all of
this information cataloged so that any person could come along in five years
and find the wealth of information more easily than the asking redundant
questions of knowing exactly what to type in a search field.
Gene has posted a lot of great information. That he's made PDF versions of
slide shows is great. I've done the same as have others. (By the way,
there's more than PowerPoint for doing slideware. BTW2 PowerPoint was first
a Mac-only product when it first appeared in 1987). I salute the efforts of
those that take the time to get it right.
My chief concern is that this great wealth of information is widely
distributed on various sites. Everyone keeping track of each other's sites
and putting in links (that could change or go dead) isn't an ideal solution.
Sure, it builds the ego of the individuals but it doesn't solve the issue of
sustainability.
We need a web-based repository of this information that is managed by a
group of individuals who can cooperate and communicate effectively to see
that the open project stays viable. Then, comes the expense of maintenance.
Since GMCMHphotos, GMCMHregistry, etc. successfully receive donations it
would seem feasible that GMCMHrepository could live on in the same vein.
I'm willing to help. Any takers?
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Louisville, KY
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Please overlook the fact that I'm a former GMC owner and now drive a 36-foot
Airstream flat-nosed pusher built on a Freightliner chassis powered by a CAT
3126 with six-speed transmission by Allison getting 10.3 mpg while towing a
Honda Accord. :>)
Armand Minnie wrote:
> Byron, I agree. The GMC resources on the net are, as far as I know, each
> maintained by a single individual with no backup. I don't know what the answer
> is but I doubt that some central control would be very popular idea. I think a
> first step would be if each of the sites had an arrangement that would allow
> it to continue without the prime developer or maintainer.
>
> Armand Minnie
Sean F wrote:
> I do a lot of work with open-source software projects. Once a project
> reaches a certain critical mass of users, it's important to ensure
> that the project stays alive in the event of the departure of key
> developers and contributors. The usual way we deal with that is via
> the establishment of a foundation entrusted with the interests of the
> project.
>
> Maybe that model would work for the GMCNet community - instead of
> entrusting individuals with the task of posting and curating all of
> the information that's out there, maybe we should establish a GMCNet
> community foundation with people elected/appointed to the task, and
> procedures for handing the job over to the next person when the
> current maintainer is no longer able or willing to do so.
>
> --
> Sean (who would be lost without gmcmotorhome.info and GMCNet)
Byron Songer wrote:
> Interesting topic. This could be like "tire wars" in which there are two
> sides.
>
> I appreciate the fact that technical information can be distributed
> digitally. However, the weakness with the photos site is that there's no good
> way of cataloging or grouping the information. The superior way is to place
> the material by subject on a website where it could be accessed more
> easily.
>
> That's easier said than done even with the information that does
> exist "in the wild" (Gene understands that term).
>
> In fact, Gene wrote to a few of us asking if we'd take on that task. Honestly,
> I'm willing to participate in that activity but I am, in no way, willing to
> take it on as a single task. WS, ES, Gene's site, Billy's site, and a few
> others all have great information. My question is, however, who is going to
> take over the posting of this information after Billy and Gene are no longer
> able to do so. It would seem there needs to be a plan. For this reason I
> champion the clubs making it available and keeping it going with some
> perpetuity.
>
> Byron Songer
gene Fisher wrote:
> I do not think there is an easy way
> a couple of months ago I proposed it would be better to post photos and
> presentations on the gmcphoto store in pdf format.
>
> than way the new "smart devices" like your tablet , and my iPod, could look
> at them more easily.
> here is an example I used
> old link
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coolant-recovery/p45793-coolant-recovery-a-t
> oo.html
>
> new link
> http://goo.gl/4PZoS
>
> was not too popular (yet, but it will come) only got 50 hits
> guess it was the topic or the sender ;>)
>
> gene
Robert Peesel wrote:
> Folks,
>
> There is an awful lot of good information on the gmcphotos.com site. Some of
> those presentations are priceless. Is it possible from the site to download
> the entire presentation in question, or do I need to download and print each
> individual page? I would like to be able to store these locally on my
> PC/tablet so I have them available wherever I go.
>
> If there is a link to download the presentations and I have just missed it, my
> apologies!
>
> Bob
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Information (was GMCphotos website information) [message #188182 is a reply to message #188178] |
Thu, 25 October 2012 08:07 |
Sean
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On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Byron Songer
<bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:
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> We need a web-based repository of this information that is managed by a
> group of individuals who can cooperate and communicate effectively to see
> that the open project stays viable. Then, comes the expense of maintenance.
> Since GMCMHphotos, GMCMHregistry, etc. successfully receive donations it
> would seem feasible that GMCMHrepository could live on in the same vein.
>
> I'm willing to help. Any takers?
Count me in. I'm new to the GMC community and don't much GMC knowledge
of my own to contribute, but I'd love the chance to help improve
accessibility to the information that's out there. I can provide
hosting and technical support, and I can write code.
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Luna County, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Information (was GMCphotos website information) [message #188190 is a reply to message #188178] |
Thu, 25 October 2012 09:19 |
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| Byron Songer wrote on Thu, 25 October 2012 05:28 |
We need a web-based repository of this information that is managed by a
group of individuals who can cooperate and communicate effectively to see
that the open project stays viable. Then, comes the expense of maintenance.
Since GMCMHphotos, GMCMHregistry, etc. successfully receive donations it
would seem feasible that GMCMHrepository could live on in the same vein.
I'm willing to help. Any takers?
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I am also willing to help.
Armand Minnie
Marana, AZ
'76 Eleganza II TZE166V103202
visit my gmc blog
click here to visit gmcws.org
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Information (was GMCphotos website information) [message #188193 is a reply to message #188190] |
Thu, 25 October 2012 09:39 |
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CASH, dinero, etc. This will take good old cash to set-up and maintain. Anyone willing to step-up and collect initial cash donations. Set up as non-profit, so cash is tax deduction? Ideal would be a foundation , that would live past the initial enthusiasm.
Money men step forward. Idea men to the front.
Tom, MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Information (was GMCphotos website information) [message #188223 is a reply to message #188220] |
Thu, 25 October 2012 14:04 |
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Well, the motorcycle club I was in was a non profit educational org,
and they owned a house. And the educational part was more theory than
anything else. GMC is a non profit educational use, we are amassing
resources for the public good, and heck, not requiring payment.
Ron
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
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> On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Thomas Phipps wrote:
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>> CASH, dinero, etc. This will take good old cash to set-up and maintain. Anyone willing to step-up and collect initial cash donations. Set up as non-profit, so cash is tax deduction?
>
> The tax code does not allow this unless the non-profit organization is a charity or a religious group.
>
> Most, if not all, of the various GMC clubs are non-profit but donations to them are not tax deductible.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Information (was GMCphotos website information) [message #188227 is a reply to message #188223] |
Thu, 25 October 2012 14:53 |
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Clubs can be "non-profit" or "not for profit" but contributions to them are not tax deductible for the donor.
I can give you chapter and verse of the tax code if you need it.
Emery Stora
On Oct 25, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Ronald Pottol wrote:
> Well, the motorcycle club I was in was a non profit educational org,
> and they owned a house. And the educational part was more theory than
> anything else. GMC is a non profit educational use, we are amassing
> resources for the public good, and heck, not requiring payment.
>
> Ron
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Thomas Phipps wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CASH, dinero, etc. This will take good old cash to set-up and maintain. Anyone willing to step-up and collect initial cash donations. Set up as non-profit, so cash is tax deduction?
>>
>> The tax code does not allow this unless the non-profit organization is a charity or a religious group.
>>
>> Most, if not all, of the various GMC clubs are non-profit but donations to them are not tax deductible.
>>
>> Emery Stora
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Information (was GMCphotos website information) [message #188245 is a reply to message #188182] |
Thu, 25 October 2012 17:51 |
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On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Sean F <wsfulmer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Byron Songer
> <bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:
>>
>> We need a web-based repository of this information that is managed by a
>> group of individuals who can cooperate and communicate effectively to see
>> that the open project stays viable. Then, comes the expense of maintenance.
>> Since GMCMHphotos, GMCMHregistry, etc. successfully receive donations it
>> would seem feasible that GMCMHrepository could live on in the same vein.
>>
>> I'm willing to help. Any takers?
>
> Count me in. I'm new to the GMC community and don't much GMC knowledge
> of my own to contribute, but I'd love the chance to help improve
> accessibility to the information that's out there. I can provide
> hosting and technical support, and I can write code.
I need to step back from that commitment - my enthusiasm earlier this
morning has been tempered by the reality of my work schedule, and at
this time I don't see where I'll be able to devote time to this.
I do have some ideas for a couple of personal projects that the GMCNet
community might benefit from, but those are
I'll-work-on-them-when-I-can things, and I don't want to be in a
position where people are depending on them just yet.
Sorry :\
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Information (was GMCphotos website information) [message #188274 is a reply to message #188266] |
Thu, 25 October 2012 20:41 |
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Having some experience as a non-profit leader (34 years), I offer what I believe to be true from experience. A foundation, even if we could qualify, requires a filing of a Internal Revenue Service Form 990 every year. It's a pain, and a Certified Public Accounting firm will do it. About $1000 per year in these parts. It might be cheaper to get a Public Accountant to do it. It's amazing how often it seems the yearly deadlines come up. (It's a little easier nowadays, because there's a short form 990-N postcard return, a Form 990-EZ like the 1040 EZ "short form", only if you took in $50,000 or less that year, but still a pain. And, someone has to know that.) Two or three deadlines, really, first to ask for an extension before May 15, normally, and then the August 15 for another extension request and the the drop dead deadline of November 15.(Providing you have a calendar year fiscal year.) IRS is keeping better track these days on non-filers, and will revoke your status after three years non-filing . You can get back your status, just pay taxes on income in the years you are in arrears. (Please don't ask how I know this!) Emery Stora may well be right about the impossibility in the first place, I don't know. I think the present setup is great, though, like the GMC, it is idiosyncratic to some extent, but you can navigate it pretty easily after you get used to it, if you can keep from being distracted by the pretty pictures. Just what I think I know.
Carey from Ennis, Texas
78 Royale, 500 Cadillac, Rance Baxter EFI.
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Thu, 25 October 2012 21:20 |
k2gkk
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I just submitted the IRS 990-N for the ham radio club
of which I am the treasurer. It's a very simple deal.
The club is a non-profit Oklahoma corporation but
NOT charitable. Total income (dues for under 100
members) for a year is under $3,000 so no problem.
The standard "tax year" is from 1 July to 30 June.
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: chbryan@bigfoot.com
> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:41:39 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Information (was GMCphotos website information)
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> Having some experience as a non-profit leader (34 years), I offer what I believe to be true from experience. A foundation, even if we could qualify, requires a filing of a Internal Revenue Service Form 990 every year. It's a pain, and a Certified Public Accounting firm will do it. About $1000 per year in these parts. It might be cheaper to get a Public Accountant to do it. It's amazing how often it seems the yearly deadlines come up. (It's a little easier nowadays, because there's a short form 990-N postcard return, a Form 990-EZ like the 1040 EZ "short form", only if you took in $50,000 or less that year, but still a pain. And, someone has to know that.) Two or three deadlines, really, first to ask for an extension before May 15, normally, and then the August 15 for another extension request and the the drop dead deadline of November 15.(Providing you have a calendar year fiscal year.) IRS is keeping better track these days on non-filers, and will revoke your status aft
> er three years non-filing . You can get back your status, just pay taxes on income in the years you are in arrears. (Please don't ask how I know this!) Emery Stora may well be right about the impossibility in the first place, I don't know. I think the present setup is great, though, like the GMC, it is idiosyncratic to some extent, but you can navigate it pretty easily after you get used to it, if you can keep from being distracted by the pretty pictures. Just what I think I know.
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> Ennis, Texas
> 78 Royale, Center Kitchen, 500 Cadillac, Rance EFI, 3.42.
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